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Our Heritage of Hate
The Bucks County Courier Times ^ | August 28, 2014 | Chuck Thompson, Community Blogger

Posted on 08/28/2014 3:47:25 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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41 posted on 08/28/2014 6:49:34 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: jmacusa

Good point. In fact, the Indians thought they were pulling a fast one by trading the land for blankets and beads, etc.

They thought they were getting something for nothing since everyone knew that you didn’t own the land.


42 posted on 08/28/2014 6:54:08 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: miss marmelstein

See our numbers, from the latest sources, in “A Patriot’s History of the United States.” This is tripe.


43 posted on 08/28/2014 7:16:59 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: driftless2

See our sidebar “Did Columbus Kill All the Indians” in our “Patriot’s History of the United States.” The number in the US/Mexico is now put at 15-40m (numbers vary wildly).


44 posted on 08/28/2014 7:20:06 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: miss marmelstein

Long before Columbus landed, okay he didn’t get to the mainland... the native population was reduced by war and disease amongst themselves. Their population had been reduced from - maybe that many - to much much much less. They may have gone from a more advanced state to one of pretty primitive in a matter of 2 or 3 generations.

THEN the “white man” came....


45 posted on 08/28/2014 7:20:19 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: driftless2

Er, that’s 15-40m existing, total, in N and Central America


46 posted on 08/28/2014 7:21:10 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Caipirabob

It’s standard leftist drivel. We cover this in our sidebar “Did Columbus Kill All the Indians” in “Patriot’s History of the United States” and my book “48 Liberal Lies” which has a chapter on this.


47 posted on 08/28/2014 7:25:25 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The German spoke of “decades” of responsibility for the Holocaust. We have had many decades since the end of the Civil War, and many decades since the Civil Rights Acts. I’d say enough decades have passed for everyone to stand on his own two feet. Racism persists, but not all of us are responsible for it. Go after those who actually practice racism.


48 posted on 08/28/2014 7:27:20 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: LS

Er.....I said north of the Rio grande.


49 posted on 08/28/2014 7:50:57 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless2

Unfortunately, if you look at the sidebar in my book, most demographic historians and demographers don’ t make that distinction. Could be one that I missed. Most of them in their “North American” estimates include modern day Mexico.


50 posted on 08/28/2014 8:26:14 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS
Mexico and the Aztecs had cities with stone buildings, infrastructure, cultivation of large amounts of land, etc. Those are the hallmarks of large populations. Nothing like that existed north of the Rio Grande. Some historians, whose names I can't recall, for obvious political reasons try to dramatically increase the numbers north of the Rio Grande.

I had a sociology prof. in college who was a hysterical (he thought the Bush I admin was trying to murder the Indians) advocate of immense Indian populations in the area of the present U.S. His "specialty" was/is N. American Indians, and he occasionally gets his articles printed in the local rag. He never presented any proof, and I've never seen any proof that Indian populations were any more than 2-3 million. No big cities, no huge stationary populations, no remains of millions of people.

51 posted on 08/28/2014 9:15:50 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless2

I understand, but I’m telling you that even the numbers of the groups you mention have been steadily revised downward. My point is that TOTAL numbers have been moved downward decade by decade.


52 posted on 08/28/2014 9:45:52 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LS

Thanks I just looked up your book and plan to buy it.


53 posted on 08/28/2014 11:08:18 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: LS
"revised downward"

I won't disagree.

54 posted on 08/28/2014 11:24:26 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: miss marmelstein

The Deerfield Massacre in the early 1600s showed they had fight in them; they just didn’t have the numbers. They played an active role before and throughout the Revolution (I’ve seen the site of the massacre at Ellenville NY where they joined with Tories); afterwards it was just a slow push westward for them...


55 posted on 08/28/2014 2:27:06 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: jmacusa

There certainly is no justification for evicting them from it, even if they were just “borrowing it” from Mother Earth and Father Moon...


56 posted on 08/28/2014 2:29:52 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

I’ve been to Deerfield and seen the burial mound there. Quite sad - beautiful country.


57 posted on 08/28/2014 2:47:09 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard III: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: kearnyirish2

Dude, who in the hell said it was ‘’their’’ land? They migrated here from somewhere else too and they were hardly ‘’the happy children of the forest’’, ok? I’m sick of hearing what ‘’we’’ did to the Indians. Point of fact I didn’t do squat to them and in the long European emigration didn’t do them too bad at that.. The horse, firearms, iron and steel implements and casino gambling.


58 posted on 08/28/2014 5:18:14 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did I miss the MEGA SUPER DOOPER BARF ALERT?


59 posted on 08/28/2014 5:27:00 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: jmacusa

I didn’t do anything to them; it was “their land” by the fact that they were living on it, then forced off. Sort of you like if someone came onto your land and pushed you off (with extreme prejudice if necessary).

I have no illusions about what life was like in pre-Columbian America, and hardly presented it as “happy”.


60 posted on 08/28/2014 7:54:49 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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