Posted on 02/02/2012 9:22:28 AM PST by libertarian neocon
“With Obama in, Republicans in Congress would be more united in opposing him.
With Romney in, Republicans in Congress would be divided in opposing any pro-socialism initiatives from him. Romney+RINOs+Democrats beats conservatives.”
That is exactly right. I 100% agree.
Romney would also destroy the Republican Party. I am still undecided on whether that is bad or good.
“Whomever the candidate is, fully support him and get rid of the democrat party enemy.”
The point of the post was that, yes in the short term things will be at least marginally better but I would argue that in 2016 and beyond things will definitely be worse for America as there will be larger Democratic majorities and a fractured GOP.
“Is 4 more years of the same with republicans to blame worse than 4 more years of the same with democrats to blame?”
Longer term it is better if people blame Democrats. They are complete socialists.
I could easily see them getting "postponed". Or, so flooded by Acorn-type voting as to be useless.
Here is the record, 100% of his many appointments were liberal, only 25% of them were even Republicans.
Are you sure that this link should be part of your arsenal?
From your link:
“Early last month I wrote an article called Rising Christian Imperialism Fueled by Dominion Theology. The article is mainly about the danger of Far Right Christian dominionists gaining control after the Obama failure brings about a Far Right backlash in America.”
Romney winning as Governor in Mass. was not unusual at all, he was the fourth Republican Governor in a row, the state usually elects Rep Govs.
Romney’s effect on the state was to devastate the state GOP, leave with 34% approval, and the Democrats have owned his seat ever since.
Yes, we did. But remember, he was the candidate selected via the primaries/caucuses. I wasn't happy about it either, but he's who we had. Going third party wouldn't have changed the outcome.
And as a result, did we move up in the “food chain” so to speak?
When I made this comment, I was talking about getting people elected locally (i.e. state senate) then would later move into national offices (i.e. Congress or President). McCain had nothing to do with local offices, so of course, he would have nothing to do with moving local people up the "food chain". I can't speak for your state, but we got several pretty conservative people into our state senate last election.
Yeah, I know that a write in vote for Palin, a third party vote for whoever, or not voting at all is the same as voting for Obama, but so what?
I really don't see how getting Obama re-elected will help us make the conservative case. As more and more people get free stuff from the government, there will be more and more of them voting liberal. We each have to do what our conscience tells us, but I could not in good conscience do anything that might give us another 4 years of Obama.
Jim DeMint is one of the people who helped steer the Romney run in the first place, they joined back when Mitt was still in office in 2006, DeMint was on his exploratory committee, and then Co-Chair of his Presidential campaign.
no I was just pointing out the Mormon cult agenda Sorry btw there are some interesting comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVmwS9msL_c
On this site? It sure does matter. You might want to re-read its purpose.
Former Mormon tells why he would never vote for Mitt Romney
Mitt Romney would put cult before State.
Why I, as a former Mormon, would not vote for Mitt Romney for President of United States. – CWN: “In terms of the secular effects upon government, the public should also be aware that Mormomism’s blood-oaths bind Mitt Romney to obey the Mormon Church in Salt Lake City above the Constitution, above US law, and, yes, above the Christian and Jewish understanding of God. We’ve heard Romney argue that this is all the same bum wrap they laid on Jack Kennedy in the sixties. But it’s not. It’s not the same at all. Here’s why.
A US president with no definite religious beliefs, or a membership in some mainstream Christian denomination, may not have influence that could effect the eternity of individuals, but a man with deep-rooted cultic beliefs would persuade millions of the credibility of Mormonism, especially when taking into consideration that the LDS Church has a nearly sixty thousand strong missionary force. They could and would use President Romney as ”bait” for an introduction into Mormonism, not only in the United States, but around the world. “
...just when I go thinking someone's a conservative....this happens :(
Per that comment, you assume much about Romney that is not supported by his public record.
Using your analogy, I would say that Romney as president, would only slow down the runaway train to 500 mph at BEST. That is what his record indicates he would do as president - all campaign rhetoric aside.
Given the dire state of the country, that's entirely unacceptable. We need a president who will apply the brakes with both feet, and slam that sucker into reverse, if we're to stave off certain destruction. Romney is NOT that guy.
The point is, if Romney becomes the nominee, then America's between a rock and a hard place. We're going to go off 'the cliff' no matter who wins the general election. The only question remaining is, do we want Romney to take the entire Republican center-right down with him, or would we prefer that Obama and the Democrats receive the rightful blame for what they've wrought?
If this is our choice, I'd rather see our side take over Congress, and tie Obama's hands for four years. A second flush in November will likely bring us a congressional majority in both houses, and the OPPOSITION to the tyranny residing in the White House will INCREASE exponentially.
Who knows what that increased opposition will lead to, but it'll never happen if Romney the liberal is president.
That same issue exists if Obama is re-elected.
As to moving up the "food chain". . .typically tomorrow's Congress critters and Presidents come from politicians that had been elected to local offices first. If we get good, conservatives elected to local positions, it stands to reason the "pool" of people available to move up the food chain will be more conservative.
Easy answer. No, it wouldn’t. But even if it was, it would still be better for the nation.
I'll bet that's dead on accurate. Romney's as phony as the day is long, and so are his claims to being a conservative and a Republican.
One could make a good argument for allowing Obama another term to fully implement his socialist agenda as an “object lesson”.
As bad as things now are, apparently two thirds of America senses no alarm. Maybe they need 25% jobless, societal collapse, exploding street crime and long lines for bread just to START paying attention to politics.
Freepers know the issues, we know the Founding Fathers insights, we know Saul Alinsky tactics... we cannot be easily led by liberal/socialist pied pipers. However, the average citizen is busy watching American Idol and Daily Show.
I hate to say it: the average citizen hasn’t YET seen the logic of limited government and conservatism , so probably needs things to COMPLETELY break down. Freepers should stop investing in gold and switch to lead.
Unfortunately, for Romney to win the votes of Christians what will first happen, is that conservative writers, radio hosts, columnists, social conservative leaders, all of our talking heads, thinkers, and millions of rank and file conservatives and Christians will be drawn into the largest collection of, the most diverse collection of, the most creative collection of Mormon apologists, in history.
Mormonism will be daily rationalized, ways to smooth over Christian concerns will be thought of and delivered on the air waves, just as Hugh Hewitt and Michael Medved already do. Limbaugh and others will fall into a daily routine of countering and defeating Christian protests against Mormonism. New creative thoughts and reasoning will come from National Review, and Fox
The right will be sucked into becoming the foot soldiers of mainstreaming and rationalizing Mormonism.
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