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WITNESS: ZIMMERMAN SHOT TRAYVON MARTIN IN SELF-DEFENSE
THE FREEDOM POST ^ | March 25, 2012 | Matthew Burke

Posted on 03/25/2012 3:33:02 PM PDT by SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

This news goes largely unreported, as race-hustling vultures, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, swoop onto the scene to exploit the tragic shooting for personal publicity and political gain, appointing themselves as judge and jury in the Trayvon Martin shooting case. President Obama is promoting a race war by inferring that Martin was practically his own son: "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon." He might as well as said, "When you kill Trayvon, you've killed my own son. If you support me, retaliate!"

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To: templarbeat
As you stated, he initiated the confrontation. No laws broken in that regard, is there?

The shooting seems to have been in response to an unwarranted assault upon the survivor. That doesn't break any laws that I'm aware of, given the current facts that are known.

Stating that Zimmerman was looking for trouble is silly. Of course he was “looking for trouble”, but not in the sense you are insinuating. Seems pretty obvious to me he was looking out for his neighborhood and spotted someone suspicious. It seems that the incident would have ended without any altercation if the deceased had not decided to attack Mr. Zimmerman. I draw that conclusion upon the currently known facts. Pretty straightforward.

You imply that the deceased would be within HIS rights to assault Mr. Zimmerman simply because the man was suspicious and followed him or even possibly confronted him. If Mr. Zimmerman did not pointedly threaten him or attack him first, then the deceased had NO right to assault him, period.

Considering the known facts, Mr. Zimmerman was well within his rights to use whatever means were at his disposal to repel the assaulter.

The bad news is, I'm sure the authorities will bow to the pressure from the professional race baiters and others who want to appease the black community and possibly railroad this man to a prison sentence, possibly undeserved.

Interesting times, indeed.

51 posted on 03/25/2012 5:34:26 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: templarbeat
Can you name one good and solid reason for Zimmerman to chase after him?

First of all, the "chase" term you use is one you're making up, not backed up by anything in the call transcripts. Zimmerman doesn't look to be in good enough physical shape to be outrunning a teenage athlete either. Martin looks like he's in good enough condition to run rings around Zimmerman, so thinking he was afraid of that guy "chasing" him seems fanciful.

As far a valid reason? Sure. When that suspicious stranger started running away, it made him look even more suspicious. Zimmerman most likely wanted the police to actually have a chance of finding Martin so they could talk to him. Zimmerman wanted to keep him in sight so he would know where to point the police to when they arrived.

52 posted on 03/25/2012 5:39:54 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
Overall, Mr. Zimmerman will be proven innocent unless he changes his testimony or forensics prove otherwise. As of now, everything is speculative.

'If indeed Zimmerman lost Martin (as the transcript of the phone call shows, and is backed up by Martin telling his girlfriend that he’s lost Zimmerman) then how does Zimmerman initiate violence?'

That's where the ongoing debate is interesting. Mr. Martin's girl friend said he chose not to run and was walking, and heard the 'why are you following me' verbage on the line, before it went dead.

Mr. Zimmerman said he went back to his truck in statements to the police.

Also, throw in the perception that whoever is on top of someone in a fight is 'wrong' or the 'attacker'. But, that simply is a position during a fight.

The clear problem is who started the altercation and from what transition is to that of self defense instead of manslaughter.

53 posted on 03/25/2012 5:40:33 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Wissa
“SANTORUM SHOULD HAVE KEPT HIS MOUTH SHUT”

I don't like Mitt but I could never vote for Rick. Ever.

Brokered Convention Please. I have a gut feeling GOP will out raise Obama bigtime.

54 posted on 03/25/2012 5:42:11 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: scooby321
Brokered Convention Please.

Yeah. Maybe the party will get behind letting McCain have a rematch. :)

55 posted on 03/25/2012 5:44:28 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny
Both Zimmerman and Martin lived in gated communities or something like that. That says a lot about this area. It's important to remember the context here. We're talking about a guy who was a neighborhood watchman.
57 posted on 03/25/2012 5:49:47 PM PDT by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: templarbeat
There's no doubt that this is a horrible tragedy, regardless of whether Zimmerman is charged with anything or not.

Even though Zimmerman called Sanford Police (not 911?) to report a "suspicious person", it appears that this kid was, at least initially, doing nothing wrong.

So Zimmerman's pursuit, and Treyvon Martin's reaction to it, set into motion a tragic chain of events. If Trayvon attacked Zimmerman, the young man made a fatal error, although one which probably shouldn't have cost him his life. Given the circumstances, I think many of us can agree that Trayvon's intent was probably not murderous.

But, in the face of such as assault, it appears that Zimmerman did have a right to defend himself, since a physical assault of unknown lethality was initiated against him.

IMHO, even though it's tragic all around, I think the police decision not to charge Zimmerman (at least with anything approaching murder) is the correct one.

Zimmerman is apparently highly distraught over the incident as well.

This is a cautionary tale, which parenthetically has no bearing on Florida's "stand your ground" law.

58 posted on 03/25/2012 5:51:11 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: Theoria

“The clear problem is who started the altercation”

To me this is what’s important.


60 posted on 03/25/2012 5:52:23 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

According to some sources, this is Mr. Martin.

61 posted on 03/25/2012 5:56:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: templarbeat

Never mind, the pic I posted turns out to be bogus.


62 posted on 03/25/2012 5:56:35 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Little Ray
Trayvon, on the other hand, is guilty of being both violent and stupid. He was the last person that could have prevented his death and didn’t chose to do so. He didn’t have to attack Zimmerman and he could have backed off at any time without getting shot.

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Please provide a link to a genuine PD released statement or tape that states that Martin attacked Zimmerman.

And, as for martin backing away...according to the PD released tape of Zimmerman's call --- he did --- he ran.

But, if you have a real source for your statement feel free to share it with us all.

63 posted on 03/25/2012 5:59:59 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Get back to me when you have proof Martin did (or that Zimmerman did not show his weapon prior to shooting the kid). The only witness stated he saw Martin on top of Zimmerman punching him, no one knows what precipatated that. And unfortunately the only word we have to go on is Zimmerman as the other party is dead.


64 posted on 03/25/2012 6:01:12 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Marxist agitators at work again.


65 posted on 03/25/2012 6:02:40 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

“If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon.”

And throw a baseball like me.


66 posted on 03/25/2012 6:04:39 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Pox

No one knows what happened after Zimmerman left his vehicle, what was said, whether the weapon was flashed prior to Martin getting shot. The only witness saw Martin on top of Zimmerman punching him, no one other then Zimmerman knows what happened before. So many on this site are taking this man’s word on the event and I’m not saying that things didn’t go down that way, only that the other available witness is now dead.


67 posted on 03/25/2012 6:07:22 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: templarbeat
Get back to me when you have proof Martin did (or that Zimmerman did not show his weapon prior to shooting the kid).

You think Martin was stupid enough to get into a physical fight with somebody that had a gun drawn? And then got on top of him and beat on Zimmerman's face for about a minute until Zimmerman shot him?

You must have a pretty low opinion of his intelligence.

68 posted on 03/25/2012 6:07:22 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny
President Obama is promoting a race war by inferring that Martin was practically his own son:

Implying.

69 posted on 03/25/2012 6:11:28 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: templarbeat

“In the past 11 years, George Zimmerman has made 46 calls reporting suspicious black people that he spotted in his neighborhood. “

http://trayvonmartinmurdercase.blogspot.com/2012/03/read-george-zimmerman-911-call-report.html


70 posted on 03/25/2012 6:11:53 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Wissa

I didn’t say he pointed it at him, but there is a huge question of how he approached Martin. And for the record, if someone pulls a gun on me, they will HAVE to use it on me. So yeah, I do think its possible that it could have happened that way. Bottom line is, could Zimmerman have a reason to replay the events a particular way? If so, then no one knows without an investigation.


71 posted on 03/25/2012 6:12:10 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: templarbeat

Listen to yourself.

“Get back to me when you have proof Zimmerman did not show his weapon prior to shooting the kid.”

You don’t understand the law. It’s not Zimmerman’s burden to prove he didn’t do something. It’s your burden to prove he did.

Did you go to public school or something?


72 posted on 03/25/2012 6:12:44 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: templarbeat
Zimmerman is certainly guilty according to your presumptions.
Maybe Zimmerman planned this for years, and finally got the black kid.
Heck, Zimmerman probably tried to rape the kid after he shot him too.
Next thing you know Martin was also Gay and Zimmerman knew it.

Maybe this, Maybe that, Maybe someone should interview all those strawman witnesses.

73 posted on 03/25/2012 6:14:03 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: backwoods-engineer

So be it. It’s what they want anyway.

Folks, I said this in another thread on this subject.

If Zimmerman gets indicted, then it is an indictment against self defense that will have far reaching ramifications for all of us.

We should not be expected to cower in our homes became the perpetually aggrieved segment of our society does not want to be eyeballed, even though they commit a disproportional amount of crime. So much that many Americans become instantly guarded whenever they seem youth in hoodies. Hoods have been historically worn since the advent of clothing to intentionally mask the identity of the person wearing it, and most easily associated with thieves, thugs, and assassins.

-Citizens are not obligated to cede their neighborhoods to criminal elements and have EVERY right to observe, report, FOLLOW, and even question the intent and activity of suspicious individuals. Keep in mind that the person being questioned has no obligation to answer, and indeed may become very irate if they perceive that the person questioning is not a recognized authority.

-Citizens are not obligated to listen dispatchers. They cannot give legal and lawful orders like police officers, and even in this circumstance, George Zimmerman was under NO legal obligation to listen to the orders of a police officers over the phone not to follow Martin. An officer on the phone would not have all the facts to determine if Zimmerman’s continued following of Martin would constitute a private peace disturbance, which is usually a face to face confrontation and involves some sort of “fighting words”. If he indeed said it, Zimmerman saying “who are you or what are you doing around here?” does not constitute fighting words. I bet Martin did not agree.

-Citizens are not obligated to render first aid to those that they wound during physical conflict. Police are.

I have also said that Zimmerman’s head wound is the golden wound and the phone call with him wailing for help is going to be a acquittal getter for a jury. He only needs one of them to feel the distraught human calling for assistance, and it’s an acquittal.

In closing, I would remind the readers that Joe Horn in Pasadena Texas was never indicted, and I don’t necessarily agree he should have gone outside with his gun. Anywho, the Black Pampers got thrown out of town on that one, and that will probably happen here as well.

If it can happen to George Zimmerman, it can happen to any of us.


74 posted on 03/25/2012 6:14:25 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (End the War On Drugs, Restore the Constitution.)
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To: sargon

You go from saying “if” Trayvon attacked him, to assuming it happened that way. No one knows, only other witness simply saw Martin on top of Zimmerman and nothing precipating those events (did Zimmerman flash his gun, did he try to apprehend him, what was said). Zimmerman has an agenda with his replaying of the events and the only other person there is dead. Not saying it didn’t happen that way, just that you’re making assumptions.


75 posted on 03/25/2012 6:16:58 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: sargon

You go from saying “if” Trayvon attacked him, to assuming it happened that way. No one knows, only other witness simply saw Martin on top of Zimmerman and nothing precipating those events (did Zimmerman flash his gun, did he try to apprehend him, what was said). Zimmerman has an agenda with his replaying of the events and the only other person there is dead. Not saying it didn’t happen that way, just that you’re making assumptions.


76 posted on 03/25/2012 6:16:58 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: templarbeat
So many on this site are taking this man’s word on the event and I’m not saying that things didn’t go down that way, only that the other available witness is now dead.

The police investigated the shooting. They talked to witnesses and did the whole crime scene investigation. They interrogated Zimmerman. The police are professionals at doing crime investigations. I'm not aware of ANY actual evidence that contradicts Zimmerman's version of events. Are you? And if not, why do act like you know something the police don't?

77 posted on 03/25/2012 6:17:11 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: templarbeat
And for the record, if someone pulls a gun on me, they will HAVE to use it on me.

Yeah. It wouldn't surprise me if you'd also punch the guy in the face for a minute until he got around to shooting you.

78 posted on 03/25/2012 6:22:10 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
How does Martin confront Zimmerman when he doesn’t know where Zimmerman is?
79 posted on 03/25/2012 6:22:33 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Wissa

Again, I’m not saying that things didn’t happen the way they did. Keep in mind they have no witness for that time frame other then Zimmerman, who was let go at the scene. I know without a shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman was in the wrong in the way he handled the situation and I also know the kid was innocent of any wrong doing. He had a grown man throwing baseless accusations, then get out of his car and pursue him; he was scared. If I was Martin’s parents, I would damn sure want a more thorough investigation. As you would, if your (innocent) minor child was in the same predicament. No one (not you, I or the police) know what happened in that time frame or who attacked who first. The only witness is Zimmerman and a kid that is dead. While the racial tensions are being stoked like crazy, cases like this should NEVER be an open and shut as the police made it.


80 posted on 03/25/2012 6:26:36 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: Oztrich Boy

Who says he doesn’t? The only thing we know are that Zimmerman doesn’t know where Martin is, and that Martin thinks he’s lost Zimmerman. That doesn’t mean Martin doesn’t know where Zimmerman is.


81 posted on 03/25/2012 6:27:58 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: templarbeat

Yes, many people are believing the man and what he said, not to mention the known witness statements, and are believing what he said was the truth. That makes sense as the facts that are known support his innocence.

On the flip side, you and others are posting speculation that paint him in a bad light, one way or another, and that pure speculation is not backed up by any known facts. That is uncalled for, IMO. Emotions get the better of some people and this case has been thrust upon Americans in a purely emotional manner by very familiar people. The reasons behind this push vary, but the story is told in different ways by different people for different reasons, none of them good, IMO.

Your posts have no basis in fact outside of pure speculation, and I’m posting in response to point that out. More facts may come out later that put Mr. Zimmerman in a bad light and could possibly cost him his freedom, and if he deserves it, so be it. My point is, at this time, from what we know, he deserves the benefit of the doubt and not wild speculation based upon emotions that have no basis in fact.


82 posted on 03/25/2012 6:29:07 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Wissa

To each their own. Pulling a gun on someone is an act of aggression, and I will respond in a similar fashion. Cowering in a ball does not guarantee you safety either, its a bad situation regardless.


83 posted on 03/25/2012 6:30:34 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: greenishness
I don't think the black community will take a "not guilty" verdict well.

What's wrong with the black community? They allow dozens of young black folks getting killed every weekend. Why is this killing so special.

84 posted on 03/25/2012 6:31:56 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: templarbeat
While the racial tensions are being stoked like crazy, cases like this should NEVER be an open and shut as the police made it.

The police DID investigate it. They're prohibited by law from making an arrest on somebody that shot somebody in self defense. The police say the evidence they had was consistent with that determination of self defense. Since there isn't some magical time machine available to go back and make a video of what happened, what are you suggesting that the police should have done?

85 posted on 03/25/2012 6:34:08 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: Pox

I’m not posting speculation as much as I’m trying to remind you that there are NO witnesses for the time frame between Zimmerman exiting the vehicle and the witness seeing Martin punching him. Zimmerman is the only person relaying information in between those two events, Martin is dead. If I’m Martin’s parents, damn right I want a more thorough investigation. Martin was innocent and minding his own business and Zimmerman threw out baseless accusations and tried to pursue, now the kid is dead. One last time, not saying that the facts aren’t as described, simply that no one (cops, you or I) knows other then Zimmerman.


86 posted on 03/25/2012 6:37:36 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: dragnet2
Is that Mr. Martin on right?

NO and the Admin Mods have requested pictures of Trayvon Martin have a live link to the original source, not an image host service.

87 posted on 03/25/2012 6:40:47 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: templarbeat
Pulling a gun on someone is an act of aggression,

Pulling a gun on somebody after they've got you down on the ground and are punching you in the face for a minute is an act of selfdefense. Logic points to that being the more likely reality than that Martin decided to physically tangle with somebody that already had a gun drawn.

88 posted on 03/25/2012 6:40:58 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: templarbeat
Again, I’m not saying that things didn’t happen the way they did. Keep in mind they have no witness for that time frame other then Zimmerman, who was let go at the scene.

Why do you want to make things up? If you'd read the police report, you'd see that he was transported to the police department station. NOT released at the scene.

89 posted on 03/25/2012 6:50:40 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: Wissa

You don’t know if the gun was brandished at that point or not and you do not know if Martin became physically aggressive first. No witness verified what happened before Martin being seen punching Zimmerman, you’re going solely on Zimmerman’s word. Logic does not play into this, you’re speculating. And Zimmerman scaring the hell out of the kid because he was a vigilante, legal or not, was way out of line and contributed to the tense situation. I repeat, I am not saying things did not happen this way. The only thing I would say is that if a 17 year old child was shot dead after walking down the street to the convenience store, I can empathize with the parents wanting a thorough investigation. No one knows and what you believe was likely to happen does not imply facts.


90 posted on 03/25/2012 6:53:08 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: Wissa

Ignore that youre calling Zimmerman’s recollection of events factual (have repeatedly) and ignore that the man just may have an agenda. Ignore that he harrassed and scared a 17 year old kid, based not on a crime committed, but because the kid was black. Ignore that Martin’s family has every right to demand a thorough investigation. But you definitely are quick to tell me I’m “making things up” when I state he was released at the scene instead of after questioning, which was an error on me. So I accept that, can you accept that no one knows what happened and Zimmerman acted improperly (even if legal).


91 posted on 03/25/2012 7:04:14 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: templarbeat
The only thing I would say is that if a 17 year old child was shot dead after walking down the street to the convenience store, I can empathize with the parents wanting a thorough investigation

On THAT point I can completely agree with you.

In this country though, we don't leave it up to the relatives of a homicide victim to determine whether a thorough investigation was completed, based on whether or not they are happy with the outcome of that investigation. I haven't seen any indication that any new evidence has come out that would point to the police making an error in the decision they made at that time, and with the amount of publicity this case had received, I feel pretty confident that if there WAS any contradictory evidence we'd be hearing about it.

92 posted on 03/25/2012 7:08:03 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: templarbeat
-- Keep in mind they have no witness for that time frame other then Zimmerman, who was let go at the scene. --

Not sure what time frame you're referring to, but Zimmerman was not let go from the scene. He was handcuffed and taken to the police station. His clothing and his weapon were taken into evidence, and are now in evidence.

-- No one (not you, I or the police) know what happened in that time frame or who attacked who first. The only witness is Zimmerman and a kid that is dead. --

We have Zimmerman on tape, and also have neighbors' recorded calls. There are also a reasonable set of inferences about behavior that can be drawn. Every single piece of evidence and inference points away from Zimmerman initiating a physical confrontation.

-- I also know the kid was innocent of any wrong doing. --

That statement contradicts your "No one (not you, I or the police) know what happened in that time frame or who attacked who first."

-- ... cases like this should NEVER be an open and shut as the police made it. --

The evidence speaks for itself. If the case is clear cut, it's clear cut. If it's not, it's not.

93 posted on 03/25/2012 7:13:38 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Wissa

I have to get to work, its been fun. My point in all of this has been no one knows. No one will ever know what happened in that time frame. No evidence is going to come out barring a video tape ala Rodney King. The only thing we will ever have to go on about who swung at who first, when the weapon was drawn, etc is Zimmerman’s statement. This was a preventable situation had Zimmerman not racially profiled and then exited his car to follow an innocent 17 year old child. I feel bad for Zimmerman if it was in self defense and he genuinely acted in good faith, but he erred in judgment and a kid is dead as a result. This is a tragedy from multiple angles. Hope you have a good night.


94 posted on 03/25/2012 7:19:40 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: templarbeat

You have neighbors reporting noise, not visual reenactments of the events. No one will ever know if Martin saw the gun prior to the physical altercation as there is no way of knowing. The kid was innocent of wrong doing at the point where Zimmerman was yelling accusations and got out of the vehicle to go after him, and Zimmerman was guilty of being a vigilante in the way he handled things. Pursuit (legal or not) is not the right course of action and how could the kid not feel threatened.


95 posted on 03/25/2012 7:25:39 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: templarbeat
So I accept that, can you accept that no one knows what happened

I'll say that nobody knows 100% of what happened that night. Since they already investigated the matter, I'd also say though that the police know a heck of a lot more about what happened than anybody else outside of Zimmerman. They investigated the shooting and decided that the evidence apparently backed up the version that Zimmerman gave them. Absent any evidence (I repeat, ANY evidence) to make me doubt their competence, I'll believe they made the right call. Whether Martin's parents, or the left, or a percentage of the black population want to make this a political issue is not relevant.

and Zimmerman acted improperly (even if legal).

Can't go along with you there. He was doing what was expected of him in letting the police know about what he considered suspicious activity, in accordance with training received from the police at the neighborhood watch training sessions. The police didn't specifically tell him NOT to follow Martin. They didn't tell him they didn't WANT him to follow Martin. They said they didn't NEED him to do it. With Zimmerman being the one on the scene, having to make the decisions, I'm not going to say that he acted improperly, solely based on how tragic the consequences turned out to be. I wasn't there, so I'm not in a position to judge him guilty of "acting improperly".

96 posted on 03/25/2012 7:31:39 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: templarbeat
Can you name one good and solid reason for Zimmerman to chase after him?

Ummm cause he thought he was potentially criminal? Because there had been numerous burglaries and break-ins in the neighborhood. Because the crime rate of young black males is extremely high.

97 posted on 03/25/2012 7:35:41 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Wissa

There is the error. He did not act in accordance with the training he received in the Neighborhood Watch program. He got out of the vehicle and pursued, that is the crucial and deadly error. That program is explicit about not pursuing a suspect, that was all on Zimmerman. If he avoids that crucial act, we aren’t discussing this.


98 posted on 03/25/2012 7:37:37 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: templarbeat
I tried to qualify things appropriately.

If Zimmerman's version of events conflicts with with any eyewitness testimony, as well as any other evidence, such as phone transcripts, etc., then he probably will get charges filed against him.

But if there is insufficient evidence to contradict Zimmerman's statements, he'll get the benefit of the doubt, as jury convictions only accrue when there is NO reasonable doubt.

It would appear that from the actual evidence available at the time, that some legal authorities concluded that no charges were to be filed. If negative evidence develps pursuant to further investigation, I'm sure that will change.

As opposed to a special investigator politically issuing an indictment, I think that the most legitimate way to proceed would be to impanel a grand jury, and let the chips fall where they may.

99 posted on 03/25/2012 7:40:13 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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Wrong, he was acting as a member of the Neighborhood Watch and they explicitly state NEVER to pursue. While not explicitly illegal, it was stupid and everything that followed could have been avoided. It heightened tensions for him, and it probably scared the kid to death. He stays in the car, we aren’t discussing this.


100 posted on 03/25/2012 7:41:13 PM PDT by templarbeat
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