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Could a Texas Cityís Proposed Ordinance Ban Traditional Marriage Supporters From Local Govít Posts?
Yahoo News ^ | 25 Jul 2013 | Billy Hallowell

Posted on 07/25/2013 1:31:50 PM PDT by mandaladon

Proposed changes to a city ordinance in San Antonio, Texas, are capturing attention, mainly because of the addition of some controversial and vague language that critics believe will lead to a crackdown on free speech.

Gay rights activists and select officials in the city are looking to revamp the city's anti-discrimination ordinance to include "sexual orientation" and "sexual identity." So, what does this mean, exactly?

The new text, if adopted, could essentially ban citizens who have shown a bias in these areas from serving on commissions and in local government posts. Meaning: If you oppose homosexuality and have shown that opposition in "word or deed" that you could be precluded from holding these positions.

The goal with these inclusions is to protect the individuals who fall under these categories from discrimination. Already, San Antonio's policy protects people on the basis of race, color, national origin, religion, sex and age and "handicap" (this latter group is also being changed to "disability" in a draft version of the new ordinance). One News Now calls the new sexual orientation and gender identity language "unprecedented." And according to a report in Biz Pac Review, "The city is looking to update its anti-discrimination policies by adding sexual orientation and gender identity as protected categories, and plans to punish those who speak out against homosexuality."

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KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; texas
The questions that arise here are as follows: Are those who have vocally opposed gay marriage or homosexuality then not eligible to be appointed to government committees? Would a pastor, for instance, be banned for having Bible-based, theological views on these issues? What, exactly, does "bias" mean? What about a Catholic who has voiced support for the church's teachings? And these are only some of the many questions.................Hard to imagine this in Texas
1 posted on 07/25/2013 1:31:50 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon
Fascists on the march.
2 posted on 07/25/2013 1:33:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: mandaladon

Thank Mayor Julian Castro and some of his buddies on the Council for this pile of crap.


3 posted on 07/25/2013 1:35:21 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: mandaladon

The Castros are a poison, a cancer on the city of San Antonio. They need to be run out of office at the earliest opportunity and stonewalled at every turn until then.


4 posted on 07/25/2013 1:36:35 PM PDT by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: mandaladon

With all the Catholics there are in SA, no one will want to serve in these positions for fear of getting a major ass kicking-since stupid can’t be fixed, may as well just let it be and watch the fun-and the lawsuits...


5 posted on 07/25/2013 1:37:16 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Our country is disintegrating so rapidly it’s making my head swim.

Just when I thought I’d heard it all....something even more outrageous.

All we can do is sit by and watch it happen.


6 posted on 07/25/2013 1:38:02 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: mandaladon

Where are all those supposedly ‘conservative Hispanic Catholics’ in this state?......


7 posted on 07/25/2013 1:38:13 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.............


8 posted on 07/25/2013 1:38:59 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: jagusafr

From your keyboard to God’s ears that Hooligan Castro is about to meet his Waterloo...


9 posted on 07/25/2013 1:39:21 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: mandaladon

The bigger cities in Texas are where all the carpetbaggers and illegals are moving to hence they are turning more and more liberal at the city government level.


10 posted on 07/25/2013 1:42:46 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Red Badger

This has only just begun. They did get involved when the Mayor wanted to extend city bennies to the partners of homosexuals.


11 posted on 07/25/2013 1:43:24 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: mandaladon

If this happens then I may as well start a range war, because I won’t be a second class citizen to any man.


12 posted on 07/25/2013 1:48:34 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: mandaladon

I bet there are tons of supporting comments at Yahoo too


13 posted on 07/25/2013 1:50:15 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: mandaladon

Texas has big liberal cities like everywhere in this country.


14 posted on 07/25/2013 1:51:08 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: mandaladon; Yosemitest

This city is working with or partnering (Matching funds) with federal program that is propelling this. And it could also be a part of Agenda 21 (funding).

This will be coming to a town or city in your area soon.

It is not simply an attack on free speech, it is against someone who is a Christian and yet no other religion is not mentioned.

If a person is on record as saying homosexuality is a sin you can’t run for office and/ or you can be removed from office.

This is elevating homosexuals above heterosexuals so that they have special rights.


15 posted on 07/25/2013 1:54:01 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Army Air Corps

Were they successful?...........


16 posted on 07/25/2013 1:58:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: mandaladon
Hard to imagine this in Texas

Not in San Antonio, Austion and Dallas- each and every one a liberal run hellhole.

17 posted on 07/25/2013 2:04:01 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: GeronL
Texas has big liberal cities like everywhere in this country.

In particular San Antonio, like Austin, doesn't embrace real Texas values. San Antonio is overwhelmingly messkin and they're leftists, not Conservative. San Antonio, Austin and the Rio Grande Vally are stains on the Great State of Texas.

By the way, I always enjoy tweaking the messkins down there by pronouncing their county as Bex-are instead of the Spanish way. It makes me chuckle when they try to correct me. As far as I'm concerned, this is America, we speak English! And I make a point to let them know that I wont adopt their ways.


18 posted on 07/25/2013 2:07:38 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex

I need to find some conservatives in Austin who’d like to go out and mock leftists on a regular occasion.


19 posted on 07/25/2013 2:13:28 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: re_nortex

Yeah, that’s right. Attacking Mexican Catholics while ignoring the liberal northerners.

But I guess that would force you to admit you are wrong.


20 posted on 07/25/2013 2:14:21 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge
Attacking Mexican Catholics...

Most of them are CINOs. Sure, they love the pageantry and the visual trappings but don't really embrace the orthodoxy of the Church's teachings.

Their heritage is socialism and the cradle-to-grave nanny state. Just take a look at their home country, a third world cesspool with rampant corruption and a sky-high crime rate. And they bring those liberal "values" over the Rio Grande when they come here: 63% of Babies Aborted in Texas Are Black or Hispanic.

21 posted on 07/25/2013 2:22:26 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: GeronL; max americana
As far as the liberals down in Austin are concerned, I'll share this prayer from FReeper Patriot max americana:

Dear Lord, please allow the Civil War to start in order for me to save my nation. We cannot co-exist with liberals and they really need to go. Kindly arm me with weapons and firearms that will make short work of these Godless heathens called liberals. Kicking them in the face and smashing their heads in with a baseball bat is not enough. If you wish for your religion to prosper, then liberals have to go. They don’t believe in You anyway, so give me the strength to destroy our enemies.

Amen

22 posted on 07/25/2013 2:26:13 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: re_nortex

bump


23 posted on 07/25/2013 2:27:42 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: re_nortex

Someone in Austin needs to start a grocery delivery co-op that buys groceries from out of town, so as to deny Austin their sales taxes.


24 posted on 07/25/2013 2:29:12 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: re_nortex

“Most of them are CINOs.”

Are you a Catholic?


25 posted on 07/25/2013 2:33:08 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: mandaladon; All

I’m sorry if this has already been mentioned. I would argue the following constitutionally based point against such an ordinance. The Founding States made the Constitution’s Clause 3 of Article VI to protect people from not having to satisfy a religious test in order to be an officer of the federal government. So it seems reasonable that, since the 14th Amendment applied all constitutional priviliges and immunities, including Clause 3, to the states, that citizens cannot be banned from local government posts on the basis of their religious beliefs, traditional one man, one woman marriage reflecting Christian beliefs.

In fact, the Supreme Court possibly took Clause 3 into consideration when it found DOMA unconstitutional.


26 posted on 07/25/2013 2:37:56 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: JCBreckenridge
No...and I'm not a Mexican either. I'm an endangered species: Christian, Conservative, White, Male, Heterosexual, English-speaking only, Gun Owner and Southern.
27 posted on 07/25/2013 2:38:48 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: MarineBrat

I have a little flag thingy that has a big red stripe—and a big white stripe with a blue field to the left and a large white star— I love the reaction when I tell transplants that it is either the national flag of Chile —or the State flag of Texas I got it from a Chile Texan. some say that might start a range war if told in Texas— or Chile.


28 posted on 07/25/2013 3:10:48 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: re_nortex
I'm an endangered species: Christian, Conservative, White, Male, Heterosexual, English-speaking only, Gun Owner and Southern.

Sheeeeze.. Be careful my FRiend, there might be a bounty on your #ss.. :)

29 posted on 07/25/2013 3:22:50 PM PDT by carlo3b (Speechless in Sugar Land)
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To: re_nortex

What’s your thoughts on contraception?


30 posted on 07/25/2013 3:28:50 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge
What’s your thoughts on contraception?

I think it's sinful and, ergo, frankly wrong. It's not a issue for an individual to decide based on his "feelings" but is a matter covered without ambiguity by God's Eternal Law.

I am very traditional in the area of sex and human relationships. Of course, I oppose homosexuality, incest and pedophilia in all forms. But, perhaps contrary to some FReepers, my moral absolutism also doesn't tolerate adultery, cohabitation, divorce (see adultery) and pornography.

I hope that answers your question even at the risk of my moral Conservatism perhaps opening me to some ridicule, even here. By the way, I don't drink alcoholic beverages for pleasure -- not that there's anything wrong with it. That perhaps just gives you some additional insight on how I see things. I've been called a prude but I don't mind since the word stems from prudent and I think it wise to be prudent when it comes to God's Word.

31 posted on 07/25/2013 4:08:06 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: StonyBurk

32 posted on 07/25/2013 4:10:06 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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To: mandaladon

Not very tolerant, are they?


33 posted on 07/25/2013 4:13:48 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (If you vote for evil because you can't see evil, you ARE evil!)
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To: re_nortex

I say that prayer every night, even during Sundays mass.


34 posted on 07/25/2013 4:58:28 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: re_nortex

“I think it’s sinful and, ergo, frankly wrong. It’s not a issue for an individual to decide based on his “feelings” but is a matter covered without ambiguity by God’s Eternal Law”

It’s an important issue for Catholics in particular. We need all the allies we can get, there ARE faithful Catholics and writing off Catholics (hispanic or not), isn’t going to help us.

“That perhaps just gives you some additional insight on how I see things.”

Indeed it does. Thank you for indulging my curiousity.


35 posted on 07/25/2013 9:51:17 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge
Thank you for indulging my curiousity.

You're more than welcome and although we do have our differences, it was good to engage in a thoughtful conversation with you.

36 posted on 07/25/2013 10:24:13 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP - that's what I like about Texas)
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