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Any Vote That Isn't For Romney Is Effectively A Vote For Obama (pic)
The Looking Spoon ^ | The Looking Spoon

Posted on 07/16/2012 4:23:03 PM PDT by The Looking Spoon

I know Romney's not a hit with Freepers. Truth be told he was FAR from my first pick as well. BUT...

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: barackobama; defeatobama; fumr; mittromney; rino; rinoamore; vote; whenmittbotsattack
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To: Nik Naym
Miserably...but sadly, he'll continue to present his post as if he sits on a mountain top.

Big happenings comings...little minds stand in the way.

201 posted on 07/16/2012 7:42:37 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Are you behind a "Blade of Grass?")
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To: EternalVigilance
So, the question is, just how much destruction are you willing to heap on your children and grandchildren in the name of political expedience?

Have you asked the same question of yourself (with regard to not voting against obama)?
202 posted on 07/16/2012 7:47:39 PM PDT by Girlene (Chief AHat Roberts - should resign in disgrace.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I like the new tagline!


203 posted on 07/16/2012 7:50:16 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: IrishPennant

I suspect you didn’t get my point.


204 posted on 07/16/2012 7:50:35 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Girlene
I don't put my faith in men.

All I have to do is the right thing, and place my faith in God.

Romney ain't God.

Outcome is not in my hands.

/johnny

205 posted on 07/16/2012 7:50:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

....and how many millions more would have been lost or enslaved down the road?


206 posted on 07/16/2012 7:52:16 PM PDT by Girlene (Chief AHat Roberts - should resign in disgrace.)
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To: Girlene

But I don’t worship at the altar of political expediency.

You seem confused.

And by the way, not a single ballot in the country will have a spot to vote against anyone. You either vote FOR someone, or you don’t vote. This is a simple, indisputable fact.


207 posted on 07/16/2012 7:52:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you support.)
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To: Nik Naym
LOL! I hacked up a furball on that one.

Subtle, with a twist. Completely over the head of intended target.

/johnny

208 posted on 07/16/2012 7:52:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

and your brilliant, Nobel prize-deserving other option is what again?


209 posted on 07/16/2012 7:56:01 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: JRandomFreeper

I used to be very very good at that kind of thing.

Problem is that now that I am getting old I usually just run out of patience and yell what amounts to “get off my lawn!”

LOL


210 posted on 07/16/2012 7:56:34 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Girlene
You seem confused and disoriented.

Perhaps you should take a powder.

If the founders had held the line on slavery, millions would have been freed of the scourge of slavery. At least 600,000 wouldn't have died in bloody battle in harsh conditions.

I wouldn't be considering how to avoid slavery in 2012.

/johnny

211 posted on 07/16/2012 7:57:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Nik Naym

Ha! Now I’m jealous you didn’t call


212 posted on 07/16/2012 7:57:47 PM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: EternalVigilance
And by the way, not a single ballot in the country will have a spot to vote against anyone. You either vote FOR someone, or you don’t vote.

Amen, Brother FReeper.

213 posted on 07/16/2012 7:58:37 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
and your brilliant, Nobel prize-deserving other option is what again?

I'm not voting for the nightmare that you engineered with the GOP-e.

You can't shame me, you can't brow-beat me, you can't make me.

You guys need to get a clue about the consent of the governed in the governance thing.

/johnny

214 posted on 07/16/2012 8:00:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I have a right to complain regardless of who I vote for.

And I'm certain that you will.

BTW You're right I don't make the rules. But, I can pretty well guess the outcome from experience.

215 posted on 07/16/2012 8:01:59 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Nik Naym
You still got skills. Hat tip.

/johnny

216 posted on 07/16/2012 8:02:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: pfflier
The outcome was visible to a blind man when the GOP-e started slamming conservatives early in the primaries and then started cheating.

/johnny

217 posted on 07/16/2012 8:03:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Finny
The price of voting to prevent a popular mandate (the reason I'll be voting third party) is that I forfeit the chance to influence whether the Democrat or the Republican gets the White House. The price of voting "against" Obama ala ABO is that it is a vote for government tyranny at the head of the Republican party.

I agree that the real fight this year is in the Congressional races. However, I'm not going to roll the dice and give Obama the opportunity to rule via executive fiat at will - which he has demonstrated that he is more than willing to do. If we allow Obama the opportunity to rule when he has nothing left to lose, there will be no nation left at the time of the next mid-terms to save.

I agree to disagree with your perspective. I can't afford to take a chance on another Obama term. My life and that of the 38 employees that rely upon me is at stake.

218 posted on 07/16/2012 8:04:21 PM PDT by RobertClark (Be prepared, be polite, be professional and have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
Nobel prize-deserving

I don't accept honors from foreign potentates. I'm from Texas.

/johnny

219 posted on 07/16/2012 8:07:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: RobertClark
Understood, FRiend. I too, will not roll the dice that chances a landslide "popular mandate" for Romney that would endanger your employees and business much the same way that Obama would.

I am proud to FReep with an entrepreneur employer American patriot like you, however. Even if we disagree on the consequences of Romney.

220 posted on 07/16/2012 8:08:38 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
If the founders had held the line on slavery, millions would have been freed of the scourge of slavery. At least 600,000 wouldn't have died in bloody battle in harsh conditions.

Well, certainly, but that was not the choice. The choice was stick to the principle of no slavery and never form a country or give up on that principle for the time being to establish a United States, free from Britian. They chose the second.

I was referring to WWII with the "millions more lost or enslaved" comment.
221 posted on 07/16/2012 8:09:10 PM PDT by Girlene (pardon me, II've got the vapors....sigh)
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To: Girlene
The choice was stick to the principle of no slavery and never form a country or give up on that principle for the time being to establish a United States, free from Britian.

There were NO other choices whatsoever? Really?

Even a frigging cook can see some other options.

Try again.

/johnny

222 posted on 07/16/2012 8:12:01 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I was not referring to the election outcome.


223 posted on 07/16/2012 8:14:04 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Girlene
Don't ever expect me to approve of evil. Ever, even temporarily. Or endorse it. Ever. Not slavery, as still exists, or abortion.

Never, ever.

/johnny

224 posted on 07/16/2012 8:15:10 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Professional Engineer

“Enjoy that warm tingly feeling down your leg after voting for barky.”

***

Now you’re being childish.

Grow up.


225 posted on 07/16/2012 8:17:44 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: pfflier
Which outcome is that, pray tell?

/johnny

226 posted on 07/16/2012 8:18:24 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: The Looking Spoon

So if I don’t vote for 0bozo, is that a vote for Willard? Sheesh...go jump in a lake


227 posted on 07/16/2012 8:22:06 PM PDT by Principle Over Politics (Obamney or Rombama 2012. Two sides of the same coin. Pick your poisen!)
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To: EternalVigilance

lol, I’m not confused.

Here’s another example, just for kicks.

Several posters on this thread are claiming they won’t vote for Romney based on their principles....they cannot vote for someone they think is pro-choice, or somehing else. (I’m generalizing here). I call you guys the conscientious objectors in this battle. Fine. There will always be some. Buuuuuut, if we were all conscientious objectors we’d get creamed in each and every battle. Some of us have to get bloody and fight by actually voting...not “not voting”. It would help to have more of us than them (liberals) in this battle. We’ve got a long ways to go in this war, but first we have to win THIS battle.


228 posted on 07/16/2012 8:24:36 PM PDT by Girlene (pardon me, II've got the vapors....I might get confused...where is my powder...sigh)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The complaining one.


229 posted on 07/16/2012 8:29:15 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Girlene
So, girl, what are you guys going to call yourselves after the election?

Because you can't call yourself conservative if you are willing to approve of slavery (you did, upthread, to get what you wanted), or killing babies in the womb.

/johnny

230 posted on 07/16/2012 8:31:16 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: pfflier
I expect I'll be rubbing it in if Willard wins. Every time he goes liberal.

Get used to it.

/johnny

231 posted on 07/16/2012 8:32:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I rest my case.


232 posted on 07/16/2012 8:39:12 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: Repeat Offender

You nailed it in every way my FRiend. We also have to include Steve Schmidt who was too inept and unqualified to run a presidential campaign. I have great contempt for Steve Schmidt. I am sure the failures of McCain’s campaign came from Schmidt’s direction.


233 posted on 07/16/2012 8:39:24 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That’s what they did. The southern states refused to sign the declaration when it included Britian’s importating their slave trade as on ef the colonies’ grievances. So out it went.


234 posted on 07/16/2012 8:42:28 PM PDT by Girlene (pardon me, II've got the vapors....I might get confused...where is my powder...sigh)
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To: pfflier
We each make our bed, we must each lie in it.

Enjoy.

/johnny

235 posted on 07/16/2012 8:44:12 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Girlene
That was very close to being in the American English language.

Care for a do-over?

/johnny

236 posted on 07/16/2012 8:45:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m going to call myself tired trying to keep up with your logic.....changing my statements into something I never wrote....all while you throw in little insults. lol, you might not agree with me, but attributing me with things I never wrote doesn’t accomplish much.

I gotta hit the hay....later.


237 posted on 07/16/2012 8:50:39 PM PDT by Girlene (pardon me, II've got the vapors....I might get confused...where is my powder...sigh)
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To: Girlene
I quote:

"The choice was stick to the principle of no slavery and never form a country or give up on that principle"

That's approval of slavery. You can give up on whatever principles you claim to hold. I won't.

/johnny

238 posted on 07/16/2012 8:55:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Girlene

Dumb analogy. You obviously don’t know the difference between conscientious objectors and fighters who refuse to be quislings.


239 posted on 07/16/2012 8:57:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you support.)
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To: Finny
{^) There'll be all kinds of electoral vote count hooptidoodle in the response, which will appear to have merit, except that it ultimately boils down to the bitter truth: the guy who loses will have lost becaue not enough people voted for him. The loser's side, be it Obama's or Romney's, will squawk that "you didn't vote for my guy so it was the same as voting for the other guy," but ultimately, will boil down to, simply ... their loser didn't get enough votes.

Only need one side of the paper to figure that one out.

Purely pitiful, ain't it...? ;)

240 posted on 07/16/2012 10:03:33 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Finny
240 posts... and, to date, not even ONE self-righteously quivering little Mittens shill has so much as attempted to provide a simple, straightforward, mathematical answer to the following:

Demonstrate: How my not casting a vote for Mittens increases Obama's vote total from 1,000,000 to any other number.

God protect and keep this great nation from the unabashedly craven... and the profoundly innumerate.

241 posted on 07/16/2012 10:22:43 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Norm Lenhart
I wish everyone would post it EVERY TIME the ABO argument is made on every thread. Rub their freaking noses in the reality of the situation.

I've been thinking of asking them to post pictures of the Romney bumper stickers on their cars and trucks. I mean, they're really, really behind him all the way, right?

242 posted on 07/16/2012 10:29:42 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mason-dixon

Well said, thank you.


243 posted on 07/16/2012 11:09:04 PM PDT by The Looking Spoon
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To: svcw

Yes, the Founding Fathers dedicated this country to God and His glory - but do our current leaders carry on that dedication? Do we, the citizens of America? Do our values, or laws, and our behavior reflect the true Christian spirit?

God is always there. Christ is always there. The Holy Spirit is always there. They are immutable, ever faithful. But we, the children of God, are not.

Countries come and go. Christian countries come and go. That’s why I say that God does not care about America, per se. He cares about all His children, all His creation.

God knows what is best for each of us individually, and as nations. But Man has Free Will. And too often, that Free Will is exercised in the wrong direction.

America will not be saved by divine intervention - unless that intervention comes in the form of our actions as individual private citizens, and collectively in the public arena.


244 posted on 07/16/2012 11:09:14 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Kickass Conservative

So you think that NO abortion except for the health of the mother, which is what Reagan passed, is a pro-abortion law? I don’t.

But I do know that the way the libs in California interpreted the law Reagan signed made it seem that you could get an abortion for a hangnail. I also know that the rest of his life Ronald Reagan regretted giving them the opportunity to do that.

But Romney and his surrogates, trying to make him look better, have been saying Reagan was pro-abortion because Romney actually was pro-abortion. Romney said that govt. should not be able to interfere with a woman’s “right to abort her baby.” And he would do all he could to protect a woman’s “right to abort her baby.” Which translates into ‘all abortions should be legal if the mother wants to kill her baby.’ I have been unable to find the right to kill an innocent baby anywhere. It certainly is not one of the “rights” endowed by our creator.

Unlike Reagan’s law which still banned most abortions, Romney wanted to protect abortions and make it illegal for govt. to be able to stop them. Which made him an actual pro-abortion candidate. And unlike Reagan, Romney has never expressed deep regret for any of the laws and decisions he made which were far worse than the law Reagan deeply regretted passing.

Reagan never was pro-abortion he was always pro-life and became even more pro-life once he saw what the democrats did to the law he passed. Romney was never pro-life. He was pro-abortion from the start and has never shown any real regret over holding that position. Whether his pro-life epiphany, which came when he decided to run for the presidential nomination of a party which has not nominated a pro-choice person, is real or not, only Romney and God know for certain.

So please do everyone a favor and stop spreading Mitt’s lies.


245 posted on 07/17/2012 12:20:15 AM PDT by Waryone
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To: Norm Lenhart

Thank you! I did tweak it a little to make it fit my style a bit better but I’m not going to post it here because those same ABO who are calling you bad names would probably pee on themselves if they saw how I changed it.


246 posted on 07/17/2012 12:32:23 AM PDT by Waryone
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To: Waryone
>”So please do everyone a favor and stop spreading Mitt’s lies”<

Spare me the drama. I have no idea what the Romney Campaign is saying. I was just adding information to the Thread that was not there.

My point was simply that even those Politicians we have vigorously supported have made some bad policy decisions that still impact us today. Nobody is perfect, even Ronaldo Maximus.

The Primaries are over and there are two viable Candidates, one a Republican and one a Traitorous Commie Bastard. Given that choice it's the RINO for me. For you, there is no difference between the two. Whatever floats your boat.

My Vote either way will not make a difference since I live in California. My guy was Newt and he didn't make it. Now he is endorsing the Republican Candidate who happens to be Romney.

I'm not arguing the point. I'm sick of all the back and forth. Minds are made up and few will be swayed either way. We are down to Preaching to the Choir in a Church full of empty Pews.

247 posted on 07/17/2012 1:20:17 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (The only Fair Tax is a Flat Tax.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I know that Reagan was not perfect, and I understand that pointing out his imperfection was your point. But I also know that liberals love to tear down people’s opinions of conservatives and memories of Reagan can be tainted by people spreading untruths about him after he is no longer here to defend himself.

You may not know this but in the 2008 election, Romney started this lie that Reagan was pro-choice, and pro-abortion, just as he was. It was never true, but here you are having heard it somewhere, continuing to spread this falsehood. You would think that four years later, the lie would have played itself out.

I mention it because it is a falsehood and I know exactly where the lie originated. Now you know too. So at least one new person knows and should not need to spread that lie again.

Who you choose to vote for is your business, but the truth is everyone’s business, especially when we have two major league prevaricators running for the office of president at the same time.


248 posted on 07/17/2012 1:45:25 AM PDT by Waryone
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To: JRandomFreeper
Beautiful...

"I'm not voting...You guys need to get a clue about the consent of the governed"

249 posted on 07/17/2012 3:44:10 AM PDT by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Finny
Do your really believe Baraq and ValJ would play "let's make a deal" with Congress like BJ Clinton did?
250 posted on 07/17/2012 5:52:35 AM PDT by nascarnation
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