Skip to comments.What's the Deal with the Jets and Tebow?
Posted on 11/11/2012 7:05:12 PM PST by SquarePants
I'm a Jets fan, and I have been one for almost 25 years now. I'm also a Tim Tebow fan, since his days playing for the Gators in my native Florida. He seems like a really quality guy, in pretty much every respect.
The only knock on Tebow is that he can't throw accurately. Maybe that will continue to be valid, or maybe not. In the meantime the Jets have Mark Sanchez, the worst QB in the league stinking up the place every week, and Rex Ryan continues to stand by his man.
I'm confused. They say Tebow can't throw well. He's a QB with 16 starts who completes 48% of his passes, but Ryan says Sanchez has "all the tools" to be a great NFL QB. Meanwhile Sanchez completes about... 48% of his passes.
Sanchez's defenders say he's "competent," while Tebow has shown he can be electric, and that he has the ability to transcend the game and take a team on his shoulders.
Tebow has shown the ability to play poorly, for sure. But watching Mark Sanchez play football is like watching someone fight Alzheimer's. It tears your heart out.
While Tebow sits the bench, Mark Sanchez has 26 turnovers in his last 12 games, and all Rex Ryan can says is Sanchez is the man "because I said so." God, why did you make me a Jet fan?
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The interceptions Sanchez throws kills me. When they’re behind, they have nothing to lose by trying Tebow. What’s he going to do? Prove them wrong. Show up Sanchez? You’re paying two QBs and one of them ain’t working you have nothing to lose trying the other.
Jets paid Sanchez all those multiple millions but he fails to wow them with his less than stellar play. Sometimes he plays fairly well but not lately. Give Tebow a chance - the guy is a proven winner.
Tebow couldn’t throw in college either, I guess, but he led the Gators to win after win after win.
Tebow knows how to win, no matter what it takes and I believe he’d help the Jets to win also if they would just play him.
He’s no Eli Manning but it seems obvious to me it’s all about religion.
That would be a problem for a Pro QB.
I am a Pats fan, and it isn’t that I want to see the Jets improve, but if I were in their place, I think they need to make the move away from Sanchez.
I simply don’t think he has it in him. There seems to be something emotionally fragile about him, even though he puts on a brave face. He seems to be a decent guy, not a douchebag, but I don’t think he is capable of carrying the team or even dragging it along. When the team has its pieces in place, he DOES seem competent, but when it doesn’t, he doesn’t rise up and pull his teammates along.
I am not a big believer in Tebow, but he would give the Jets something they seem to be sorely missing right now (from an outside observer) and that is...heart.
Again, I say this as someone who has taken his Patriots hat off, just my observations.
The Jets are just bad in all phases of the game, including coaching! They suck!
That is kind of the way I see it.
I want Tebow in KC.
BTW - they don't hate him because he is Christian. They hate him because he is a pro-life icon.
I will say this...I had to tip my hat to Rex Ryan recently.
His season is going up in flames, and he came in first place as an overrated coach in a NFLPA player poll, and he was able to make a joke about it saying that he finally beat the guy in second place...Bill Belichick.
I’ll say this for him-he seems a lot more interesting and engaging than Belichick, and would probably be fun to have a beer with.
New York is courting the Hispanic vote.
Elway trashed Tebow in public, refused to transfer Tebow to the team that wanted him and stuck him with a team that publicly stated he would never start.....Tebow is a man of quality and keeps on being an upstanding guy.
Elway is a jerk and deserves to be throttled in public.
Yep. They had Tebow playing “1 Run up the middle”. “2 Run up the middle”. “3 pass 3rd and long”. Just watching on TV I could guess 80% of plays. And he even brought them to the playoffs last year with the lousy, pathetic play calling.
It looks to me that coach Pete Carroll has got his offensive team clicking with quarterback Russell Wilson.
Tebow is valuable because his entire team, including the defense plays at a higher level when he is the game quarterback. It’s more like the team carries Tebow on their shoulders than the other way around. But Tebow is the catalyst.
Oh c’mon.... are you seriously suggesting the Jets aren’t playing Tebow because he’s an outspoken Christian. So let me get this straight. They trade for him... and then keep him on the bench because he’s a Christian. When they knew he was a Christian when they got him. Paying him a million or so a year in the process. Yeah. Makes perfect sense.
I agree with the other poster. Religion isn’t the factor here. Sanchez is already on shaky ground confidence-wise. Bringing in Tebow would damage Sanchez to the point they would have to admit he is a bust.
I don’t think they are ready to do that (a BIG step) but I think the dynamic is that, not religion.
I don’t understand how Sanchez is still the starter... is it all political?
you mean a NY liberal / liberal organization is doing / will do everything in their power to undermine the career / future of a G-d fearing Christian?
noooo... say it ain’t so...
I think it is simply a Rubicon the Jets don’t want to cross.
Once they do cross that river, Sanchez is ruined goods.
He will become one of those wraith-like quarterbacks that inhabit the seamy underworld of the NFL, drifting from team to team for years as a backup with the occasional burst of expectation when they are brought into a game for an injured or ineffective starting quarterback.
I just don’t think the Jets want to do that yet. They still have hope they won’t have to start the search for a franchise quarterback all over again.
Thanks. That makes sense.
I feel a song coming on ( mutatis mutandis. )
What, at TE? No way! Alex Tanney!
When Tebow came into the league, the “knock” on him wasn’t that he couldn’t throw accurately, but that his windup was too long and the ball would be stripped by defenses. Tebow threw for 70 percent in college, and nothing was wrong with his accuracy.
Yet bias against him has taken hold, and knuckle-head coaches like John Fox and Rex Ryan have treated him like he’s retarded. Tebow’s deep passes are better than most. Receivers seem to have trouble catching the left-handed spin, but that can be cured with practice. He’s had very little chance to work with the 1st team. All he needs is a chance to get on the field for awhile.
I was an avid Broncos fan for 35 years, and now I detest them. Some things are unforgivable, and running Tebow out of town is one of them.
I’m a Jets fan in waiting, but I’m afraid Sprano and Ryan are too dense to use him properly. If they saw the first iPhone they would have tried to use it as a hammer.
This history of the NFL is littered with failed QBs who had "all the tools" to be great. I forget the name of the NFL player who said, "Potential is a fancy french word for "aint accomplished s**t yet"."
There's no reason to excerpt this blog anyway.
Are you just wanting to get hits?
If I’m not mistaken, that was Bear Bryant who said, “Potential just means you ain’t done it yet,” or something along those lines.
Please, Friends, retire the idea that Tim Tebow should have switched to fullback. The only people who think that are the ones who never saw him run without the threat of pass. He is a massive target who (without threat of pass) has trouble getting to the line of scrimmage.
Could he play tight end? Probably, if he pursued it with determination. But why should he. He scored 32 touchdowns in 16 NFL starts. You can count on your fingers the guys who’ve done that. (Not Brady; not Manning; all of them high draft picks, carefully groomed, and allowed to throw INT after INT.) Threw for 19 TDs with just 9 picks. (Two of those picks were Hail Marys at the end of the game.) Over 5.5 percent of Tebow’s throws went for TDs, an outstanding ratio. Why not even higher? Because he was (with threat of pass) such a deadly runner in the red zone.
Tebow’s QB play didn’t win any beauty contests, but his play was extremely efficient. Protected the ball. Put to rest the nonsense that the Broncos had a strong defense and carried Tebow. Have you heard of Vonn Miller? Broncos drafted him with the second pick because they were SECOND WORST team at the end of 2010. (Why not WORST? Because Tebow started for “interim” head coach Studesville on the last game of the 2010 season and beat the Texans, 16 of 29 for 308 yards and a TD, plus a TD on the ground.) They were on their way to worst in 2011 when Tebow came in at half-time of Game 5 and helped the team turn itself around. His receivers Decker and Thomas (also in their second season and returning from injury) dropped 17 and 14 percent of their catchable passes. Bronco defense gave up THIRTY-FIVE points in first half of playoff loss to Patriots. THIRTY-FIVE. They couldn’t stop Gronk AND Aaron Hernandez. Tebow played with cracked ribs. Never given another chance to show what he could do (except playing quite well for the Patriots and Eagles in preseason). John Fox without Tebow or Manning is a dumpster fire. See Chicago.
People at Freep have strong minds and should resist the media narrative that this Christian never could play. If you didn’t see him play, try watching NFL Rewind. As a former, avid, 35-year Bronco fan it broke my heart that Elway ran Tebow out of town. I watched Elway’s rookie year, and Tim’s first starts were manifestly better. The NFL strangled its own Babe Ruth in the crib.
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