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Weekly Preppers Thread
3/16/12

Posted on 03/16/2012 10:27:34 AM PDT by Kartographer

Weekly thread to post good buys for preparedness equipment and supplies, tips and tricks or just an update on where your are in your preparedness plans.


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KEYWORDS: beprepared; getreadyhereitcomes; preparedness; preparenow; prepperping; preppers; selfreliance; selreliance; shtf; survivalping; weeklyprepperthread
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To: metmom

We’ve got peas and garlic growing, and we’re planting some lettuce and onion this weekend. Loving this weather! Meanwhile, trips to Sams club are helping with the preps. We are not exactly master gardeners, plus we live on a very small piece of property with very poor soil and black walnut trees, so canned goods and dehydrating are the way to go. We have a few raised beds and we’re trying to do what we can with that.


51 posted on 03/16/2012 12:36:18 PM PDT by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: Kartographer
Give them the food then show them the bullet and tell them: “This time you get rice, beans and water, next time you get this.”

GMTA

52 posted on 03/16/2012 12:38:01 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Drill Thrawl; All

“thesurvivalpodcast.com
Listening to episode 852 as I type.”

I wrote 20+ articles on prepping on the survivalpodcast.com forum. They are all in one place. Over 10,000 have read them - anyone interested in reading them, send me a Frepmail.


53 posted on 03/16/2012 12:38:33 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: sheana

I don’t talk about preps to friends or neighbors. Too risky for me.


54 posted on 03/16/2012 12:43:10 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: sheana

“My best friend was laughing about it the other day and literally said...we will just go to your house cause we know you are prepping. I told her unless they brought something to the table they wouldn’t get in and laughed. She doesn’t know how serious I am.”

I wouldn’t call that a BF...i’d call it a lazy leech.

My grandparents went through the Great Depression, and taught us kids about “being ready for anything”. I was squeamish at the time, but now I understand the value of knowing how to hunt & trap & fish for your food...and how to store it, for years, if necessary... And how to protect your family....

The person who expects you to take care of her is not your friend!


55 posted on 03/16/2012 12:44:43 PM PDT by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: sheana

“My best friend was laughing about it the other day and literally said...we will just go to your house cause we know you are prepping. I told her unless they brought something to the table they wouldn’t get in and laughed. She doesn’t know how serious I am.”

I wouldn’t call that a BF...i’d call it a lazy leech.

My grandparents went through the Great Depression, and taught us kids about “being ready for anything”. I was squeamish at the time, but now I understand the value of knowing how to hunt & trap & fish for your food...and how to store it, for years, if necessary... And how to protect your family....

The person who expects you to take care of her is not your friend!


56 posted on 03/16/2012 12:44:56 PM PDT by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: sneakers

We don’t have a lot of land but I’m using it as efficiently as possible. We also have a couple black walnut trees but they don’t interfere with where I have my garden.

I have planted some currants and blueberries, both of which do double duty as decorative shrubs and fruit producers.

I also set aside a small plot for an herb garden and have in it sage, Greek oregano, English thyme, rosemary (which is an annual but cheap enough and one can EASILY provide you with enough rosemary to harvest and dry yourself to last you the year), and echinacea. I’m going to do some basil as well, although that is also an annual but seeds are cheap enough.

I liked the idea of having herbs on hand. Food can be pretty boring without them and grow a few tomatoes and you can still have Italian.


57 posted on 03/16/2012 12:47:21 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Kartographer

I have had the flu all week as well. First day up for me and still rather shakey. Hubby has it now. ;(


58 posted on 03/16/2012 12:53:54 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Marcella

I don’t either. We have been friends for a very long time and she ‘knows’ us.


59 posted on 03/16/2012 12:54:52 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Cabbage can also be “replanted.” Bury it in the ground head first with a little of the root sticking up. Cover with straw or some type of insulation. It will keep most of the winter. The outer leaves will rot, but the inside will be all white and so very sweet.


60 posted on 03/16/2012 1:24:28 PM PDT by Library Lady
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To: sheana

“I don’t either. We have been friends for a very long time and she ‘knows’ us.”

It’s hard, isn’t it? What are you going to do if something happens and she and family have nothing?

I amazes me, living in hurricane terrority, that people around me have nothing and rush to the store the day before, cleaning out stores, with nothing prepared. There was no power for five days but I had good food, way to cook, have light, TV, cooling, phone, would have had running water if water in pipes had gone off or become contaminated.

I’m not depending on FEMA for my life - Hussein probably has me on his enemy list anyway.


61 posted on 03/16/2012 1:29:40 PM PDT by Marcella (Vote Newt; Newt needs money)
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To: Born Freep

Costco also has freeze dried hash browns in a case of small milk type cartons. They are pretty good, one carton will feed 3 people.


62 posted on 03/16/2012 1:50:06 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Depends on whether they have a young, sturdy daughter that looks capable of pulling a plow. ;)

hmmm,may have to rethink this , oops - wife probably wouldn't go for that ;>)

63 posted on 03/16/2012 2:01:57 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: MrB

—Oh, I changed my mind, piroque’s right.

You should just shoot people who come to your door asking for help.

/sarc-—

You don’t want to rule out cannibalism.


64 posted on 03/16/2012 2:12:04 PM PDT by running_dog_lackey
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To: appalachian_dweller; Kartographer

Thank you Kartographer. You do good work, walking the fine line between opsec and education.

AD - one thing to bear in mind about “I continue to walk the property thinking of ways to attack our compound and ways to defeat such attacks.”

Remember the parable of the swordsman. The best swordsman in the world fears the worst, because he has NO idea what the idiot is gonna do! Consider that in your scenarios.

Something that you would consider a totally stupid way of attacking your compound is actually more likely to be the way you are attacked if it comes to that.


65 posted on 03/16/2012 2:21:56 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

I post this from time to time - you can get hand cranked USB chargers for a couple of bucks. The build quality is OK, or you can make your own easily enough.

The advantage of the Kindle is it is an entire library in something smaller than a book. Useful when storage room is an issue. It is a good way of expanding your library, though printout, and bound books are recommended for the really important stuff.

There are many books you want and need available for free through several universities sites. Books written in the late 1800s, early 1900s, which is where your tech level for most aspects of life is going to be.

One thing I always recommend, bookwise, is a GOOD vegetarian cookbook or two. If you have a garden, you are going to have veggies to go with your stores. Meat is going to be rarer in a real SHTF scenario.


66 posted on 03/16/2012 2:33:09 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: EnglishCon

http://www.digitalbookindex.com/_search/search010carepntrywoodwkcnstra.asp is a good place to start.


67 posted on 03/16/2012 2:39:44 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Kartographer
Sorry you are not feeling well Kartographer - Get well soon and thanks for all your hard work on this for us Freepers!!
68 posted on 03/16/2012 2:54:03 PM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: appalachian_dweller
Others in the group have secured a very extensive first aid kit which includes surgical instruments, airways, quick-clot, etc.

Ad, can you provide the source they used for that kit?

Thanks.

69 posted on 03/16/2012 3:08:14 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: MomwithHope

“Costco also has freeze dried hash browns in a case of small milk type cartons. They are pretty good, one carton will feed 3 people.”

Thanks! I’ll go look for some.


70 posted on 03/16/2012 3:19:22 PM PDT by Born Freep
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To: Kartographer

“I’ve had the flu all week which caused my patience to run really short, “

LOL. I saw you get a little bit feisty on another thread. Keep up the good work, Kart. Really appreciate it.


71 posted on 03/16/2012 3:26:55 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: EnglishCon
I followed your link, but when I tried to open some of the listed titles, all I got was:

Error: No-Follow Instructions violated.

Any suggestions?

72 posted on 03/16/2012 3:45:49 PM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: metmom
Bring your rosemary in doors during the winter.

It requires little sun, just be careful to water it lightly. It hates having it's feet wet.

Rosemary is hard to grow from seed I have found so I am careful with my plant. Besides when has grown a bit it makes a nice mini Christmas tree. :)

73 posted on 03/16/2012 3:52:15 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
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To: sheana

You laughed in response to her “joke”?

“I told her unless they brought something to the table they wouldn’t get in and [I] laughed.”

Or did you mean:

I told her unless they brought something to the table they wouldn’t get in and she laughed.


74 posted on 03/16/2012 4:08:11 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I did bring it indoors and would put it outside in the warmer weather, but it didn’t make it.

Either it got caught in a freeze or I overwatered it.

I will try again this year and keep in mind about the soil and roots.


75 posted on 03/16/2012 4:10:00 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Col Freeper
You can use VET. supplies for a lot of the items in a first-aid kit. A good place to start

http://www.jefferslivestock.com/ssc/

76 posted on 03/16/2012 4:11:19 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Col Freeper
You can use VET. supplies for a lot of the items in a first-aid kit. A good place to start

www.jeffersequine.com/horsecare

77 posted on 03/16/2012 4:17:01 PM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
I felt the same as you until I found this:

http://www.solarmio.com/en/

There's something to be said for being able to fit a ton of important books into such a small, light (and now always-available) device.

78 posted on 03/16/2012 4:18:46 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: MrB

We have worked for ourselves since 1975. Our various businesses have been mostly craft-related, but included metal smithing/blacksmithing.

There is a truism in the entrepreneurial community: if everyone laughs at your idea, go for it. It will succeed. If, however, everyone thinks it is the best idea since sliced bread, avoid it. It will fail.

Case in point, I have been manufacturing my present product since 1985. I was told it would never go anywhere, for various reasons. The peak for sales was in 2007. Things declined a lot until last November and we are back on an upwards trend. The point is that we are still here.

People will tell you that you are *just* buying yourself a job. That is true. At least you have one. For profit, beyond your own income and reinvestment needs, you need a lot of growth, capital expenditures and employees. You will then do more paperwork and pay more taxes. When you analyze the bottom line, you may find you will do better without all the employees.

As for prepping, people will say: “Everything eventually runs out.” I always agree with them. As someone else posted, the preps are to get through to the point where you can produce what you need. Just as PMs are for starting over, afterward.


79 posted on 03/16/2012 4:19:20 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Col Freeper

Odd - works fine for me.

Try http://quod.lib.umich.edu/m/moa?key=title;page=browse;value=ac or http://hearth.library.cornell.edu/h/hearth/ instead.


80 posted on 03/16/2012 4:25:15 PM PDT by EnglishCon (Gingrich/Santorum 2012.)
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To: Kartographer

That best deals I’ve ever seen on eBay are for heavy duty boots. If you don’t mind buying “factory seconds” you can get a $200 pair of boots for $40 or less. (Usually the factory seconds just have some cosmetic issue, such as a scuff)


81 posted on 03/16/2012 4:26:28 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Kartographer

Hear hear!


82 posted on 03/16/2012 4:37:50 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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To: Kartographer

Also, my recommendation for anyone feeling insecure in this Obama-economy is to consider owning and operating a tow truck. This is going to become a growth industry, you can set your own hours, you can charge an arm-and-a-leg, it’s mobile ... you can probably also combine it with some other income source.


83 posted on 03/16/2012 4:40:43 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Kartographer
Final IMPORTANT tip:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-02/asfm-vik021306.php

84 posted on 03/16/2012 4:42:30 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: The Duke

Thank you for that. I added it to my files and sent it on to friends.


85 posted on 03/16/2012 4:54:35 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Kartographer

i have a strange ? i want to throw out there...

i think live garlic is very good for health...how hard is it to grow?


86 posted on 03/16/2012 5:33:38 PM PDT by AnTiw1 ("Presently pursued by a gay stalker described as a little Napoleon in a tutu.")
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To: metmom
Rosemary is super easy to overwater. You have to remember that it is a plant from a semiarid region used to long dry spells and sudden heavy rains. I would let it go a week or so and then pour in a cup of water. If the water sinks right in then you are doing it right.

If you have a lavender plant same thing goes, in fact you can plant them in the same area.

87 posted on 03/16/2012 6:28:09 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
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To: AnTiw1
Garlic is very easy to grow. You can even grow it in containers if you need to.
88 posted on 03/16/2012 6:36:43 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
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To: reformedliberal
Thank you for that. I added it to my files and sent it on to friends.

In this case I'll give you a bonus prepper tip...check into the antibiotic qualities of Manuka Honey. It literally worked a miracle in my own life when no medicines would help (I had a multi-year MRSA-like skin infection on my shin .. cleared right up with a Manuka Honey poltice applied for a week).

Also, here's another favorite prepper link:

http://www.survivalblog.com/2010/07/a_doctors_thoughts_on_antibiot.html

Now I'm *really* breaking to go enjoy my weekend! :)

89 posted on 03/16/2012 7:05:23 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: The Duke; Jim Robinson
skin infection on my shin .. cleared right up with a Manuka Honey

Isn't that what Jim Robinson used which was so fabulous in helping his problem?

90 posted on 03/16/2012 7:14:27 PM PDT by caww
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To: AnTiw1

80 percent of the garlic consumed in this country is grown in china. same with apple juice.


91 posted on 03/16/2012 7:29:12 PM PDT by blam
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To: The Duke

Good point. Thanks.


92 posted on 03/16/2012 9:03:46 PM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I do have lavender and have always wondered why some thrived and other plants didn’t.

The ones in the front lawn, which is on the shadeless south side of the house are parched and ENORMOUS.

Time to move the few remaining ones from out back while there’s still hope for them.

I will definitely keep that in mind with the rosemary. Last fall, the plant was doing so well, I didn’t have the heart to let it die, so I put it in a pot and it managed pretty well until this winter. Once it looked dead, I’ve basically ignored it and just haven’t bothered watering it since. Maybe there is still hope for it then. I’ll give it a try.


93 posted on 03/16/2012 10:43:28 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: blam; AnTiw1

100% of the garlic consumed in my house is grown in my backyard.

Garlic is not hard to grow, just needs to be weeded meticulously as it does not do well with competition from the roots of other plants.


94 posted on 03/16/2012 10:48:32 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Nope, its a goner.

I just checked the the plant is totally dried out and the soil is still wet.

Time to just harvest the leaves and get a new one.


95 posted on 03/16/2012 10:52:21 PM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: caww
Isn't that what Jim Robinson used which was so fabulous in helping his problem?

I didn't hear about that, but what it did for me was astounding. My symptoms were literally starting to read like gangrene with a little flesh-eating bacteria thrown in.

All cleared up by a little Manuka honey. Just amazing.

96 posted on 03/16/2012 11:55:59 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: Kartographer

If there’s a ping list add me to it


97 posted on 03/17/2012 12:01:11 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: running_dog_lackey

Beats hunting, I guess, to have a protein source come right up to your door.


98 posted on 03/17/2012 5:12:44 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kartographer

Apropos the rocket stoves discussed last week, how do you light one without it venting backwards?

And how do you clean out the ash?

And how do you clean the flu?


99 posted on 03/17/2012 6:03:33 AM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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To: The Duke; Jim Robinson

There’s a thread somewhere here on Jim’s treatment and how stunningly the honey treatments worked. ...his ordeal was very serious...the Dr.s were talking about amputation,.... he had a nurse who treats people with this honey and much success with. We were so happy he had such favorable results...I’m still stunned that honey could have such a healing affect!


100 posted on 03/17/2012 6:11:32 AM PDT by caww
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