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What Will The End Of The United States Look Like ?
Alan Levy's Brain | 8/19/12 | Alan Levy

Posted on 08/19/2012 10:36:43 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama

As we stand at the edge of complete economic, political, and social disaster as a nation, I can't help but wonder what the end of the United States will look like. Will it look like Weimar Germany, with its hyperinflation and street battles between socialists (Yes, the Nazis were socialists) and communists ? Will it look like Greece, a bankrupted social democracy with absolutely no chance of ever righting the ship ? Will it look like the mindless mass murders that were the hallmarks of the French and Russian Revoulutions ?

An argument can be made for each of the examples I've listed above. With the Federal Reserve printing money like there's no tomorrow, the hyperinflation and resulting chaos of the Weimar Republic is certainly possible. With 100 trillion dollars in unpaid liabilities due to entitlements, the United States certainly has a chance to become Greece. With the constant attacks on Christianity and Judaism by the Anti-God Left, a French Revolution of sorts on American soil is certainly possible, and as Occupy Wall Street showed in its own incompetent way, a violent Russian Revolution of sorts on American soil may be in our not-so-distant future.

Or could we become post-apartheid South Africa, a relatively wealthy and modern country heading to utter collapse due to racial violence, an out of control leftist government, and a non-existent immigration policy ?

Before we get started, let me make something crystal clear. The fall of apartheid in South Africa was one of mankind's better moments. Apartheid was an inhuman, vile system. As Ayn Rand pointed out in the Virtue of Selfishness:

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"Racism is the lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism. It is the notion of ascribing moral, social or political significance to a man’s genetic lineage—the notion that a man’s intellectual and characterological traits are produced and transmitted by his internal body chemistry. Which means, in practice, that a man is to be judged, not by his own character and actions, but by the characters and actions of a collective of ancestors.

Racism claims that the content of a man’s mind (not his cognitive apparatus, but its content) is inherited; that a man’s convictions, values and character are determined before he is born, by physical factors beyond his control. This is the caveman’s version of the doctrine of innate ideas—or of inherited knowledge—which has been thoroughly refuted by philosophy and science. Racism is a doctrine of, by and for brutes. It is a barnyard or stock-farm version of collectivism, appropriate to a mentality that differentiates between various breeds of animals, but not between animals and men.

Like every form of determinism, racism invalidates the specific attribute which distinguishes man from all other living species: his rational faculty. Racism negates two aspects of man’s life: reason and choice, or mind and morality, replacing them with chemical predestination."

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Apartheid wasn't a creation of the Right. Like every other social illness of the 19th and 20th centuries, apartheid was a creation of the Left, much like segregation in the South.

As economist Thomas Hazlett wrote:

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"The now-defunct apartheid system of South Africa presented a fascinating instance of interest-group competition for political advantage. In light of the extreme human rights abuses stemming from apartheid, it is remarkable that so little attention has been paid to the economic foundations of that torturous social structure. The conventional view is that apartheid was devised by affluent whites to suppress poor blacks. In fact, the system sprang from class warfare and was largely the creation of white workers struggling against both the black majority and white capitalists. Apartheid was born in the political victory of radical white trade unions over both of their rivals. In short, this cruelly oppressive economic system was socialism with a racist face."

http://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Apartheid.html#abouttheauthor

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Apartheid was basically begun as a system to protect white union miners from competition from black non-union miners in the early 1900's. (In other words, they have the same racist origin that American unions do.) The National Party government that made apartheid the law of the land in South Africa was a socialist/fascist dictatorship. (One of the battle cries of the apartheid regime was "Workers of the world unite, fight for a white South Africa!")

After the election of Nelson Mandela (a murdering terrorist, despite the accolades heaped on him by the arrogant and lazy mainstream media) in 1994, South Africa began to crumble. Mandela's party, the African National Congress (ANC), wasn't at all interested in building the "Rainbow Nation" that he so waxed so eloquently about. It was a Marxist party hell bent on retribution and the redistribution of wealth. (As an aside note, the National Party ended up merging with the ANC. Collectivists of a feather always flock together.)

A new South African Constitution was written by the ANC which institutionalized the redistribution of wealth. Instead of being a charter of negative liberties like the US Constitution, the South African Constitution was intended to be a license for the South African government to do whatever it wanted for the "common good" of the people. For example, from the South African Constitution:

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"A person or community whose tenure of land is legally insecure as a result of past racially discriminatory laws or practices is entitled, to the extent provided by an Act of Parliament, either to tenure which is legally secure or to comparable redress.

A person or community dispossessed of property after 19 June 1913 as a result of past racially discriminatory laws or practices is entitled, to the extent provided by an Act of Parliament, either to restitution of that property or to equitable redress.

No provision of this section may impede the state from taking legislative and other measures to achieve land, water and related reform, in order to redress the results of past racial discrimination, provided that any departure from the provisions of this section is in accordance with the provisions of section 36(1)."

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In other words, property rights and indiviual sovereignty in South Africa no longer exist. For example, an Afrikaner farmer could lose his farm because of the actions of a long-dead distant relative. This is a complete and total breakdown of the civil society, since it punishes individuals for for the actions of others.

The South African Constitution also guarantees that all citizens have the right to housing, food, water, public assistance, a healthy environment, and secondary education, much like the old Soviet Constitution. Also like the old Soviet Constitution, it didn't produce a utopia, it produced a dystopia. No government is capable of such largesse, it simply isn't humanly possible, even for a relatively wealthy nation like South Africa. Anger and hatred became (particularly against the white Afrikaner minority) became the norm. Roving gangs of black youths, egged on by ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, began terrorizing Afrikaner farmers. The reasoning behind it was this: If the government can't give it to us fast enough, we'll simply take it because we have a right to it. (Since 1994, over 3000 Afrikaner farmers have been murdered. The vast majority of these crimes aren't investigated by police and are chalked up to common criminals, according to Genocide Watch.)

Poverty grew quickly in the post apatheid years. Shanty towns around major cities grew at an alarming rate. Crime quickly became uncontrollable. (The city of Johannesberg, once a major center of culture in the world, quickly became the world's most crime ridden city.) Unemployment became rampant. The immigration system broke down as refugees from Malawi, Mozambique, Nigeria, and Zimbabwe flooded over South Africa's borders, adding not only more crime and additional burden to the welfare state, but more racial tensions.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is where America is heading. Like South Africa, we have a government that is more interested in the redistribution of wealth than anything else. The attacks on ranchers in southern Arizona by rampaging illegal aliens from Mexico may not have had tragic the loss of life that the attacks on Afrikaner farms have had, but the situations are certainly similiar. We've already seen how the entitlement mentality creates poverty and crime in our inner cities. How much longer until that situation devolves into shanty towns ? As far as racial tensions go(especially ones that could lead to violence), they're only going to get worse with leftist race hustlers like Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson running amok.

It may have took us a hundred years to get here, but we don't have a hundred years to fix it, that's for sure.

God help us all.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: afikanergenocide; apartheid; cw2; cwii; freepereditorial; obama; racism; socialism; southafrica
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To: MestaMachine

Agreed, SA’s history is quite different from ours. I’m focusing more on its current path of collectivism and hate.

You bring up a great point about languages. SA has 11 official languages. That’s no way run a society.

Good to “see” you again! Long time, kid!


61 posted on 08/19/2012 12:19:35 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: dragnet2

Agreed.


62 posted on 08/19/2012 12:21:06 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Psalm 144

I think Putin is just about to change that....just a hunch....


63 posted on 08/19/2012 12:24:08 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Not really. He moved it from a near anarchy to an authoritarian model, which has been Russia’s norm. There is no comparison between Lenin’s Soviet Union and Putin’s Russian Federation.


64 posted on 08/19/2012 12:28:02 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Old Sarge

Yes, the black’s the world over have been doing this for ever. Africa is the only place in the world that has not done a damn thing to improve anything.


65 posted on 08/19/2012 12:29:10 PM PDT by tiger63
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To: Psalm 144

I don’t trust Putin as far as I can throw him, but he’s better than Stalin or Khruschev.


66 posted on 08/19/2012 12:33:22 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

I would suspect it will end in succession of various states and possibly followed by civil war. But what the hell would then happen about possible international conflict directed at us from abroad? It looks ugly to me.

The only salvation that I can see for the United States is a Switzerland type government of cantons. Each canton pretty much runs its own business and the Central Government takes care of international relations and defense. In this manner the Swiss have been able to blend German, Italian and French culture into a very functional nation. What I am really saying is state rights must be returned to the States and the Federal Government must be minimal.


67 posted on 08/19/2012 12:34:01 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

No argument there.


68 posted on 08/19/2012 12:35:00 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Psalm 144

The Sovs break up was a lot less painful then it should of been thanks to a whole bunch of hard work and money from the US and the West to make is so. When we fall, like Rome, there will be no one to hold back the darkness


69 posted on 08/19/2012 12:36:21 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: cpdiii

You are talking about an authentic federalism. The Civil War effectively killed that. I agree that it is the only way forward without mass slaughter or dissolution.


70 posted on 08/19/2012 12:37:18 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: cpdiii

I hope I don’t see any that in my lifetime and I hope my children won’t see it either.


71 posted on 08/19/2012 12:38:39 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: MNJohnnie

We are also a more volatile people than the essentially beaten down Soviets were. Our dissolution would more likely resemble that of Yugoslavia, writ very, very large.

Still, I prefer that to a totalitarian union.


72 posted on 08/19/2012 12:39:24 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans. Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

The biggest difference is that Putin and even all the Soviet leaders after Lenin have been Russian nationalists while 0bama is anti-American. This makes 0bama even more of a leftist-internationalist than Putin.


73 posted on 08/19/2012 12:54:29 PM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

I was not addressing the issues you raise. Just honestly commenting on the illegals living near me. But I thank you for not giving an emotional, tirade-ridden response.


74 posted on 08/19/2012 12:56:57 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: steve86

No problem! I save my tirdes for the racebaiters on the left.

:)


75 posted on 08/19/2012 12:59:07 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: reg45

“This makes 0bama even more of a leftist-internationalist than Putin.”

If that doesn’t keep you awake at night, nothing will.


76 posted on 08/19/2012 1:02:22 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Doomsday Clock is at 11:59:00......tick-tock, tick-tock, tick-tock.....)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“MAy start out like something similar but you have no idea of what singularities will occur that could totally change the direction of where events go.”

Well, there are 4 key variables. SCOTUS, Congress, The Senate and the Presidency.

Once all 4 are run by a single entity, there isn’t anything anyone can do. Even without a filibuster proof Senate, the rules would be changed.

At that point anyone going up against the government can and would be brought up on charges of sedition. Add in the masses from the left and we are talking French Revolution.

I talk to lib friends and they say it would never happen. Yet they are the ones running around with the “Bush = Hitler signs.”

It is scary.


77 posted on 08/19/2012 1:03:19 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Mike Darancette
"A check mark next to Obama’s name on Nov. 6."

Or a thumb up a butt On Nov. 6.

78 posted on 08/19/2012 1:04:01 PM PDT by Miss Behave (All ways, always.)
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To: dragnet2
all while the government gives them free medical care

Washington State dropped all those who couldn't prove legal residence from Basic Health five years ago. I understand the situation in California is different.

they break all the rules and laws

Some do. But I invite you to my neighborhood to elucidate just what rules and laws are being broken by the many illegals (other than residency). It isn't at all obvious to me and I know several personally. Again, I am commenting on my neighborhood and the surrounding areas.

79 posted on 08/19/2012 1:04:12 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: Absolutely Nobama
You know, I am taking a new cardiac medication which has the side effect of calming emotional over-responsiveness. Really seems to cut down on the hyperreactivity (described by a former FReeper) in some of my own posts and real life as well. I like it. Hope this effect continues.
80 posted on 08/19/2012 1:10:18 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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