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Lies My Teacher Told Me: The True History of the War for Southern Independence
http://www.abbevilleinstitute.org ^ | July 22, 2014 | Clyde Wilson

Posted on 05/12/2015 3:00:03 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

We Sons of Confederate Veterans are charged with preserving the good name of the Confederate soldier. The world, for the most part, has acknowledged what Gen. R. E. Lee described in his farewell address as the “valour and devotion” and “unsurpassed courage and fortitude” of the Confederate soldier. The Stephen D. Lee Institute program is dedicated to that part of our duty that charges us not only to honour the Confederate soldier but “to vindicate the cause for which he fought.” We are here to make the case not only for the Confederate soldier but for his cause. It is useless to proclaim the courage, skill, and sacrifice of the Confederate soldier while permitting him to be guilty of a bad cause.

Although their cause was lost it was a good cause and still has a lot to teach the world today.

In this age of Political Correctness there has never been a greater need and greater opportunity to refresh our understanding of what happened in America in the years 1861–1865 and start defending our Southern forebears as strongly as they ought to be defended. There is plenty of true history available to us. It is our job to make it known.

All the institutions of American society, including nearly all Southern institutions and leaders, are now doing their best to separate the Confederacy off from the rest of American history and push it into one dark little corner labeled “ Slavery and Treason.” Being taught at every level of the educational system is the official party line that everything good that we or anyone believe about our Confederate ancestors is a myth, and by myth they mean a pack of lies that Southerners thought up to excuse their evil deeds and defeat.

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KEYWORDS: dixie; finos; ntsa; whitesupremacists; whitesupremacy
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To: jeffersondem
I highlighted Article X because it demonstrates the off-axis thinking of radical northerners who had insisted on fighting an optional war against the South and the U. S. Constitution.

I'm always amused by the southern position that they could claim the protection of the Constitution while simultaneously repudiating it.

441 posted on 06/11/2015 10:45:45 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Indeed, what an amusing position he has taken.

He engages in far to much name calling to be taken seriously.


442 posted on 06/11/2015 10:38:25 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Pikachu_Dad

“He engages in far to much name calling . . .”

When I saw this it didn’t seem like something that needed an immediate response so I put it aside for a couple of days to gain more perspective. Just for the tally book, can you cite examples of my name calling?


443 posted on 06/14/2015 10:11:24 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: NKP_Vet

LOL ... and Jessie Helms never sang ‘Dixie’ and those in the elevator didn’t understand ...


444 posted on 06/15/2015 5:36:46 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Do what is Right ... It causes liberal heads to explode!)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
“He engages in far to much name calling . . .”

“When I saw this it didn’t seem like something that needed an immediate response so I put it aside for a couple of days to gain more perspective. Just for the tally book, can you cite examples of my name calling?”

I didn't think so.

445 posted on 06/17/2015 10:46:51 AM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Resolute Conservative

Three years into the war?

War started April, 1861.

Preliminary Emancipation proclamation issues September, 1862. That’s 17 months.

Final EP issues January, 1863. That’s 21 months.

What calendar are you using, that 17 or 21 months constitutes 3 years?


446 posted on 07/03/2015 4:11:00 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: editor-surveyor

The Whig Party fell apart in the mid-1850s. Thereafter, the South, predominantly Democrat previously, became exclusively so.

The 1860 South was a one-party region. In the 1860 election, the Republicans weren’t even on the ballot in most southern states.


447 posted on 07/03/2015 4:12:56 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: jmacusa

Post #2 LOL


448 posted on 07/03/2015 4:14:13 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: bruoz
I read somewhere the Seward advised Lincoln to start a war with Britain and conquer Canada instead of fighting a war with the South over slavery.

Seward's somewhat idiotic notion was for the USA to pick a fight with UK. This would cause a great outburst of patriotism in southern states, which would de-secede from the CSA, rejoining the Union to fight Britain.

Wouldn't have worked, of course. Southern strategy for gaining independence was largely based on the idea that UK would support it to get the cotton it needed.

449 posted on 07/03/2015 4:16:37 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
I'm always amused by the southern position that they could claim the protection of the Constitution while simultaneously repudiating it.

And I'm always amused by the lincoln/yankee apologists. Do you also defend 0bama's Constitutional violations?

The home page of FR has a quote from the Declaration of Independence, part of which is:

"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

What part of the above do you disagree with? Is it your yankee opinion that governments control The People and not that they govern by the consent of The People?

Amazing that after all these years you're still clinging to the same pathetic ideology of oppressive central government statism.

The war between the Southern States and the US Federal Government was a political war. The battle was between State Rights/Sovereignty and Statism. The Statist won.

The reason why we never hear you or your pathetic polemic posse complain about 0bama is because you are happy about the present situation.

450 posted on 07/31/2015 7:07:51 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway

Hey, cowboy, long time. You gonna post some more pictures of all your stuff?


451 posted on 07/31/2015 9:10:29 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: cowboyway
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government

How many of "the People" of the United States are required to alter or abolish the government? Can an individual declare himself to be another country? What about a city block? A county? Is it only states? What about the fact that some counties have populations and areas larger than some states?

452 posted on 07/31/2015 9:42:32 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Hey, cowboy, long time. You gonna post some more pictures of all your stuff?

You're still interested in 'my stuff'? Perhaps you should seek some therapy.

453 posted on 07/31/2015 10:44:56 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway
You're still interested in 'my stuff'? Perhaps you should seek some therapy.

You're the one who kept posting pictures of how much stuff you've got, apparently compensating for something.

454 posted on 07/31/2015 10:50:51 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
How many of "the People" of the United States are required to alter or abolish the government? Can an individual declare himself to be another country? What about a city block? A county? Is it only states? What about the fact that some counties have populations and areas larger than some states?

I have a reading assignment for you:

The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States by The Founding Fathers.

A Constitutional History of Secession by John Remington Graham.

Rethinking the American Union for the Twenty First Century edited by Donald Livingston.

455 posted on 07/31/2015 10:55:48 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway

So you can’t answer the questions for yourself?


456 posted on 07/31/2015 10:58:30 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: cowboyway

And by the way, I’m still looking forward to the day a secessionist platform even runs for election, much less wins one.


457 posted on 07/31/2015 11:01:13 AM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
apparently compensating for something.

Pathetic. The standard mantra of the losers and perpetual victim class.

Some things just don't change............

458 posted on 07/31/2015 11:01:30 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
So you can’t answer the questions for yourself?

I answered the questions by giving you a reading assignment. Now, stop with the red herrings and get busy.

459 posted on 07/31/2015 11:03:20 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: cowboyway

Well, you certainly haven’t changed.


460 posted on 07/31/2015 2:43:49 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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