This is the second part of that form dated August 31, 1961, he was asking for permission to work and an extension of his student visa.
Posted on 08/01/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
"Meet The Parents....of alias Barack Obama. Black Sunni Muslim father and White Lebanese Christian mother. Born in the ME, raised in Indonesia, became BHO II in 1982." Dr. Ron J. Polland
The “Mal-Val” youtube video at the link was posted by FReeper Polarik (Dr. Ron Polland) in August of 2011 and while morphing the image of a woman named “Val” into an image of Obama, he insinuates that “Val” is Obama’s mom. One year later this youtube has only 1,150 views.
In July 2012, two FReepers associated the woman, “Val,” in Polarik’s Youtube with Lebanese actress Valerie Sarruf and have posted multiple images of her at various ages on FR eligibility threads. I am opening this thread to invite discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf is Barack Obama’s mother, with or without Malcolm X being his father.
Where could Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf have been in 1960 when baby Barry would have been conceived? Is there any evidence that Sarruf could have been pregnant and delivered a baby in 1961? In what country could the baby have been delivered? How and when could the alleged Mal-Val baby have been inserted into the identity and life narrative of the person we have come to know as Barack Hussein Obama?
Full disclosure: I refute categorically all of the Mal-Val narrative as wildly speculative and unsupported by any evidence that I have seen so far.
For several years now a shadowy coterie of FReepers styling themselves as “researchers” has gone onto nearly every FR eligibility thread to aggressively refute all evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham was Barack Obama’s mother. They have actually declared flat out that she was never in Hawaii before 1963, contrary to the voluminous evidence including INS FOIA documents!
Requests for links or any evidence that Stanley Ann is NOT the mom have been frequently met with abusive ad hominem attacks and accompanied by claims that ALL documentary evidence showing her to have been in Hawaii in 1960 and 1961 is forged, but no credible evidence of forgery has offered. I make this observation as a retired Certified Fraud Examiner and CPA.
For years the “researchers” had claimed mysteriously to have conclusive evidence that a different woman is Barry’s mom, but refused to reveal her name or any evidence other than her picture because the “researchers” claimed it would disappear from the net and/or from hard copy archives of the records. But this month, the “researchers” appear to have slipped up and revealed that Valerie Sarruf has been the woman whose identity they have been “protecting.” They have since attempted to walk back the revelation, but it is clear, IMO.
The “researchers” claim that they earnestly want to remove Obama from office. But wouldn’t revealing ALL EVIDENCE of a foreign mother and foreign birth (which they also claim) be the most logical approach to removing Obama rather than hiding the identity of this alternative mother for years while attacking FR threads that sincerely attempt to find out where Stanley Ann Dunham was when she gave birth to Barry?
In my opinion, the best evidence that Valerie Sarruf is NOT Barry’s mother is the mountain of evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham IS his mother, which the “researchers” have totally failed to refute.
Again, please use this thread for discussion of and links to any evidence that either supports or refutes a claim that Valerie Sarruf IS Barack Obama’s mother with or without Malcolm X being his father.
ROTFLOLPIMP!
Now that is funny!
Discussed with DDD & DD no reason to deny ext.
This is the second part of that form dated August 31, 1961, he was asking for permission to work and an extension of his student visa.
So the ddd people are superiors or something? Not important but I am not always quick on uptake etc.
No, it doesn’t strike me as strange that babies were being born at Kapi’olani Hospital while another newborn died at Wahaiwa General Hospital.
I can certainly understand why you don’t want to address the “Health Bureau Statistics” newspaper entries though.
She was born at Wahiawa and died at Kapiolani. Don’t needle me, it doesn’t work. I’ve addressed that issue so many times it’s become boring.
Why are you following me?
You asked me a question and I answered it.
“You asked me a question and I answered it.”
No you didn’t. I posted some questions about the INS documents and you came in out of nowhere and asked about the birth announcements.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2913366/posts?page=1738#1738
Then you quoted the wrong hospital. You’ve answered nothing.
You said: “Obviously doesn’t strike you as strange that the application for a birth certificate for a son of Mrs & Mrs Obama was lodged on the same day the death of the Sunahara child was announced...”
I answered: “No, it doesn’t strike me as strange that babies were being born at Kapi’olani Hospital while another newborn died at Wahaiwa General Hospital.”
A rhetorical question from you and a response from me.
Virginia Sunahara died at Kapiolani. If you’re going to be picky, get your facts straight. You might be making the same mistake as who-ever dumped Virginia’s document and replaced it with another application.
And you’ll end up as they did. Four numbers out of sequence.
Were you on night-shift?
No, I was working the day shift 52 years and 8 months ago! I remember it like it was yesterday.
Examples of August, 1961 Birth Certificate Registration Numbers from Kapi’olani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
Johanna Ah’Nee – 09945 – August 23rd
Nordyke, Susan – 10637 – August 5th
Nordyke, Gretchen – 10638 – August 5th
Obama, Barack – 10641 – August 4th
Sunahara, Virginia - 01180- August 4, 1961
Waidelich, Stig – 10920 – August 5th
By the way, there have been some Freepers who believe that Stig Waidelich’s birth certificate was used to produce Obama’s.
There have been 12 failed lawsuits in Hawaii courts concerning Obama’s birth certificate and his eligibility, including Sunahara v. Hawaii Department of Health. Hawaii state District Court: complaint seeking access to birth/death records of Virginia Sunahara based on their alleged connection to Obama’s eligibility; Dismissed, Appeal still pending since March of 2012.
No, I meant last night, when you responded to what I wrote. It must have been the middle of the night if you are in the US. That seems real dedicated.
Ah, I see. It was about midnight.
#1746 about three hours later? Couldn't sleep? No rest for the wicked or the weary?
That was 6.67pm where I am, eastern daylight saving time.
Dedicated...to be at it around three am. Of course you're welcome, anytime.
That post says posted at “12:47:15” and that is Pacific Daylight Time.
Even that is a bit later than I remember posting.
I’ve seen it somewhere that the FR clock isn’t quite spot-on.
It says:
1,746 posted on Wednesday, 2 April 2014 6:47:15 PM by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
at my end.
Good one, LOL.
I’m not thick just because I’m down under.
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