I have nothing against Federal employees. But in terms of wages, benefits and job security, there is no comparison with the private sector today, where, to be perfectly frank: it sucks**.
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Posted on 12/06/2010 4:30:55 AM PST by Suvroc10
Obama pay freeze for federal workers dishonest; 1.1 million still get pay raises. Just this past week, Obama, the "One" himself, announced a supposed pay freeze on federal employees with the lip service that it would (at least symbolically) go toward the long, arduous process of cutting federal spending and bringing down the record-shattering deficits he created. However, as with all things in Obamaland, deception is afoot much of the time! According to analysis on the subject, for the next two years that Obama claimed federal workers will have their pay "frozen," a whopping $2.5 billion will still be spent on pay raises for those very federal employees.
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
Apparently there are reporters out there who take a while to learn about federal government grades and steps.
Next, the biggest surprise of all ~ SOMEBODY GOT A PROMOTION
“You lie!” Instead of castigating Joe Wilson for this accurate assessment of Obama’s truthfulness in his last State of the Union address, the entire GOP should chant this every time he lies in his 2011 SOU speech. That will never happen, of course, because the future of this nation is a political game to the ruling class in D. C.
I never believed that bs in the first place.
First red flag Obama claimed.
Must be nice to be a public employee. Get to ignore this 2nd Great Depression.
Pray for America
Lemme see ... 2.5 billion ... on a budget that has a trillion in deficit ...
... must ... not ... laugh ...
... must ... not ... laugh ...
Wake me up when they slash 300 billion from each years budget which contains NO deficit. Until then its political posturing.
STOP THE CLASS WARFARE. Federal workers are our neighbors, not our enemies.
Last week congress passed a bill that gave moochelle obama over 4 BILLION for salad bars in a handful of schools, just so this wretched insecure elitist overweight flotus would have a social program to run ...
THAT mentality is our enemy - those that demand public money to disburse to a pet cause, and those that give it....that is the enemy
“Must be nice to be a public employee”
It was a choice, not a chance
you’re wrong.
This is not about “class” - it’s about the size, power and reach of government. There are far too many Federal workers, and they are making far more in salary and benefits than those of us in the Dreaded Private Sector who pay for them. Fifty years ago (1960), the majority of private sector jobs could still support an average-sized family. Today, less than 10% of such jobs can provide such security. The American middle class is dwindling as government has grown, and dependency along with it.
You are being manipulated by the Alinskyites to hate and envy other Americans and to blame them for your own situation (If is such a great deal why don't you become a fed? It's not a closed club)
The nazis blamed the Jews for everyone’s bad economy, didn't they? Now you want to blame federal workers for a bad economy? You want to hate and blame federal workers, your friends and neighbors, like Germans blamed the Jews for the Weimar economy?
Why stop there at federal workers? Let's throw in teachers, bankers, insurance agents, state and local govt workers, business owners..... and anyone else with a paycheck and health benefits bigger than yours.... among people to hate and blame for your economic situation, OK? Fire 1/3 of everyone and the economy improves- right?
If you want to slow the growth of government, stop electing people who develop federal programs, put them into law and pass legislation to fund them. No programs = no workers
You are being used as such a tool, buying into this “federal workers are overpaid” stuff ...
IT IS ALL ABOUT CLASS.
look who is feeding you those numbers on the “average” federal worker pay being so much higher than yours ... the lamestream media. They and the WH people FAXing them their talking points everyday- they are looking out for you, aren’t they? (sarc)
If there are “too many” federal govt workers is it because there are “too many” federal programs. Cut or defund the programs. That is the solution.
Stop being used as a tool to blame federal workers. Federal employment is and never was a closed club, you were and are always welcome to join if you think it’s an easy ride.
and as for the “middle class”- where do you think most federal workers reside? Why - maybe in the middle class. hunkered down like everyone else these days, except for being stigmatized as lazy overpaid drones for a career choice they made 10-15-20 years ago.
I have nothing against Federal employees. But in terms of wages, benefits and job security, there is no comparison with the private sector today, where, to be perfectly frank: it sucks**.
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What do you expect from mac daddy?
He is unable to ever tell the truth.
Ten-20 years years ago, some of us remember that being a Federal worker “sucked”. It was all a trade off for job security over opportunity to advance and maybe become wealthy and independent because of hard work and innovation.
And who wanted to manage a workforce that was rigidly regulated and unfire-able? Talk about challenges. Talk about changing cycles and attitudes.
Sorry, you are a tool if you get your information about “comparing” federal and private sector salaries from the news services and the internet.
Figures don't lie, but liars can figure.
Ten years and more ago the “average” feds (whoever they were) were shown as “underpaid”, and those figures were used to get congress to hike pay out of worries the govt was getting slugs and drones more interested in job security than skills. Funny thing about that.
BTW- that big spike in 2009 (and continues into 2010)
obama has in 2 years created a virtual “shadow govt” by inflating the budget of a lot of cabinets and agencies, created even more bureaucracies under his loony lefties, then stacked virtually every federal office in every federal agency (plus a few more his handlers created) with highly paid paid POLITICAL APPOINTEES. You can't get humble PhD’s and geniuses from Harvard and Chicago and Stanford to come oversee the Pentagon and EPA and HHS for less than $150K plus bennies, you know
I don't know what happened to spike figures in 2008- that was the year President GWB ideologically and psychologically left us, and was firmly and finally co opted and pwned by liberal forces getting ready for a democrat takeover
If the “pay averages” show an “exploded” growth in highly paid feds in the past 2 years... well, there ya go. That's the obama effect. It's not the “average” Joes and Janes who have been keeping their heads down and going to work everyday for the past 10-15-20 years, and lately dealing with all these new arrogant entitled-feeling politically hired obamites sweeping into every federal agency to "fundamentally transform" this nation. If this big anti-federal worker MEDIA build up is leading to a federal worker purge, who do you think will be fthe first to go, hmmm? Joe and Jane? Or obama's new federal worker army?
Are there exceptions? Absolutely - you can see them in the data I shared. I fully agree with you that Obama has created a bloated bureaucracy of high-paid political appointees and that they may well skew the numbers, especially in relation to long-standing Federal workers (like yourself). But even so, living in the DC metro area, it may be difficult to imagine what average salaries are now like in most of the rest of the country, especially after twenty years of them decidedly not keeping pace with the cost of living.
Even many of us (like myself) with good management jobs are falling behind as the cost of living increases, our investments have been savaged and our taxes edge ever upward. Moreover - and here's the real issue, I think: there are progressively fewer people like me (taxpayers) to support an ever-enlarging bureaucracy. I understand that some want to frame the issue in terms of "class", but that's never been a real issue in America. Instead, we face a shrinking number of "breadwinner" jobs due to diminished economic growth opportunities that in turn result from massive debt, high taxes, excessive regulation and other barriers to entry (such as legal liability and insurance expenses).
To the present lack of opportunities and obstacles to starting up new businesses, add the pall of uncertainty that hangs over all of us (uncertain tax rates/ObamaCare costs/cap-and-trade fears/regulatory czars/executive orders/potential defaults and bailouts/European currency crises/Federal debt monetization) and it makes for a very somber Christmas season out here in the hinterlands.
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