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BREAKING Huge DHS Military Equipment Movement on Train in AZ March 2013 Martial Law!
Youtube ^ | 3/25/13 | TheCoop30301

Posted on 03/24/2013 10:04:05 PM PDT by Nachum

That's a lot of stuff.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: dhs; dhsconvoy; law; martial; martiallaw; military; militaryconvoy; train
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1 posted on 03/24/2013 10:04:05 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

From where to where?


2 posted on 03/24/2013 10:05:37 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

Good question.


3 posted on 03/24/2013 10:06:04 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Y’all ring the dinner bell.

Ready.


4 posted on 03/24/2013 10:08:42 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Nachum

These seem to be military, not DHS. Most DHS are painted black.


5 posted on 03/24/2013 10:10:42 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

bttt


6 posted on 03/24/2013 10:11:47 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: Nachum

Obama is just moving these in to enforce the border.

No one gets out of here alive.


7 posted on 03/24/2013 10:13:14 PM PDT by Last of the Mohicans
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To: Dead Corpse

Probably on the way to Bliss, Hood and Carson for units slated for Bed down.


8 posted on 03/24/2013 10:13:55 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: Nachum

Woah! That’s a crazy amount of military vehicles. ‘Probably enough to invade Mexico.


9 posted on 03/24/2013 10:14:35 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Army Air Corps; Nachum
FWIW....I read the comments. Someone said "They came through Southern California."
10 posted on 03/24/2013 10:15:21 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Nachum

I saw something like this prior to Iraq.

Are we getting ready to go into Syria maybe?


11 posted on 03/24/2013 10:16:10 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie
Are we getting ready to go into Syria maybe?

Mebbe. They are making a lot of noise about it.

12 posted on 03/24/2013 10:17:25 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

No comment on where the video was taken, what direction the train was headed or how the video makers came to be there....


13 posted on 03/24/2013 10:19:12 PM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Nachum

Not much point if Assad’s takin’ a dirt nap.


14 posted on 03/24/2013 10:19:32 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Baynative

There’s a FB link on the YouTube video.

“Look what we found out in the middle of the desert between Hackberry and Peach Springs, AZ”

Don’t know what direction it’s going, though...


15 posted on 03/24/2013 10:22:32 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Viennacon

Is that confirmed?


16 posted on 03/24/2013 10:23:45 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Nachum

Any proof it’s DHS stuff?


17 posted on 03/24/2013 10:23:48 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Nachum
As much as I distrust and despise Obunga, this looked like a lot of basic motor transport stuff. Lots of 4x4s etc. Sure, a few armored cars, but mostly trucks.

Fail to see any excitement quotient here........

18 posted on 03/24/2013 10:24:09 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: expat1000

‘Any proof it’s DHS stuff?’

Nope.


19 posted on 03/24/2013 10:24:27 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Many seemed to be black, or at least very dar..hard to definitely determine the color on this tablet. But, not all were tan.

At the 4 min mark, the amo boxes go by.


20 posted on 03/24/2013 10:24:31 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Nachum
Counted about 155 vehicles


21 posted on 03/24/2013 10:24:48 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: doorgunner69

“Fail to see any excitement quotient here........”

Although I would be pretty excited if they were headed to a public auction! I was just telling my son that years ago folks could buy old military Jeeps. But that I imagine they won’t be letting military Humvees join the civilian population. Too bad if I’m right.


22 posted on 03/24/2013 10:27:44 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Nachum

Take the tinfoil off. Those were MRAPs, MATVs, LVSs and 900 Series 5 ton cargo trucks. It looked to be about a Battalion’s worth of Motor Transport equipment. There is nothing that says when this train was spotted or where. From the foliage and the fact that this was BNASF train it was likely in Northwestern Az. The Army ships the equipment for visiting units to NTC(National Training Center) north of Barstow Ca by train. The Marine Corps is also holding their qtrly ITX exercise(formerly known as CAX and Mojave Viper) in Twentynine Palms Ca this month also. Though the Marine Corps supplys visiting Marine Units with vehicles they don’t do it for participating Army units. If the vehicles were going to NTC they were likely offloaded in Barstow. If they went to Twentynine Palms they were likely offloaded in Ludlow. These vehicles could also be on their way to the Marine Corps Logistics Base in Barstow for reset after returning from Afghanistan. The Marine Corps is also cutting it’s MRAP and MATV fleet due to weight concerns. MCLB Barstow is also a boneyard for Marine vehicles that have been removed from service.


23 posted on 03/24/2013 10:29:34 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: 21twelve

Heh - just found this:

Why doesn’t the U.S. government sell surplus vehicles to the public?

There’s a story that goes like this: Back in the 1950s, the government sold WWII surplus Jeeps to the public. Someone wrecked one and successfully sued the government for selling unsafe vehicles. The government then adopted a policy of not selling surplus vehicles to the public. We don’t know if this story is actually true, but it’s plausible. It is true that the government has had such a policy in place for a long time. They will cut vehicles up for scrap rather than sell them to the public.


24 posted on 03/24/2013 10:29:40 PM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: Nachum

Just moving equipment around to different locations. I see trains like that move through the yard every once in a while, usually during the spring and summer.


25 posted on 03/24/2013 10:31:03 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: KC Burke

Probably on the way to Bliss, Hood and Carson for units slated for Bed down.


What’s “Bed down”?


26 posted on 03/24/2013 10:32:14 PM PDT by laplata
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To: sean327

Absolutely correct! I was going to write a comment along those same lines before I read your very informative correct comment.


27 posted on 03/24/2013 10:32:37 PM PDT by TaMoDee ( Lassez les bons temps rouler dans les 2013! Geaux, Pack, Geaux!)
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To: Vince Ferrer

A few look like they are dark green, bit most are beige. Like you said DHS is either black or a dark gray.


28 posted on 03/24/2013 10:33:42 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Brad's Gramma

Yermo we see stuff like this all the time heading to Vegas maybe not that volume of stuff but still sizable


29 posted on 03/24/2013 10:33:44 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: JoeProBono

Those look like the MVAP’s.


30 posted on 03/24/2013 10:35:20 PM PDT by laplata
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To: 21twelve

If you’ve got the cash, you can go to Letterkenny in PA and buy real retired Humvees [and other military vehicles] to your heart’s content.


31 posted on 03/24/2013 10:36:00 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.....)
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To: laplata

MRAP’s


32 posted on 03/24/2013 10:36:35 PM PDT by laplata
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To: matt04

But they aren’t born black or gray.

They get new paint jobs here.


33 posted on 03/24/2013 10:36:59 PM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.....)
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To: 21twelve

I know many state/local police depts will sell old cruisers, etc. I have also heard of people buying retired Border Patrol SUVs and trucks. Those seem to consist of F series/Ram pickups and full size GM SUVs.


34 posted on 03/24/2013 10:40:13 PM PDT by matt04
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To: berdie

Not yet, but the reports are out there.


35 posted on 03/24/2013 10:40:47 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Nachum

This stuff is NOT DHS. The first 18 vehicles are the new J-LTV vehicles, and are combat-zone only, not really useful in civilian situations in CONUS. They only hold 4-5 personnel. The next bunch are medium trucks, mostly Deuce-and-a-halfs, some 5-ton and semi-tractors, and a line of dump trucks. DHS doesn’t use those. Then, further down the train, were HEMMT vehicles (the ones where there was only one per rail car). They had 5 axles, were articulated behind the first two axles, and had a large armature on the tail end. They are PLS trucks (Palletized loading system), and the articulation means they are Marine Corps vehicles (the army version isn’t articulated). This is the trans equipment for a Marine Brigade on its way probably to Irwin for training. The JLTV is new, so they probably are planning to do lots of convoy training using them.


36 posted on 03/24/2013 10:41:42 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: 21twelve

That only applied to the vietnam/cold-war era M151 “jeep” (not the WWII/Korea Willys-style), which had an early version of Independent suspension at all four wheels. It was notorious for rollovers, even in service, so the military decided not to release them to the public. They also don’t sell HMMWVs anymore either, at least not whole, though I am not sure of the reasoning behind that. However, you can still buy just about anything else, including tracked vehicles, civilian-origin stuff, Deuce and 5-ton trucks, and occasionally heavier stuff (I almost scored a HET tank transport once).


37 posted on 03/24/2013 10:47:02 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Little Pig

I misspelled “HEMTT”

To clarify, the HEMTTs in that video are Marine PLS trucks: The 5 axles and the armature on the back makes them PLS, and the articulation behind the front two axles makes them Marine Corps.


38 posted on 03/24/2013 10:49:39 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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To: Nachum
Dad used to be a switchman. Never talked to him much about his job, but I wonder... Since there's no caboose... If a shtf resistance man snuck (if that's a word) up while the train was waiting for the other train to pass and decoupled the last car or two or three... how long would it be before the RR noticed? Enough time to unload the cargo and drive it off? All they'd need is a portable ramp. And if not at this location, at any of a 1001 other sidings. And if not this cargo, any of a 1001 different types of military cargo...

Yeah, well, just wondering, that's all, as in For Educational Purposes and Speculation Only type wondering. Definitely not suggesting anyone actually do it. That would be illegal... Just wondering if a newly legislated class of po'd criminals could pull it off?

39 posted on 03/24/2013 10:56:17 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Little Pig

The JLTV hasn’t been fielded yet. The program is in the EMD stage of testing. The MATV mad by Oshkosh looks alot like what the JLTV will. I used to work on the JLTV program for BAE Systems. Our version didn’t make the cut after the TD pase of testing. You are correct about the HEMMT. The Marine Corps calls them LVSs. I was a 3521 Motor Transport Mech in my younger days as a Marine.


40 posted on 03/24/2013 11:03:59 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Vince Ferrer wrote: " These seem to be military, not DHS. Most DHS are painted black."

Vince thanks. That answers my question about why it was assumed that they were DHS and not military.


41 posted on 03/24/2013 11:08:16 PM PDT by bd476
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To: BurbankKarl; lainie

Did you get to see any of this when it arrived in Southern California?


42 posted on 03/24/2013 11:12:32 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Viennacon

That Assad is taking a dirt nap now might make us invade. They’re probably worried about all of the WMDs, including all the ones from Saddam.


43 posted on 03/24/2013 11:16:14 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Nachum

Gosh this is silly.


44 posted on 03/24/2013 11:25:16 PM PDT by ansel12 (" I would not be in the United States Senate if it wasnt for Sarah Palin " Cruz said.)
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To: 21twelve

They should make like the Swiss, and sell all surplus equipment to the public. Some Cantons even sell howitsers and other war arms.


45 posted on 03/24/2013 11:28:04 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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To: All

The video was taken here -

http://goo.gl/maps/Bfdfi

Making the direction from East to West and the rail track follows Route 66.

California, and Barstow, would be directly on this line.


46 posted on 03/24/2013 11:29:13 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: JoeProBono

“Counted about 155 vehicles “
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I remember 100+ car trainloads of this stuff before and after GW-1.
The Norfolk-Southern tracks ran beside my property.
I would not get too paranoid about trainloads of military vehicles, without knowing to and where from.


47 posted on 03/24/2013 11:29:36 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Brad's Gramma

From Fort Irwin perhaps?


48 posted on 03/24/2013 11:36:13 PM PDT by RC one (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: 21twelve

The govt sells a lot of used vehicles, including military ones.


49 posted on 03/24/2013 11:37:35 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: sean327

I’m pretty sure Oshkosh won the contract. The JLTV may not be fielded yet, but there are a bunch of them, of two different varieties, on that train. I recognize the big “cage” structure on the back end, and the shape of the windows on the side doors. The rear passenger doors of the Oshkosh truck have a really distinctive very tiny window. There are two different “noses” on the vehicles on that train, so they may be testing a couple of different versions of the Oshkosh truck.

Oshkosh’s own webpage shows at least three different noses for the JLTV, a high-nose, a medium-nose with really high fender arches, and a low-nose with the headlights almost at axle level, as well as an air-droppable version that looks completely different from everything.

I only know this because I really like the look of the “high-nose” version of Oshkosh’s truck, and would love one day to get my hands on one, even if it didn’t have the armored body. It reminds me of the old ‘70s GM truck line.


50 posted on 03/24/2013 11:55:36 PM PDT by Little Pig (Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici.)
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