In other words, Italy recognized his transferring citizenship to the US, August 31st, 1930. Two decades before Rick was born.
Can this stupid theory be put to rest now?
Posted on 03/15/2012 8:33:43 PM PDT by God'sgrrl
You are staking the utterly absurd position that the administrative and bureaucratic process to finalize his citizenship matters more than the oath Aldo Santorum took and his service to this country that made him automatically eligible, by U.S. Code and long-standing tradition, to be a citizen in the first place.
What if a bureacratic snarl had tied up finalizing Aldo's citizenship to a time after Rick Santorum's birth, as what happened with MD Expat in PA's father? Would that matter more to you than the fact that Aldo served? Do you want to declare MD Expat in PA ineligible to seek the presidency, using your own absurdly stringent definition of an NBC?
Apparently so. Good ideas can be taken to the point of irrelevance and then absurdity if you refuse to factor in other points of view. You have clearly gone well past irrelevance and into abject absurdity.
Ok, you all win.
I concede the field to you.
In other words, Italy recognized his transferring citizenship to the US, August 31st, 1930. Two decades before Rick was born.
Can this stupid theory be put to rest now?
YES! Thank GOD!
Seriously, Mnering! Thank you! That’s all I wanted!
Italy can't transfer his citizenship. He would have been a legal immigrant until the United States grants his citizenship.
Transfer was probably the wrong word, but it was pretty clear he was removed from their citizenship roles after he came to the US.
Santorum's argument was the laws are not being enforced. One Freeper in the bag for Rick went as far as accusing anyone critical of Santorum's statement as defending child porn.
Your Newt "quote" is that the law will be enforced. It makes no claim the laws aren't already being enforced to his liking.
The message is clearly this: Santorum doesn't think the obscenity standard used now is broad enough.
Rather than accept he may have poorly stated his viewpoint or actually has a different take, Santorum apologists are attempting to cloud the waters with false equivalences made with other candidates' statements or attacking their supporters or anyone who dare question their golden idol.
Just yesterday on FR the attack line was anyone who questioned Santorum's perspective was a kiddie porn apologist. You lot are the worst possible advertisement for Santorum. It's the equivalent of Obama-worshipping drones: see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil with a healthy dose of shut-your-face, mind-your-place.
Nonsense. One can think current enforcement inadequate without calling for a broader definition of obscenity.
“Just yesterday on FR the attack line was anyone who questioned Santorum’s perspective was a kiddie porn apologist.”
And take your strawman arguments and stuff them where the sun don’t shine.
That would make your argument that Newt Gingrich believes Barack Obama is correctly enforcing the laws.
Since the question he was asked clearly implies that the laws are not being enforced, I don’t see how you could interpret his answer as being a “more of the same” argument.
Since I showed how both candidates used the same words as their operative plan (not the words about why, the words about what they would actually promise to do), I again don’t see how you can call this “duplicitous”.
I provided both quotes, so I’m hardly hiding anything like the people who attacked Santorum for his quote without showing the other quotes.
Thank you, Jim. This birther stuff has got to stop.
Thank you especially to MNehring for providing citizenship documents. Maybe they don't show Aldo Santorum had yet become an American citizen, but they darn sure show he wasn't a loyal Italian anymore.
The way this thread was going, for a while I was wondering if someone was going to call Aldo Santorum, an honorably discharged World War II veteran and career Veterans Administration psychologist, a dirty Dago, a Mussolini lover, or some other nonsense. (And yes, my last name is Italian and my ancestors came from the same province as Aldo Santorum, though a half-century earlier, so don't accuse me of using ethnic slurs.) We've got enough problems in the conservative movement without stuff like this.
Please define “natural born citizen” and cite your reference.
The constitution does not define it, and the courts have danced around it.
Disregard my last, I see this has been resolved.
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