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Team Arpaio: New Evidence Will Convince Greatest Skeptic Document Is 100% Forgery
BirtherReport.com ^ | January 27, 2013 | Unattributed/Mike Zullo

Posted on 01/27/2013 7:25:19 AM PST by Seizethecarp

Sheriff Joe Arpaio's lead Obama investigator Mike Zullo appeared on Carl Gallups' radio show Freedom Friday. Zullo repeated that the Obama investigation never stopped and that the only thing that stopped is the media coverage around the investigation....

Zullo says; "We are so convinced... let me go out on limb... I am going to put my reputation out there that we have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt--the higher standard--beyond a reasonable doubt that this document is an utter forgery."

Zullo also says; "the evidence we have acquired, new found evidence that we have never made public at any point in time, and we are not going to make public until we have the right opportunity, will convince even the greatest skeptic that this document is 100% a forgery."


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; joearpaio; mikezullo; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriffjoe
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1 posted on 01/27/2013 7:25:33 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

HUGH and SERIES!!!

This claim that the new previously unknown evidence “will convince even the greatest skeptic” seriously underestimates the ruling Obamunist elite’s sociopathic investment in protecting Barry.

Maybe if Zullo as a video confession from the person who actually created the White House BC forgery...maybe that would do it, but short of that, I expect a vicious partisan assault on Team Arpaio and their evidence.


2 posted on 01/27/2013 7:26:27 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp
I'm on board with the whole birther thing.

But they need to stop talking and they need to start showing.
I'm tired of hearing about stuff that will be utterly mind-blowing. It so rarely turns out to be much of anything.

3 posted on 01/27/2013 7:30:59 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: Seizethecarp
Bullshit!

It's too friggin' late.

The bastid's in and even if he killed someone on the front lawn .. no one would DO anything.

It's all over Joe ... unless you have a plan to walk into the White House with a million camera's and handcuffs.

4 posted on 01/27/2013 7:31:35 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Seizethecarp

If this evidence is as strong as Zullo claims, the tactic that “we are not going to make public until we have the right opportunity” begs the question as to what venue remains for Zullo and Arpaio to go to. The courts have erected a firewall as has Congress and no AZ state prosecutor has responded to Arpaio’s clear evidence of forgery so far.

The GOP-e is committed to running non-NBC candidates so no cooperation can be expected there.

The Boy Who Cried Wolf comes to mind with the series of claims of evidence that proves forgery and yet the MSM blanket of suppression continues especially at FOX. Arpaio still comes on FOX but is muzzled on the BC forgery evidence.


5 posted on 01/27/2013 7:32:41 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Try convincing ABC CBS NBC CNN MSNBC LA TIMES NY TIMES NEWSWEEK TIME ETC ETC ETC.


6 posted on 01/27/2013 7:33:19 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Seizethecarp

Has Zullo ever discussed the significance, if any, of having “Date Accepted” on Obama’s OLFBC and “Date Filed” on his COLB?


7 posted on 01/27/2013 7:34:23 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: Seizethecarp

“we are not going to make public until we have the right opportunity”

I would think that “before” the election primary would be the best. and even right before the general election.


8 posted on 01/27/2013 7:36:09 AM PST by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: Seizethecarp
Good Lord. Boy who called wolf is getting annoying. How many times are we going to have the “Big” announcement and evidence. Go away. You are making a mockery of conservatives.
9 posted on 01/27/2013 7:36:23 AM PST by napscoordinator (GOP Candidate 2020 - "Bloomberg 2020 - We vote for whatever crap the GOP puts in front of us.")
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To: null and void; LucyT; Red Steel; Flotsam_Jetsome

Arpaio ping...

Incoming!

...or not...


10 posted on 01/27/2013 7:39:46 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: VAFreedom

Yes, Sheriff Joe’s Posse needs to have their huge bowel movement, or get off the commode.


11 posted on 01/27/2013 7:42:10 AM PST by stickywillie (was that a glimmer of hope, or is it just that Dale Carnegie Course?)
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To: Seizethecarp

A ping??? Why would anyone venture a post on a thread where the exercise is to ridicule those who believe there is a criminal in the White Hut?


12 posted on 01/27/2013 7:50:21 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: napscoordinator

No, they are not making a mockery of conservatives. They are simply doing the work that the bogus mainstream media should have done. Everything about Obama is false, and it will never be too late to prove it. Whenever the truth comes out, Obama, his minions, and his ideas will be severely damaged.


13 posted on 01/27/2013 7:52:49 AM PST by Essie
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To: napscoordinator

Bingo.


14 posted on 01/27/2013 8:06:45 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: ClearCase_guy
I'm on board with the whole birther thing.

But they need to stop talking and they need to start showing. I'm tired of hearing about stuff that will be utterly mind-blowing. It so rarely turns out to be much of anything.


If they indeed had anything to show, they would. But instead we get a series of vague promises and stalls.

But if they really had any evidence at all, and they really cared about this issue, how on Earth could they possibly justify sitting on it until some unspecified later date?

They're trolling for money, or attention, or whatever. Taking advantage of well-meaning conservatives. Like the many "conservative" pundits who had all those "unskewed" polls showing how Obama was going to get sent packing and the only question was the size of Romney's landslide. They get fat telling us lies we want to hear.

That's why I'm not on board with the whole birther thing; it's a pretty simple con job.
15 posted on 01/27/2013 8:08:01 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: knarf

“It’s all over Joe ... unless you have a plan to walk into the White House with a million camera’s and handcuffs.”

Evidence aside, I suppose the ideal “right opportunity” would be to go through the motion of an arrest next time Barry steps foot in Maricopa County. Such would draw the attention of “a million camera’s”.


16 posted on 01/27/2013 8:13:20 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Seizethecarp; Absolutely Nobama; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Aurorales; autumnraine; azishot; ...
Constitutional Eligibility

17 posted on 01/27/2013 8:15:58 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable Tyranny)
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To: VAFreedom

“I would think that “before” the election primary would be the best. and even right before the general election.”

In my opinion as a (retired) Certified Fraud Examiner (CFE) Zullo made the case before the election “beyond a reasonable” doubt that the crime of forgery had been committed (sufficient for a grand jury indictment).

Arpaio has been very conservative with his claims.

First he claimed “probable cause” of forgery.

Second he claimed “beyond a reasonable doubt” there is forgery.

Third (currently being set up by Zullo using Carl Gallups to create media buzz for an impending revelation) Arpaio is now claiming “beyond ALL doubt” there was forgery.

As a true LEO channeling his inner “Joe Friday” Apaio has stuck to “just the facts, Ma’am” and NEVER claimed that Obama himself personally constructed the forged BC. Arpaio has never claimed evidence of that although the implications for Barry are obvious.

So even though is SEEMS like this new claim is just another in a long series of equally failed duds, I view each of the three above claims (assuming the third new claim is as conclusive as claimed) to have been proper and sequentially significant.

The problem has always been with the MSM and GOP-e and Congress and SCOTUS hiding under the covers from the political chaos domestically and internationally should Barry be revealed to have personally forged his ID documents regardless what he was hiding with that forgery (birth location?...paternity?)


18 posted on 01/27/2013 8:18:27 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I'm tired of hearing about stuff that will be utterly mind-blowing. It so rarely turns out to be much of anything.

Me too! This whole political thing is just BS and wait, and wait, and wait, nothing but wait.

19 posted on 01/27/2013 8:23:18 AM PST by Logical me
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To: knarf

And to quote the smartest woman in the world:

“What difference does it make?”


20 posted on 01/27/2013 8:33:01 AM PST by waredbird
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To: ClearCase_guy
...they need to stop talking and they need to start showing. I'm tired of hearing about stuff that will be utterly mind-blowing.

Amen. They need to stop with the teasers. Drop the bomb and let the pieces fall where they may.

21 posted on 01/27/2013 8:37:21 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Seizethecarp

this when the guy usually gets killed......ask Andrew, Marilyn and a dozen others who said they had something coming.......if you got it put it out or you will never live to tell...


22 posted on 01/27/2013 8:39:35 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: knarf
...a million camera's...

Death to all misplaced apostrophes!!

23 posted on 01/27/2013 8:40:23 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Forged documents are just part of the totalitarian MO. Who will act on it?


24 posted on 01/27/2013 8:46:20 AM PST by PGalt
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To: Windflier
does that include friggin' a's or friggin' as ?

/8^)

25 posted on 01/27/2013 8:46:51 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Seizethecarp; Jet Jaguar; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; null and void; maggief; Dog; BP2; Candor7; ..

ping!


26 posted on 01/27/2013 8:49:29 AM PST by bitt (The buck rolls downhill.)
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To: Seizethecarp
The Law of Nations or the Principles of Natural Law (1758)

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

Supreme Court cases that cite “natural born Citizen” as one born on U.S. soil to citizen parents:

The Venus, 12 U.S. 8 Cranch 253 253 (1814)

Vattel, who, though not very full to this point, is more explicit and more satisfactory on it than any other whose work has fallen into my hands, says: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or indigenes are those born in the country of parents who are citizens. Society not being able to subsist and to perpetuate itself but by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 3 Pet. 242 242 (1830)

Ann Scott was born in South Carolina before the American revolution, and her father adhered to the American cause and remained and was at his death a citizen of South Carolina. There is no dispute that his daughter Ann, at the time of the Revolution and afterwards, remained in South Carolina until December, 1782. Whether she was of age during this time does not appear. If she was, then her birth and residence might be deemed to constitute her by election a citizen of South Carolina. If she was not of age, then she might well be deemed under the circumstances of this case to hold the citizenship of her father, for children born in a country, continuing while under age in the family of the father, partake of his national character as a citizen of that country. Her citizenship, then, being prima facie established, and indeed this is admitted in the pleadings, has it ever been lost, or was it lost before the death of her father, so that the estate in question was, upon the descent cast, incapable of vesting in her? Upon the facts stated, it appears to us that it was not lost and that she was capable of taking it at the time of the descent cast.

Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857)

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As society cannot perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their parents, and succeed to all their rights.' Again: 'I say, to be of the country, it is necessary to be born of a person who is a citizen; for if he be born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country. . . .

Minor v. Happersett , 88 U.S. 162 (1875)

The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.

United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children, born in a country of parents who were its citizens, became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939),

Was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that a child born in the United States to naturalized parents on U.S. soil is a natural born citizen and that the child's natural born citizenship is not lost if the child is taken to and raised in the country of the parents' origin, provided that upon attaining the age of majority, the child elects to retain U.S. citizenship "and to return to the United States to assume its duties." Not only did the court rule that she did not lose her native born Citizenship but it upheld the lower courts decision that she is a "natural born Citizen of the United States" because she was born in the USA to two naturalized U.S. Citizens.

But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg 'solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship.' The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants [307 U.S. 325, 350] (Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U.S. 227 , 57 S.Ct. 461, 108 A.L.R. 1000), declared Miss Elg 'to be a natural born citizen of the United States' (99 F.2d 414) and we think that the decree should include the Secretary of State as well as the other defendants. The decree in that sense would in no way interfere with the exercise of the Secretary's discretion with respect to the issue of a passport but would simply preclude the denial of a passport on the sole ground that Miss Elg had lost her American citizenship."

The Supreme Court of the United States has never applied the term “natural born citizen” to any other category than “those born in the country of parents who are citizens thereof”.

The Biggest Cover-up in American History

27 posted on 01/27/2013 8:51:05 AM PST by Godebert (No Person Except a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN!)
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To: Seizethecarp

How is it possible to prove a paper document is forged by examining an electronic copy of it?


28 posted on 01/27/2013 8:51:23 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Tick tock.


29 posted on 01/27/2013 8:55:22 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The information on the document may be proven to be not so, regardless if the document is the original or a fac simile.


30 posted on 01/27/2013 8:56:51 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: waredbird
Actually what she said was, "What difference, at this point, does it make?" And that would be more applicable here. He's the sitting POTUS for a second time. Short of impeachment, successful quo warranto, or death, he ain't goin' anywhere.
31 posted on 01/27/2013 8:57:28 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Seizethecarp

If hussein showed up with the forgery pasted to his forehead at noon on CNN and admitted to everything, the sheeple would quote Hillary that is doesn’t matter. He’s been in office too long for congresissies to make him step down much less haul his sorry self off the Lakin’s old cell in Leavenworth.


32 posted on 01/27/2013 9:06:35 AM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: Seizethecarp

I’m a born skeptic.

There are folks out there, like Butterdezillion, who spend countless hours and her own money to get the word out that Obama is hiding something. Dr. Taitz spends hours flying around the country with her court cases, trying to bring down Obama and his enablers. While she has a paypal button, she also had related expenses with her court cases.

Zullo? What’s his motivation? At this point, I think it’s just money. What will bring the most money in? By prolonging the investigation, he gets to have meeting after meeting where folks are hit up for money to support the investigation. I’m skeptical enough to highly doubt that they are finding ANY new evidence. I think he’s all talk. He’s not presenting anything because he doesn’t HAVE anything. Other than talk. If they truly had SOMETHING, why didn’t they present it before the election? Mark my words, they will NEVER present anything, they will just keep promising, stringing folks along, taking their money. They are beyond reprehensible.


33 posted on 01/27/2013 9:09:50 AM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: Godebert

Bttt


34 posted on 01/27/2013 9:13:33 AM PST by Cottonbay
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To: going hot

True, but that’s not what they’ve claimed. They’ve claimed the document itself is a forgery. They’ve said nothing about the birth facts on the document being incorrect.

If Grandma lied about the birth facts and obtained a valid COLB, the original paper document isn’t a forgery.

If Hawaii knowingly fabricated an original paper document for him, the original is a forgery not the electronic copy.

If he changed the information in the electronic copy from what is on the original, then the electronic copy is a forgery.

If the electronic copy matches the original paper document, how is it possible to determine that the original is a forgery by examining the electronic copy?

It doesn’t compute for me, but then I never bought into the Kenyan-born theory. I think he propagated the Kenyan-born persona for personal gain ... until it became a liability.

He’s a liar. Always has been, always will be. He also lied about being a Christian for personal gain when it’s clear from his statements that he doesn’t have a personal relationship with Christ.


35 posted on 01/27/2013 9:14:19 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: waredbird
Actually she said "What difference at this point does it make?" And as far as this new "evidence" is concerned, "at this point" is correct.
36 posted on 01/27/2013 9:14:36 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: Seizethecarp
that we have evidence beyond a reasonable doubt—
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ok....So where is the evidence? Why the delay? ( tired sigh!)

37 posted on 01/27/2013 9:19:58 AM PST by wintertime
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To: BuckeyeTexan
He’s a liar. Always has been, always will be.

Pretty much sums it up.

Same can be said of his entire political party, and their supporters and enablers. Except of those who are simpy ignorant, and too lazy or comfortable to look into it.

38 posted on 01/27/2013 9:25:10 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

if election fraud and felony forgery can be shown, he will be impeached

otherwise, what’s the point of ‘laws’ if they are not applied equally to all?


39 posted on 01/27/2013 9:26:38 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: highball
That's why I'm not on board with the whole birther thing; it's a pretty simple con job.

If memory serves correctly, Arpaio first was advertised and promoted by the shill Hannity. Pink underwear. Arpaio is a cop, a sheriff that runs a huge jail. He's a jail administrator first and foremost and for that, he deserves little adoration, imo.

40 posted on 01/27/2013 9:33:09 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: knarf
"It's too friggin' late. The bastid's in and even if he killed someone on the front lawn .. no one would DO anything."

Right. It is no longer of consequence. We have passed the tipping point. Obama could haul Boehner and McConnell up to the White House and execute them on prime TV (I know, why would he bother) and it wouldn't matter. The only thing that will get Obama out of office prior to the end of his second term is the 82nd Airborne, if them.

41 posted on 01/27/2013 9:36:56 AM PST by Truth29
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To: All; null and void; LucyT; Red Steel

On the taped interview at about 9 minutes Carl Gallups asks Mike Zullo to validate Gallups previous dramatic pre-Christmas announcement that something big would imminently be revealed...but got derailed at the last minute and Zullo confirms that. IIRC a significant public official in a position to do something constitutionally was supposed to go public. It seems obvious that the public official backed out.

At around 14 minutes Zullo explains a possible reason for that public official clamming up and also Gen Powell’s sudden interest in denouncing GOP birthers as racists when he says he believes that the NSA is bugging his phone calls (Gallups basically says “Do ya think???).

Zullo explains his suspicion in so many words that NSA or some other agency (FBI/SS/DOH all regarding POTUS true identity as a matter of national security) are bugging him and that the “hugh and series” new evidence that the posse has now uncovered is so damaging that Powell has been enlisted to get in front of any impending revelations.

I posted this exact explanation for Powell’s behavior on FR at the time, i.e. Powell betrays an extreme fear in Barry’s camp on the issue and an attempt at preemption of a known threat. Sunday talk show time is priceless and everything Powell said was doubtless cleared with and prompted by Barry’s national security team.

Powell’s precious personally invested racial triumph of Barry’s election would be destroyed and Powell’s own betrayal of the Constitution would be revealed to be feckless and traitorous if Arpaio and Zullo succeeded in getting the MSM to seriously examine new evidence.

Rather than go with a big media event, like the one right before Breitbart died, or right before before “Where’s the BC” was released and the forgery revealed and OBL killed as a distraction, Arpaio and Zullo are keeping public announcement of the actual evidence quiet.

Even thought the domestic enemy knows that Arpaio has this evidence, their efforts to throttle public release and any public figure who dares to support it could be delayed or muted as long as no MSM cameras are covering it.

The fact that Zullo is only just now suspecting that “the NSA” is bugging him shows more than a little naivety regarding the domestic enemy and what it is capable of.


42 posted on 01/27/2013 9:36:56 AM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


43 posted on 01/27/2013 9:39:52 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Seizethecarp
... new found evidence that we have never made public ... and we are not going to make public until we have the right opportunity

And when might that be? We have Lance Armstrong coming clean on Oprah, we have the Notre Dame Manti Te'o revelations ... all of this coming to light in the last couple of weeks. How about revealing the biggest fraud in U.S. political history ... let's get that story out now.

44 posted on 01/27/2013 9:45:36 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Seizethecarp

These people suck even if they are right.

ANOTHER claim of huge evidence right around the corner?

Here’s the deal. Obama is ineligible and everyone knows that. No one with the power to do something is going to do anything. The riots would be off the charts.

Anybody remember these people’s last giant announcement about 2 months ago that was going to “change everything”?

And the one before that?

Pfffft.


45 posted on 01/27/2013 9:46:50 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: Seizethecarp

HUGH and SERIES!!!

This claim that the new previously unknown evidence “will convince even the greatest skeptic” seriously underestimates the ruling Obamunist elite’s sociopathic investment in protecting Barry.

Maybe if Zullo as a video confession from the person who actually created the White House BC forgery...maybe that would do it, but short of that, I expect a vicious partisan assault on Team Arpaio and their evidence.

The could have video of Hussein himself with a pair of scissors, a pot of paste and xerox machine forging the document himself and the MSM would proudly proclaim how damn clever he is in doing “state business”....


46 posted on 01/27/2013 9:49:50 AM PST by GraceG
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Think you’re looking at the issue through a mirror:

One CANNOT prove authenticity via an elctronic copy, but one CAN ABSOLUTELY prove forgery by examining such a copy, if the forged components can stand alone. There are a multitude of such elements in Obamination’s docs.


47 posted on 01/27/2013 9:50:34 AM PST by CanuckYank
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To: Seizethecarp

Thanks for the ping Seize and great update. :-)


48 posted on 01/27/2013 10:03:15 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: BuckeyeTexan

[ It doesn’t compute for me, but then I never bought into the Kenyan-born theory. I think he propagated the Kenyan-born persona for personal gain ... until it became a liability.

He’s a liar. Always has been, always will be. He also lied about being a Christian for personal gain when it’s clear from his statements that he doesn’t have a personal relationship with Christ. ]

I agree, I think he used the whole meme of him being “Kenyan born” as a meme when he ran for local offices in Illinois...

I also think he used his “Indonesian Citizen” status to get a sweetheart deal on his education as well.

He is a fraudster first and foremost.


49 posted on 01/27/2013 10:03:28 AM PST by GraceG
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We still want to hear the truth so all those after-birthers can choke on it.


50 posted on 01/27/2013 10:06:28 AM PST by Red Steel
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