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Why I Can't Trust the President
WorldNetDaily ^ | October 12, 2005 | Dave Daubenmire

Posted on 10/12/2005 6:25:03 AM PDT by SmartCitizen

It has been nine days since President Bush shocked the world with his nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court of the United States. Like so many, I have spent the past week trying to get a take and establish a position on this out-of-left-field selection.

Many "conservatives," whatever that term means, have pointed out reasons to oppose the nomination. Whether it be cronyism, lack of a paper trail, poor legal qualifications, past political contributions, the reasons to not support her are varied and valid.

As all of the cable news shows have ramped up their coverage of the nomination "fight," I have watched with disgust, the same tired old faces marched out by the media to give us the "Christian" position on Ms. Miers. From Rev. Falwell, to Pat Robertson, James Dobson to Jay Sekulow, like good soldiers they have marched before the cameras, saluted and justified the president's choice.

According to the online version of The Chattanoogan:

Mr. Falwell also stated he trusts President Bush's judgment and will work for Miers' nomination against what he sees as the hard-line Democratic opposition in the Senate, consisting mainly of Sens. Hillary Clinton, Edward Kennedy, Chuck Schumer and Richard Durban, who "would vote no on Jesus."

Focus on The Family leader James Dobson added:

We welcome the president's nomination of Harriet Miers to the U.S. Supreme Court. He pledged emphatically during his campaign to appoint judges who will interpret the law rather than create it. He also promised to select competent judges who will "not use the bench to write social policy." To this point, President Bush's appointments to the federal bench appear to have been remarkably consistent with that stated philosophy. Based on the information known generally about Harriet Miers, and President Bush's personal knowledge of her, we believe that she will not prove to be a lone exception.

Pat Robertson on "The 700 Club":

Ladies and gentlemen, no more Souters. And I applaud the president. I think on this one, so far, every single pick of the president of judicial nominees has been superb. Every single one. And I think he deserves our trust on this one. He knows this woman. He promised the American electorate, if you elect me, I'm going to put in strict constructionist judges, and he's going to fulfill that vow to the American people. And this pick is in keeping with that vow.

Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice chimed in:

President Bush has worked with Harriet Miers for over a decade. She has served as his personal counsel, and has served as White House counsel. So he knows her and he knows how she thinks.

Like the proverbial elephant in the living room, why will no one say what is obvious to everyone? The debate is not over Harriet Miers. No my friends, the debate is far more obvious and glaring. Our "Christian leaders" have invested so much into President Bush, it is hard for them to come-to-grips with the obvious.

"Trust me," says the president.

"Trust him", say Falwell, Dobson, Sekulow and Robertson.

That is why Harriet Miers is in trouble. Not because we don't trust her, but because we don't trust him.

I like President Bush. He seems like a decent enough guy. I believe him when he talks about his conversion to Christ. I think he is genuine. I think Jesus changed his life, as he did mine. But I know many "Christians" like him. They have accepted Christ's forgiveness, but they have not accepted his Lordship. I'm sorry, but saying Jesus changed your life, does not qualify one for unconditional Christian support. Jesse Jackson makes that claim. So does Al Sharpton. Bill Clinton carried a Bible to church. The last I checked, it is the truth that sets us free. I have the courage to say what few Christians are willing to utter: We don't trust the president.

That is why Harriet Miers is in trouble.

I watched in 2003 as a true Christian, Judge Roy Moore, stood for his faith. It cost him his job. Christian President Bush did nothing to support Christian Judge Moore. He later named Moore's chief prosecutor, "conservative" Bill Pryor, to the federal bench.

I watched as the president continued to call Islam a religion of peace. I cowered as he repeatedly stated that Christians and Muslims serve the same God. He invited Ozzy Osborne to the White House and said nothing as his party welcomed former porn star Mary Carey and vile rapper Kid Rock.

He has publicly stated that he is against an abortion ban, that he won't have an abortion litmus test for judges and that he supports the states granting homosexuals civil unions.

He, along with others, told us the war on terror was about WMDs in Iraq. When none were found, it became about regime change. When Saddam was ousted, it became a war for democracy. He instituted the unconstitutional Patriot Act, but called the Minuteman project, those gallant patriots securing our borders "vigilantes."

His fiscal policies have brought America to the brink of bankruptcy, only to open America's coffers to a $250 billion give away to America's cesspool, New Orleans.

He is one of us, our Christian leaders tell us, and Harriet Miers thinks like him.

God help us!

The church and church leaders have failed us. Psalm 20:7 says, "Some trust in chariots, some trust in horses, but we will remember the name of the Lord."

Sadly, our Christian leadership has invested way to much into Republicanism in general, and President Bush in particular. Trusting in horses and chariots, they have been willing to hold their nose as they swallowed the rotten fruit of the Bush administration, knowing that it has always been about the Supreme Court. They couldn't let John Kerry fill those sure-to-open judgeships. They knew he had a litmus test on abortion. So they looked the other way as the rotten fruit piled up.

Someone once described politics as the art of compromise. After a decade of working, Falwell and company finally found a place at the table. The president conferred with them, he asked their opinions, he even prayed with them. The church finally mattered in the White House.

But at what cost? I am reminded of the story of King David and Nathan in II Samuel 12:7, after Nathan, the Church, confronts David, the government, about his un-godly actions.

Then David's anger was greatly kindled against the man; and he said to Nathan, "As the Lord lives, the man who has done this deserves to die; and he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity." Nathan said to David, "You are the man."

Yes, President Bush is the man. Can you imagine the reaction from the Christian leaders if President Kerry shouldered the Bush legacy?

I feel you cringing as I speak against our Christian golden boy. "How can you speak out against this Christian man?" they ask me. Because I am a Christian. My loyalty is to Christ, not to the Republican Party.

I watched in horror as the Democrats looked the other way in the '90s. Monica, semen stains, Whitewater, impeachment, nothing would break their blind partisan support of the Clinton White House. It's time we Christians got the log out of our own political eye. This may come to you as a shock, but God is not a Republican!

It is not about Harriet Miers. She may be a great justice, a solid Christian, and the right person at the right time. But that is not the issue. It is about President Bush and what the church has allowed him to do.

Now, Judge Moore is running for governor of Alabama. The Republican establishment doesn't like him, because he hasn't yet learned how to compromise. He won't play the game. Dr. Dobson supported him, but most in Christian circles labeled him a lawbreaker. He stands for Truth. He'll win because the people of Alabama trust him.

Isn't it ironic? If Judge Moore were president and he had nominated Harriet Miers, asking us to "trust him," it would be so much easier to do. If he said that she would be a great justice because she thought like him, we would know what he meant.

President Bush says, "Trust me … she thinks like me."

That's what scares me.


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To: antisocial
I trust him to suck up to the Democrats ever chance he gets. He would rather offend his base than to ever offend the Democrats.

This is an ignorant statement. Deal with it.

161 posted on 10/12/2005 9:23:18 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Hysteria, hatred, and emotional confusion are NOT of God!)
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To: SmartCitizen
ZOT

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162 posted on 10/12/2005 9:25:47 AM PDT by scott0347 (Commander of the 0347th Lancer Brigade, Operator of the Immaculate Steamroller)
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To: 1rudeboy

Why should I have to explain the article to you read it for yourself.


163 posted on 10/12/2005 9:31:58 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: TheForceOfOne

"Look in the mirror genius, and let me know if Albert Einstein winks back.."

Sorry, but this president has done so many LIBERAL things in the past few years i'm just not that inclined to trust him on much of anything. Wonder what her feelings are on border enforcement?


164 posted on 10/12/2005 9:38:24 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: ohioWfan

"This is an ignorant statement. Deal with it."

ROTFLOL, Wow, now you have really bested me, I'm just not smart enough to argue with that kind of logic. :)


165 posted on 10/12/2005 9:46:03 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial
You can't convince the educated people on this forum that he's a liberal with that list..........because you failed to include the majority of the things he's done..... which are conservative.......like tax cuts, and being pro-life, pro-military, standing up to the UN, and the World Court........and that's just the 'tip of the iceberg.'

You lose the argument no matter how you slice it, antisocial. President Bush is not a 'liberal.'

And you can't make him so just because everything he's done hasn't been conservative. And your statement that he would rather please the Dems than his 'base' was just dumb.

166 posted on 10/12/2005 9:49:33 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Hysteria, hatred, and emotional confusion are NOT of God!)
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To: antisocial
Ignorant...........lacking information.

You haven't got a clue as to what President Bush would 'rather' do, or who he's trying to please.

You are ignorant of his motives, and your making a statement as though it were fact is not only illogical, but inappropriate.

Deal with it.

167 posted on 10/12/2005 9:52:12 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Hysteria, hatred, and emotional confusion are NOT of God!)
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To: JFC
I trust W.

I do too. I trust him to disappoint his base on a vast array of issues.

168 posted on 10/12/2005 9:57:37 AM PDT by Protagoras (The "Patriot Act" ain't about patriotism)
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To: jackieaxe
I'm still glad George Bush is president.

I'm still glad John Kerry is not president.

Which of course isn't the same thing as being glad that Bush is.

169 posted on 10/12/2005 10:00:07 AM PDT by Protagoras (The "Patriot Act" ain't about patriotism)
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To: Calpernia
I trust President Bush.

To do what?

I trust Harriet Miers.

Based on what? Ever heard of her before she was nominated?

170 posted on 10/12/2005 10:04:51 AM PDT by Protagoras (The "Patriot Act" ain't about patriotism)
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To: Protagoras

Yup


171 posted on 10/12/2005 10:13:23 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SmartCitizen

You know. There was a show on about Israel the other day and how our Current President was very against the wall that Israel was building and such. Talked about a palestinian state. I think America is going to suffer and is beginning to for our presidents lack of support for israel. God gave the land to Irael. That's it. We're in big trouble over this.


172 posted on 10/12/2005 10:18:27 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: ohioWfan

"You haven't got a clue as to what President Bush would 'rather' do, or who he's trying to please."

Well, maybe not but, I certainly can suspect. I suspect he's trying to please Vincente Fox, by working hard to keep the borders wide open to illegal aliens that are flooding the country so they can just keep coming. I suspect he cares more for what big business thinks because they keep sending donations so they can keep the slave labor coming.

Suppose you enlighten me as to who you think Bush is trying to please with his SC nominations, it certainly doesen't seem to have pleased most of the conservative commentators.


173 posted on 10/12/2005 10:55:12 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: antisocial
You voted for George Bush for many years prior to 2004 when you state you voted for him again. We make our choices and live with them. You had options but apparently voted for the president after being presented the best options to conform to your views.

Everyone has the right to voice their opinion but that is not what bothers me, the bastardizing of the president is beyond the pale, and it is not the right way to go about it.

His record on judicial nominees to date is good, we are not all perfect and it is my belief he has chosen a conservative to be the next Supreme Court Justice. It is the authority of the president to do so and that right was given to him by our vote.

The social culture of Washington D.C. is your real enemy which is liberal and has succeeded in altering the views of those who were selected under the presumption they were conservatives.

The president made his choice after considering all factors such as the weak Republicans in Congress who he cannot count on. What the pundits, the polls, or some MSM outlets thinks is irrelevant.

I do not support the presidents position on all issues but I don't go around biting off my nose to spite my face. The RINO's in Congress must go but the natural progression by a country moving from liberalism to conservatism will create a time when moderates/RINO's/Mavericks have a home. If we stick together and press the issues together we can replace these RINO's with real conservatives and provide the future Republican presidents with a real position of advantage to due our bidding.

This infighting helps know one but the Democrats. I believe in the movement and I believe in the president. If he doesn't reflect our view on a certain issue we express our dismay but not like this.

The president may find out he has two more selections due before his second term is over and by that time the opinions of Miers will be available which is the ultimate and maybe the only way we will be able to properly judge her.

If the Democrats realize that she is a real conservative who follows the strict interpretation of the Constitution in spite of all the fears then panic on the left will set in as the replacement of Liberals Stevens or Ginsburg become the real war to prevent their total demise for decades.

If Miers does fail us with her decisions then it was a draw and we still have the ability to control the Supreme Court with the replacement of Liberals Stevens or Ginsburg, so either way we control our own destiny despite all the fears.

People like McCain, and other Republican hacks are their because they were elected by us, they are at the bottom of the problem, and they will be until we vote them out.

You mentioned the border and I saw this webpage today if you're interested.

We Need A Fence
174 posted on 10/12/2005 10:57:47 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (It was a village of idiots that raised Hillary to Senator status.)
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To: antisocial
Why should I have to explain the article to you read it for yourself.

Let's review what your argument appears to be, shall we? (Since you are unable or unwilling to do the same).

It is inappropriate to point out the article is poorly written, because Roy Moore received an unconstitutional order from a district judge, and despite the fact that the writer does not address the issue himself. Moreover, George W. Bush cannot be trusted because a porn star visited the White House.

175 posted on 10/12/2005 11:03:21 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Calpernia
Let's review;

I trust President Bush.

" To do what?"

Yup

I trust Harriet Miers.

" Based on what?"

Yup

" Ever heard of her before she was nominated?"

Yup

Well, at least the last one answers a question which was asked, not very well, but answered none-the-less.

The answers shed light on the first post.

176 posted on 10/12/2005 11:47:00 AM PDT by Protagoras (The "Patriot Act" ain't about patriotism)
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To: scott0347

Wow, he's gone. Wonder why the Mods did that? /sarc

177 posted on 10/12/2005 1:14:25 PM PDT by PilloryHillary (Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.)
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To: Protagoras
I'm still glad George Bush is president, however, I do understand your point and would say "glad" is a relative term such as "close" or "near". I can say I'm ecstatic about John Kerry not being President, and I would be gladder if Pat Buchanan was President. I believe George Bush to be a good man who does his best and usually I agree with him.
178 posted on 10/12/2005 1:46:05 PM PDT by jackieaxe (English speaking, law abiding, taxpaying citizen)
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To: PilloryHillary
Wow, he's gone. Wonder why the Mods did that? /sarc

Indeed. He DARED to question Dubya. We can't have that.

179 posted on 10/12/2005 3:18:01 PM PDT by GluteusMax
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To: SmartCitizen

180 posted on 10/12/2005 3:56:46 PM PDT by TNPatriot (If we aren't the mainstream, why do we nearly control all three branches of Government?)
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