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Would a Romney Presidency Be Worse for the Conservative Cause Than a Second Term for Obama?
http://libertarian-neocon.blogspot.com/2012/02/would-romney-presidency-be-worse-for.html ^ | libertarian neocon

Posted on 02/02/2012 9:22:28 AM PST by libertarian neocon

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To: RayBob
If you can’t stop the train, at least slow it down to buy time...

What makes you think Romney would slow it down? It can't be because of where he claims he stands on the issues because he's lying. Romney will not be accountable to the Republican party as you appear to believe....though he will be deceptive and make them believe so...he's had years of practice at deception and it has worked for him...imagine people on FR are actually considering voting for him....knowing full well he is a deceiver in every way.

Foolish people who believed Obama are also "hopeful" Romney will just not be as bad.....deception works for the uninformed.

121 posted on 02/06/2012 7:38:54 AM PST by caww
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To: rockrr
A Romney presidency says that we aren’t serious about solving Americas problems

A Romney presidency says we still can't find a candidate to run.

122 posted on 02/06/2012 7:53:27 AM PST by zeebee
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To: RayBob
In a choice between Romney and Obama, there is no contest. We should vote for Romney. Maybe you think it is better to see the country destroyed and turned into a socialist state, but I would rather take my chances in the hope that Romney will help right the ship, then allow Obama to intentionally scuttle her.

That's just the thing, Ray. Romney will never help right our ship. Despite appearances, he's not all that different from Obama. His governing record in Massachusetts is solidly statist liberal.

Screw the talk. Watch the walk. There isn't a single thing in this man's record to indicate that he would be anything but a big government Socialist as president. Excuse me, but if my choices are between Romney and Obama, the only difference I see is their skin color and their bank accounts.

Perhaps Romney will back the accelerator off a couple of mph, but he's not going to change Obama's course.

The next president needs to jam on the brakes with both feet, and yank the wheel hard to the right, to keep us from going off the cliff. Neither Romney or Obama are going to do this. We're doomed if either one of them is elected.

So, let me ask you this -- if and when the car flies over the precipice, which guy do you want behind the wheel?

123 posted on 02/06/2012 9:46:02 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: caww
Looking back, it would have been better for the conservative cause if Sarah Palin had turned McCain down in 2008. If she'd done that, he would have chosen Tom Ridge or some other RINO as his running mate, and would have lost to Obama in a landslide.

Had that happened, the Republican establishment just might have learned a lesson, and they wouldn't now be pushing Romney on us. If the Republican had been utterly crushed in the last election, perhaps they'd now be stepping back just enough to allow a real conservative reformer to win the nomination.

124 posted on 02/06/2012 9:57:14 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Perhaps, but I tend to think the Republicans have too long been comfortable with the staus quo without a hint of moving outside that other than occassional lip service. I don't think they're interested in learning lessons from the public...certainly not now...they are interested in maintaining the status quo of where they sit now. And they'll "play" however is necessary to sustain themselves.

I agree with Newt..there has to be a clearing out before we can expect any real changes...and he can't do that alone without us cleaning out the local trash and governors of each state, along with congress. It's a formidable battle I hesitate to say enough are willing to have their hands a part of..."a Few good men" are certainly in order for our team.

125 posted on 02/06/2012 10:15:28 AM PST by caww
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To: RayBob
I’m sorry, I thought that as conservatives, we were concerned about what is best for the country, I didn’t realize that we were to supposed to put our private goals ahead of the good of the country. Guess I’m not a good “conservative” by your standard.

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Not my words, sir. But unless you are of the opinion that what is good for the conservative movement isn't also what's good for America, there ought to be more ways than one to reach that goal.

I trust that isn't the case with you.

126 posted on 02/06/2012 10:17:24 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Why, yes. I AM in a bad mood.)
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To: caww
I think Sand88 said it best on another thread:

True Conservatives know the Federal government is heading to insolvency. The sooner we fix the problem the better it will be. Mitt would just delay the fix at least 4 more years. He would be a failure as President and likely usher in another Marxist.

The true solution lies in the crisis of such magnitude that the "several States" gather and vote to dissolve the Federal Union. The current socialist Federal government can then be replaced by a strict Constitutional Republic.

The dissolution will not be pretty, but it will quickly accomplish the removal of almost all Federal Agencies, the firing are very large numbers of Federal parasites, the dissolution of all Federal Courts except the Supreme Court (to rid the lower courts of Marxists). Remember, the Congress created all the lower courts.

A reconstituted Republic can quickly rebound and unleash the energy of a free people.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2843045/posts?page=46#46

127 posted on 02/06/2012 11:37:29 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
The true solution lies in the crisis of such magnitude that the "several States" gather and vote to dissolve the Federal Union. The current socialist Federal government can then be replaced by a strict Constitutional Republic.

How could that be even possible? I just don't see that happening. The obstacles would be huge and the governing powers would fight it fiercely. I say this because just looking at the states who have attempted to write laws concerning how they handle illegals...the gov. is coming down hard on them. Further imagining "states coming together" would be a long shot at best. They haven't come together on Obamacare, though several are rejecting mandates, it's not unified.

128 posted on 02/06/2012 1:26:18 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
How could that be even possible? I just don't see that happening. The obstacles would be huge and the governing powers would fight it fiercely.

Well, it won't be possible without a cataclysmic collapse of the current putrid, rotting regime, which is what Sand88 was referring to.

129 posted on 02/06/2012 1:58:57 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
it won't be possible without a cataclysmic collapse of the current putrid, rotting regime

I understand that, but I don't see that they're going to collapse any time soon...nor later if Obamas admin. holds...or Romneys gets in...there's nothing which can collapse this admin short of war on our land..and even then 9/11 showed clearly we never identify the enemy for who they are....and now they're on our soil planning their evil deeds and our gov. is supporting them coming here. I am so livid about this and see no way this country is going to survive unless Newt gets in and even then it's going to be a haul.

130 posted on 02/06/2012 2:11:09 PM PST by caww
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To: caww
I understand that, but I don't see that they're going to collapse any time soon...nor later if Obamas admin. holds...or Romneys gets in...there's nothing which can collapse this admin short of war on our land.

Caww, we're $15 Trillion dollars in debt and the administration wants to raise the credit/debt limit, and keep the printing presses running. The Marxist is bypassing Congress and implementing his radical leftist agenda while Boehner cries, and McConnell looks on stupidly. If he's allowed to continue to rule by fiat, he'll collapse our entire system all by himself. No civil war necessary.

At the very least, I think there's a 10th Amendment rebellion on the part of the states coming, and that may well be accompanied by widespread civil disobedience. 300,000,000 people can only take so much, before something gives.

131 posted on 02/06/2012 2:25:32 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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