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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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Comment #4,701 Removed by Moderator

To: Kevmo
That is good advice to your friend. She’s been pinged to 2 recent threads on judaism and can spread her wares over there in the religion forum where it belongs and she won’t be accused of hijacking the thread.

Wait a minute . . . I thought you hijacked the thread by trying to convert her? I'm confused!

I prefer not to post in the "smoky backroom" to begin with. I'm far too puritanical.

4,702 posted on 08/17/2012 1:19:51 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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Comment #4,703 Removed by Moderator

To: Zionist Conspirator

BTW, your friend just lied, pretending to quote me but when you go to the post she linked to, that quote isn’t even close. She should take your advice.


4,704 posted on 08/17/2012 1:20:47 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya; gortklattu
The former Mormons and others with identity issues made it about Romney’s religion and not his politics.

And...the self-proclaimed Jew with identity issues made it about using Judaism to defend mormonism.

4,705 posted on 08/17/2012 1:28:05 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: Kevmo; sf4dubya
BTW, your friend just lied, pretending to quote me but when you go to the post she linked to, that quote isn’t even close. She should take your advice.

All right. I don't know her any more than I know you. In fact, to the best of my knowledge, I've never noticed her screen name here before. And I've only noticed yours because it's almost the same as a lefty "blues singer."

I don't have the slightest idea what you two are arguing about and after this latest little episode of "he hit me first, ma!" I have no desire to.

Both of you stop pinging me. At once. Any future pings will be ignored and maybe even reported as abuse.

Two FReepers should know better than to behave this way. Farewell.

4,707 posted on 08/17/2012 1:28:42 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I stopped responding to her posts due to dishonesty. That’s when she pinged you, for some support.

And now here you are, coming onto this thread without reading it, not even reading the exchange between me & your friend, and posting stuff about judaism and how this country was founded and all kinds of interesting but irrelevant stuff in terms of this thread.

You can peruse my posts on this thread and decide for yourself if it was hijacking. There’s no rule nor law against trying to convert a jew. In fact, we are commanded to preach the good news to all, and jews were the first to hear it.

So... are you aware of the historical fact that Jesus claimed to be God in front of the Sanhedrin? Even his enemies acknowledge that claim. And we christians uphold Jesus as God Himself, but mormons deny the deity of christ. The big brouhaha was over why JimRob posted the last paragraph of the article starting this thread, and a bunch of ABOs jumped in trying to defend mormonism because... there’s a mormon presumptive GOP nominee. Your friend thinks we shouldn’t be confronting such false teachings even though Jesus called false teachers “sons of the devil” in His day.


4,708 posted on 08/17/2012 1:30:43 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

And I’ve only noticed yours because it’s almost the same as a lefty “blues singer.”
***You’re one of the first freepers who gets that.


4,710 posted on 08/17/2012 1:32:23 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
This thread is linked all over the Internet.

Put an end to the bigotry now.

sf4dubya has spent days using Judaism for her own purposes on this thread. So now, she is trying to get the thread pulled?

Please don't fall for it, JR.

4,711 posted on 08/17/2012 1:32:46 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: sf4dubya
Put an end to the bigotry now.

Then you need to leave the thread.

4,712 posted on 08/17/2012 1:32:51 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: sf4dubya

This was never said.

“don’t ever listen to the Jews because they lie”

4,713 posted on 08/17/2012 1:34:30 PM PDT by roylene (Salvation the great Gift of Grace.)
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To: greyfoxx39; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator

Jim I’m compiling evidence from this thread. Please don’t pull it yet. It might be very enlightening to you in the long run.


4,714 posted on 08/17/2012 1:34:30 PM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: sf4dubya

“You have no respect for Judaism, or freedom of religion. You and a handful of others took a sound political discussion and turned it into a religious one. You think Jews are infected with a strain of liberalism with your trolling and faith tests, and don’t belong in the Conservative movement. Then when defended, you call my whole religion a lie out of ignorance because your faith isn’t strong at all — it’s been hodgepodged together from changing texts and no formal belief system or Church.

There is zero love for your faith in your words. Am I to think all Christians agree with you? Just remember: YOU tried to convert ME and FAILED. We did NOT debate conservative issues, but religious ones. Why? Religious purity? Christian identity issues? What’s really behind these anti-”every religion but mine” rants of yours?”


Judging from your reactions, I suspect the most intolerant person here is you. I certainly couldn’t care less if someone “succeeded” in converting you, but I wouldn’t stand by and say nothing as you pretend there is a conspiracy to throw you out because someone uttered the name of Jesus Christ. I also wouldn’t stay silent in correcting your errors, either. It has nothing to do with you and everything to do with responding to the things you say. Too many Jewish persons, at least the ones who have been going crazy these past few days, when it comes to any religious discussion, make it very personal and immediately embrace victimhood as a method to shutup those who they disagree with.


4,715 posted on 08/17/2012 1:37:40 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Graybeard58; EternalVigilance

How do you propose to prevent too many conservative candidates from entering the primaries in the future?
***Here are my thoughts about the primary system. I’ve had this on my home page for about 5 years.

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Here’s how I think primaries should be organized:

My suggestion is basically to hold the first primary in the state that has the highest percentage of GOP votes in the last election, the 2nd primary in the 2nd highest, and so on. 2 primaries a week for 25 weeks, with the last primaries being the suckup-to-the-democrats. And the democrats could easily have their primary schedule the same way, if they wanted.

This way, if a state is 60% republican, there is still incentive for them to get out the vote for 61% republican so they can bump up their state in the primary schedule.

Also: Rotate all the states (even the big ones) through an early schedule so that everyone gets access at some point to the front line.

OR

Let each state bid when they want their primary to take place. The earlier the primary, the fewer the delegates they control according to some logarithmic or steep curve formula.

18 posted on Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:55:08 AM by Kevmo (We need to get rid of the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. ~Duncan Hunter) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962610/posts?page=18#18

Second thing is the order of the primaries should be determined by the percentage of republicans in the last vote. The higher the %pubbie, the sooner the state appears on the primary schedule, with a mix of big & little states and our staunchest republican states get to go FIRST. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965735/posts?page=862#862

24 posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 8:52:29 PM by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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4,716 posted on 08/17/2012 1:40:09 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: sf4dubya

Panicking a little are you SF? WAaahhhh...Mommie! After your bashing other FReepers for days, NOW you want to be saved.


4,717 posted on 08/17/2012 1:41:26 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: BlackElk
I'm saving this as a go-to quote:

When this year's election is history, no matter WHO wins, conservatives must unite to destroy the winner starting on election night and to undermine, reject and replace the "GOP" leadership in each house of Congress and to systematically exterminate politically as many spineless moderates in House and Senate as possible, using third party candidates as necessary to discipline the offenders. Are you willing to help with that??? -- BlackElk

4,719 posted on 08/17/2012 1:48:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The Holy Catholic Church: the more Catholic it is, the more Holy it is.")
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To: greyfoxx39

Repeating:

Mormons believe in many things that are antithetical to our Christian belief - all the while maintaining that they themselves are the “super Christian” and yes I (colorcountry) can provide a quote by an LDS Freeper who said exactly that)

If we left their version of God unchallenged, if we left their ideas of heaven unchallenged, it would signal our acceptance. Thomas Jefferson obviously thought it important that free argument of our beliefs not be impinged. JimRob is allowing argument to maintain our opinion of OUR religion on his site in a truly Jeffersonian spirit.

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Those of you who wish to deny us that right should ask themselves why and to what ends.


4,720 posted on 08/17/2012 1:50:40 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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