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'Lincoln' Screenwriter: Obama Win a Rejection of 'Psychotic' Reagan Era Ideology
Newsbusters ^ | February 15, 2013 | Geoffrey Dickens

Posted on 02/15/2013 9:16:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Tony Kushner, the screenwriter behind the Oscar nominated movie 'Lincoln,' compared Barack Obama to the 16th president and called the defeat of Mitt Romney a "rejection" of the "Reagan era ideology" that leads to a "frightening" path of "psychotic individualism."

Appearing on Thursday's edition of PBS's Charlie Rose show the openly gay playwright called Obama's evolution on same-sex marriage "Lincolnian" and roasted Ronald Reagan, Romney and the Tea Party:

(VIDEO AT LINK)

TONY KUSHNER: So you have people like these Tea Party people protesting government and then asked if they really want to give up their Social Security payments. And they don't seem to know that, that is actually part of what government is. There's a rejection of the sort of basic idea of human community behind the Reagan, behind Reagan era ideology that is really frightening. And it leads us to terrible, terrible places.

And now that we're facing challenges like climate change that absolutely demand a global collective response, an organized global collective response. We have no hope for survival as a species if we continue down the path of this kind of psychotic individualism...I think we're beginning to see, in the last election we saw, I think, a real rejection. I mean what Romney basically had to offer was the same old trickle-down nonsense and people said I don't believe it any more.

After that rant, Kushner told Rose he was able to sing Obama's praises to his face, when he screened the movie for him: "I also got to say to him at the White House, I thought the way he handled same sex marriage was Lincolnian."

Kushner then continued the historic parallels when he revealed he and his Upper West Side friends woke up terrified on Election Day...

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TOPICS: History; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: climatechange; hollywood; homosexualagenda; lincoln; obama; reagan; romney; samesexmarriage; teaparty
Glad I haven't wasted my money on going to see that thing, not that I have any extra these days.
1 posted on 02/15/2013 9:16:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kushner talks like someone who has trouble with too many recreational drugs.


2 posted on 02/15/2013 9:19:33 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Really a good movie regardless of the views of the homosexual paranoid Kushner. Too bad the pervert gets his cut from the ticket sales, but oh well.
3 posted on 02/15/2013 9:25:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More convoluted thinking.


4 posted on 02/15/2013 9:25:43 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I wouldn’t go to see it if it was free. And what is it with these idiots thinking we live in a democracy? The Founding Fathers equated democracy with mob rule and wanted none of it.


5 posted on 02/15/2013 9:29:29 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny how liberals can only imagine “basic human community” in terms of government.

And I’m not surprised the screenwriter is a gay Obama fanboy. When I watched the movie it felt like one giant shout out to Obama.


6 posted on 02/15/2013 9:30:33 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The oft-made comparisons of the two presidents are relevant vis-a-vis our Constitution..

Lincoln: Lincoln defended his suspension of the writ of habeas corpus:

should everything fail because that one law "made in such extreme tenderness of the citizens' liberty that practically it relieves more of the guilty than of the innocent . . . [cannot] to a very limited extent be violated?" You want "the government itself go to pieces?"

Obama: the Constitution has to be ignored to save the Government.

I heard Kushner's comments and felt that "Lincoln" probably is just another example of the "nonpartisan" media that is used to influence apolitical voters.

7 posted on 02/15/2013 9:35:43 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Heard a clip of this clown on Rush today at lunch.

What a freaking spaz!

Conscience seared with a hot iron spastic.... Confused, bedeviled and nearly incoherent babble.


8 posted on 02/15/2013 9:37:03 PM PST by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whatta surprise—another Hollyweirdo spaz crawls out from under a rock.


9 posted on 02/15/2013 9:49:59 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The liberal mind..anyone who believes in limited Govt is a “Psycho” thats the way Liberals think, unless you love Communism they think your nuts..funny how these commie loves love Communism so much yet refuse to live in a Communist country..I hear Venezuela is beautiful this time of year, perhaps this schmuck should move there


10 posted on 02/15/2013 10:03:37 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I guess this Moonbat relishes the Carter era of Ideology.

Keep in mind that all writings are not worthy of FR.


11 posted on 02/15/2013 10:05:41 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anyone remember the Lincoln biography that ABC ran on the eve of the ‘96 elections?


12 posted on 02/15/2013 10:07:51 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

screenwriter = dolt


13 posted on 02/15/2013 10:11:26 PM PST by Nifster
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I mean what Romney basically had to offer was the same old trickle-down nonsense and people said I don't believe it any more.

The media is the originator of the "trickle down nonsense." Tax cuts that generate economic growth started with JFK in the modern era.

14 posted on 02/16/2013 12:08:44 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rush covered this today.

The Marxist nancy was pissing all over Individualism.

Not sure why Rush mentioned the punk’s alleged 140/”Mensa” IQ. That’s farm league.


15 posted on 02/16/2013 12:18:25 AM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Moonman62

Without concentrations of wealth there would be no funding to produce the idiot’s screenplays.


16 posted on 02/16/2013 12:25:47 AM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What is this fairy bitching about ? Willard's nomination was the repudiation of Reagan by the party establishment. When the party decides to run a non-Socialist against a regular Democrat Communist and the nation rejects them, get back to me.
17 posted on 02/16/2013 12:30:04 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those who live in a state of individual freedom and those who demand collective control cannot and will never be able to “coexist”. They must live in separate realms. And, no amount of alarmism regarding environmental or other global threat can bring justification for the demands of collectivists. Collectivists are a deadly threat to hope, freedom, and the very safety of mankind. I have come to believe that Lincoln’s vision of a unified nation cannot be sustained as long as collectivists continue to inflict their tyrannical acts on Americans. They must renounce the American system and set up their own collectivist state. Americans have suffered too much due to collectivists. The economic, social, and human damage the collectivists have caused cannot be repaired until they are no longer actively attacking America.


18 posted on 02/16/2013 2:36:22 AM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lol....as a southerner i was never tempted anyhow

Speilberg is largely a propagandist

Even does it a bit in Saving Private Ryan

Its his movie..but its bullshit

He’s a rich Trotskyite....one of many

One Mamet..a division of Speilbergs....Stones....Lees and De Palmas


19 posted on 02/16/2013 2:56:12 AM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You see, the “progressives” seem to think that if they just simply CALL something what they WANT it to be (for example: democracy) and WISH really, really hard; it will eventually “evolve” into what they want.


20 posted on 02/16/2013 3:34:42 AM PST by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sic Semper Tyrannis.
21 posted on 02/16/2013 3:57:50 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I think it helps when assessing Lincoln’s policy to put it in the context of what he was up against. A comparison of Lincoln’s treatment of suspected bridge burners in Maryland and Confederate treatment of suspected bridge burners in East Tennessee is very much in Lincoln’s favor.


22 posted on 02/16/2013 4:08:42 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A lot of people have mad a lot of money perpetuating the ridiculous Lincoln mythology.


23 posted on 02/16/2013 4:12:56 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Americans” like Tony Kushner are the reasons that sometimes I’d like to see a split.


24 posted on 02/16/2013 4:16:42 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Twinkie

A certain group proved quite effectively that if you repeat a lie often enough, it effectively becomes the Truth when a sufficient majority live by it.


25 posted on 02/16/2013 4:31:05 AM PST by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Moonman62

There was a time when the spigot was free to gush forth, but, once the hand of government grabbed hold of the handle, the economic flow was reduced to a stream...then a trickle...and now a drip.

If the libs/socialists desire to understand the historic rise to power of this country (economically and otherwise), they would realize that it happened sans the liberal/socialist agenda. They are the ones responsible for the strangulation of the American economy (including the continued use of such things as social security).

Get the libs/socialists out of the way, watch a country grow and blossom. Put libs in charge of “watering the garden” and you have...well, not enough water to make anything grow (trickle...trickle...trickle)


26 posted on 02/16/2013 4:44:53 AM PST by MarDav
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d rather deal with “psychotic individualism” than “bloodthirsty tyrannical governmental collectivism”.

Most liberals prefer the “bloodthirsty tyrannical governmental collectivism” because they think they are too smart to let it become that. They always think they are the smart ones who will reach Utopia with their idiot collectivist notions.


27 posted on 02/16/2013 5:36:06 AM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Flipping radio stations during breakfast today, happened upon some NPR show.

It’s a real circle-(blank) of mythologizing. Everything from a black discussion panel (with Cornel West) to a magazine piece on fact- checking.

To whit - they are developing an app into which you can stream a live speech, and they will decode it and send you their own version of whether it’s “true” or not (based on their own database).

So they will take any info outside their belief system, and automatically realign it for you.

Scary.


28 posted on 02/16/2013 5:41:05 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bread-and-circuses-give-me-your-money socialist. No thanks flim-flam films.

Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat

http://www.usdebtclock.org

An individual didn’t cause this financial destruction. It was a socialist/collectivist caused calamity.


29 posted on 02/16/2013 5:44:09 AM PST by PGalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kushner is a red-diaper baby and radical leftist fag. He hates everything good and decent and fair and honest and worthwhile. If I had known he wrote the screenplay I would never have seen the movie. From now on, I will vow never to see anything he “playwrites.” He’s disgusting, an embarrassment to humanity, a dung heap, and foul-mouth liar and the spawn of Satan.


30 posted on 02/16/2013 5:47:10 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Won’t ever see it. After Munich, I refuse to watch anything associated with Kushner.


31 posted on 02/16/2013 6:41:52 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
RE: " it helps when assessing Lincoln’s policy to put it in the context of what he was up against"

That's a good point and I agree.. and what we today are up against is Obama's drug-addled brain. :)

32 posted on 02/16/2013 8:53:09 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: iacovatx

Lincoln’s view of a unified nation, ‘the Union’, was driven by knowledge of foreign intentions.

Great Britain had 11,000 troops stationed on our northern border shortly after the War Between The States began. They were there because the Empire intended to invade when ‘the Union” disintergrated.

France moved on Mexico. Napoleon III conspired with Mexican Monarchists to install a King along with thousands of French troops. (See: Napoleon III entry, in Wikipedia.)

Great Britain’s and France’s military actions were both financed by the large private banks in those two countries, which had an interest in seeing that a central national bank, privately owned by themselves, was chartered again in the U.S.

By taking advantage of the war in the U.S.A., the Europeans hoped to move in, seize the tattered remains of the exhausted states, and set up colonies.

Their purpose was to enrich themselves at the expense of the general populations, not just of the U.S. but of Mexico, too.

That is exactly what today’s Globalists seek. International banking interests and international corporatists, they’re using radical left-wingers, “collectivists” if you will, in order to sunder the rights of free men and women here, in this country, and set up a One World Government with themselves in charge. These people, who presently own and control the privately held Federal Reserve Bank of the United States as well as the IMF, the International Bank of Settlements, and in addition have control of the United Nations, are hoping for success this time around.

It is the U.S.Constitution which stands in their way. Our Bill of Rights is a bulwark against serfdom, and they know it. Don’t fall for the talk about secession.

Those proposing succession are falling for the trap. As a Union we have greater strength than apart. Lincoln knew that and we should follow his lead.


33 posted on 02/16/2013 11:30:42 AM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Psychotic individualism =. Free


34 posted on 02/16/2013 1:43:14 PM PST by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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To: WashingtonSource

Not only that, but he is probably the only person in the world that watches the Today Show and says, “I wish they’d talk about New Your City more.”


35 posted on 02/16/2013 1:46:30 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SatinDoll

I greatly appreciated your informed and historically illuminating post. I have been trying to see a way to unify the nation but without shared values and interests, and with the acrimonious attacks on traditional values, it has been difficult to see America as one again. I reject flatly the idea of secession but it seems the Dem socialists have already seceded and have no more interest in the US system than to loot it. If the US were not history’s greatest golden goose, the left would have no interest in it whatsoever. I believe that is the primary reason the leftists remain Americans—but in name only.


36 posted on 02/16/2013 10:14:13 PM PST by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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Yes, Yankees Were “Far Too Ruthless”
Old Virginia Blog | 2/16/2013 | Richard Williams
Posted on 02/16/2013 9:48:32 AM PST by Davy Buck
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2989181/posts


37 posted on 02/23/2013 11:33:56 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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