Posted on 07/27/2011 3:58:09 PM PDT by charlene4
Cpt. Pamela Barnett: Obama said that he visited Pakistan in 1981 in trying to boast his "international" experience. However, according to school records Obama was not attending Columbia University as he has said.
SO WHERE WAS OBAMA IN 1981????
Obama was most likely on an Indonesian passport when he visited Pakistan as the DHS and DOJ redact all records that point to him being adopted by Lo Lo Soetoro. Obama was in Pakistan when a murderous muslim ruler was in control of Pakistan and warring with the Soviet communists.
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...
Good catch. The Lolo being Hawaiian is another glaring error in the story.
I’m ready to write off Ann & Stan Dunham as Obama’s mom & grandfather and Lolo as Maya’s father.
Nothing can be ruled out, but I’m now guessing:
1) Ann Dunham - if she was actually the daughter of Madeline - was nothing more than Obama’s half-sister au pair and/or Madeline’s maid.
2) Ann happened to be cleaning/taking care of Barry in Madeline’s apartment when FMD was walking by and Maya was born 9 months later.
“I’m ready to write off Ann & Stan Dunham as Obama’s mom & grandfather and Lolo as Maya’s father.”
I am ready to Barry off period!
I certainly would not rule that out, BUT mothers usually don’t just pawn their first born off on their parents and take off for other parts of the world. She always kept her daughter Maya by her side. Something not right there. Also no photos of her and Barry or Barry and the grandparents or Barry and any other person until he was a toddler. We know they had a camera because there are plenty of pictures of Stanley Anne.
I would go along with the errors being an one-time unintentional mistake, except that these type of errors seem to appear all the time in Obama articles & even recent books such as Janny Scotts ‘A Singular Woman’ and Sally Jacobs ‘ The Other Barack’.
It seems like the completely phony 1995 ‘Dreams from My Father’ narrative has been pushed along by a complacent media starting in 2007-2008 with these type of articles.
Here is something VERY odd:
This article was posted by Bill Lawson on November 13, 2008 @ 12:02 pm and DOESN’T contain any of the 5 major errors:
http://www.maumellemonitor.com/articles/2008/11/13/the_times/local_news/nws01.txt
This article by Bill Lawson was posted a hour later on November 13, 2008 @ 1:04 pm and contains the 5 major errors:
http://www.maumellemonitor.com/articles/2008/11/13/maumelle_monitor/living/liv01.txt
1. “Goeldner said her sister-in-law actually raised Barrack Obama, or Barry as they called him, when he was young, after his mother died in 1970.”
2. “When Ann died at an early age, it was Virginia’s brother and sister-in-law who raised the future president.”
3. “Obama’s grandfather, Stanley, left Kansas and moved to Texas and it was in the Seattle area where his mother Stanley Ann Dunham, WAS BORN.”
4.”Stanley Armour Dunham, who was Barack Obama’s grandfather, who died in 1982;”
5. “She married a Hawaiian and gave birth to the president-elect’s half sister, Maya.”
Young 17 year old white girls in 1960 don't normally take classes in the Russian Language and have unprotected sex with black men, then run away to Washington State for the next year thereby avoiding the father whomever he was.
That Stanley Ann did things a little screwy implies for me that you can't use usual or normal standards to suggest what she would or would not do. There is plenty of precedent for young women abandoning their children. That Stanley Ann became one of these is not remarkable.
She always kept her daughter Maya by her side. Something not right there.
Her reasons could be any number of things. Perhaps she was just taken with having a "daughter." As an only daughter (when a son was wanted) she may have wanted to give her daughter the loving attention of which she felt she had been cheated. Also, the current child was the link to her husband. Some women feel insecure without a man, and one of the ways they reinforce the connection is through the common children. The first Husband (or father) was already gone.
Also no photos of her and Barry or Barry and the grandparents or Barry and any other person until he was a toddler.
Perhaps she was too busy earning a living and going to school in Seattle during 1961, and couldn't afford film? I know it would be hard for me to work film (and a camera if she didn't already own one) into the budget were I her. I don't put much significance into a lack of baby pictures during this time of her life.
We know they had a camera because there are plenty of pictures of Stanley Anne.
I'm having a difficulty following your argument here. I only know of a few pictures of Stanley Ann, and they were taken at different intervals in her life, and very unlikely with the same camera. I would not regard what I have seen as evidence that she had regular access to a camera. Davis did, but I wouldn't say that she did.
I’m ready to write off Ann & Stan Dunham as Obama’s mom & grandfather and Lolo as Maya’s father.
Lolo was not Hawaiian. We know from a dozen different sources he was Indonesian. This is just more evidence of a mistake in the reporting or a mistake in the telling. Aunty may have got that wrong herself. Perhaps she assumed he was Hawaiian, or someone mistook "Indonesian" for "Polynesian".
It seems like the completely phony 1995 ‘Dreams from My Father’ narrative has been pushed along by a complacent media starting in 2007-2008 with these type of articles.
The Liberal biographers are intentionally covering his back. I believe the mistakes in that Virginia Goeldner article are unintentional.
Perhaps she was too busy earning a living and going to school in Seattle during 1961, and couldn’t afford film? I know it would be hard for me to work film (and a camera if she didn’t already own one) into the budget were I her. I don’t put much significance into a lack of baby pictures during this time of her life.
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Lame....her parents had a camera, we know that for a fact. Too busy and too poor to take photos of her first born? That is just ridiculous since we know they had cameras because there are other photos around that same time.
Young 17 year old white girls in 1960 don’t normally take classes in the Russian Language and have unprotected sex with black men, then run away to Washington State for the next year thereby avoiding the father whomever he was.
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You state those things as facts, there is no solid evidence that is true. Don’t believe everything you read in ‘Dreams’. It’s purpose was to create a past. Take everything you ever read in Dreams or heard from Obong’s blue lips, start from there.
This article was posted by Bill Lawson on November 13, 2008 @ 12:02 pm and DOESN’T contain any of the 5 major errors:
That is peculiar, and you appear to be correct. The Earlier article doesn't seem to contain those errors. After further examination, it looks like the second article has been re-written from the first. There are quite a few changes between one and the other. Perhaps the first one was from notes, and the second one was from memory.
Again, it looks like the Reporter introduced those errors, rather than Virginia Goeldner said those things. Thanks for noticing that.
America is a bunch of sports-hack/TV retards.
Like Erkel storming the beach on D-Day.
How do you know the parents had a Camera? (August of 1961) Even so, that doesn't mean SHE had a Camera. As for taking photos of her first born, if the story is true that Stanley Ann left Hawaii shortly after he was born, I suspect this is doubtlessly due to a massive argument caused by her parents realizing her child was black. I really don't see white people raised in 1920s Kansas as being okey dokey with Interracial pregnancy, especially that of their Daughter. "Miscegenation" was a felony crime in Many states prior to 1967. Madelyn Dunham's coworkers said she never even told them she had a Grandchild. This is the behavior of one who is ashamed, and is not consistent with the behavior of most Grandparents who would tell everyone they knew of the birth of their Grandchildren. Contemplate the possibility that the Grandparents were not okay with it at first and didn't want pictures. (Eventually they came to be at peace with it.)
That is just ridiculous since we know they had cameras because there are other photos around that same time.
See above, and consider the zeitgeist. I think the parents were really NOT okay with it at first.
There is plenty of supporting evidence outside of Obama's book. If there is more than one corroboration for a point of fact, I consider it more or less proven. (Depending on how plausible it is.)
The family portrait photo would have been taken around 1971, seems a little late for a black-and-white photo.
Just guessing the other two would probably have been 1970ish - also seem a little late for B&W photos, especially since basically all of the Barry’s 1960’s Hawaii photos I can think of were in color.
#279 was meant to be posted to you and not myself. Oops
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