Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
How about the initial ping?
Ping to thread requesting any evidence that Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf are the parents of Barry, in case you hadn't seen it.
I wasn't being asked to provide any information, I was being told that the thread existed.
Any more lies from you?
That's rich!
hey, STUPID. the only person he addressed it to, was YOU.
“requesting any evidence” - no, that’s not asking for information, in those exact words. Ever thought about going to school and learning something since you’re out of work?
Any other questions?
Ever thought about going to school and learning something since you’re out of work?
Yep, any set back to your smear campaign and you go right back to the petty, childish sniping.
Any progress on your comment denouncing this theory?
Ah, the nebulous "they". Who is "they", Mr. Secrecy?
The book publishers?
Where is your denunciation of this theory?
Nothing there says there haven’t been any sales. So you made it up.
Actually, I have. In fact you even made a stupid reply earlier, quoting part of what I said.
Where? Funny how you can manage to provide links to some things yet other things...a great big nothing burger.
Where is it? What specific reply?
I asked a question. I asked if this was an effort to improve sales of a stalled or stagnant book.
Again you're trying to twist my words into something I didn't say.
Perhaps you're the one in need of schooling and that's why you insinuate I need it.
Just more psychological projection on your part.
Short term memory loss is a sign of depression.
Maybe you should visit the Spindletop Center.
ARE YOU REALLY THAT STUPID?
No as stupid as you as you see things that aren't there.
or is that his way of calling a troll?
I don't think he would have a problem calling me a troll if he thought I was one.
you and your bff have a secret code?
I don't have a bff here at FR. My bff away from FR and I do indeed have a secret code in case either of us are ever in any kind of trouble.
Didn't you ever have any codes in your family?
Haven't you ever hung a hanger on a doorknob?
Well then who is this nebulous “they”?
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