Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Our rights in crowded theaters (Please don't read while eating)
The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | July 22, 2012 | James Rowen

Posted on 07/22/2012 9:00:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Every American student who's taken a civic class has heard Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.'s admonition that free speech under the US Constitution doesn't give you the right to shout "fire" in a crowded theater.

So the right to bear arms under the 2nd amendment - - written at a time when citizen militias might be needed to fend off the British or a foreign power intent on undermining the new Republic - - shouldn't mean someone has the right to barge into a crowded theater, open fire and slaughter people with powerful guns and ammunition obtained legally.

Yet we have allowed the NRA and allied wealthy conservative organizations with political and electoral agendas to distort legitimate gun ownership for hunting purposes into gun ownership without effective controls that jeopardizes public safety.

Bill Moyers has an eloquent essay about this, here.

The proof is the disproportionate share of the industrialized world's gun violence that afflicts the US, year-in and year-out.

These massacres bring concern for victims, but no remedial controls: the Aurora shootings came but five years after a higher death toll in a mass shooting at Virginia Tech, and Colorado did not toughen its gun laws after the Columbine school killings not far from Aurora...

(Excerpt) Read more at jsonline.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aurora; banglist; colorado; occupy
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-109 next last
Please show me the "hunting" reference in the Second Amendment.
1 posted on 07/22/2012 9:00:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please tell me what laws would have prevented this.


2 posted on 07/22/2012 9:04:55 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.'s admonition that free speech under the US Constitution doesn't give you the right to shout "fire" in a crowded theater.

OWH was fos, you can do anything you want, what he neglected to say was that there are repercussions for doing it.

BTW, you can yell fire in a crowded theater with no repercussions...if there really is a fire.

In fact, if you knew there was a fire and didn't warn the peoples you would be responsible for the consequences.

3 posted on 07/22/2012 9:06:54 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bill Moyers has an eloquent essay about this, here.

*************

OXYMORON OF THE YEAR 2012

4 posted on 07/22/2012 9:07:13 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bill Moyers has an eloquent essay about this, here.

*************

OXYMORON OF THE YEAR 2012

5 posted on 07/22/2012 9:07:29 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Bill Moyers has an eloquent essay about this, here.

*************

OXYMORON OF THE YEAR 2012

6 posted on 07/22/2012 9:07:39 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

What are they talking about?

American students don’t take civics classes anymore. These kids today have no idea who Oliver Wendell Holmes was.


7 posted on 07/22/2012 9:08:09 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

What a turd. Does anyone disagree that “the right to bear arms under the 2nd amendment...shouldn’t mean someone has the right to barge into a crowded theater, open fire and slaughter people with powerful guns and ammunition obtained legally?”


8 posted on 07/22/2012 9:09:10 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

So what if someone DOES run into a theater and shouts, “FIRE!” What do we ban, his tonsils? Rowen is a moron.


9 posted on 07/22/2012 9:11:04 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Without the Second Amendment, the other twenty-six will cease to exist.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Las Vegas Ron

Tossing a handful of lit firecrackers into a Batman matinee this weekend would probably be prosecutable as a top-level felony.


10 posted on 07/22/2012 9:11:38 PM PDT by research99
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: research99
Tossing a handful of lit firecrackers into a Batman matinee this weekend would probably be prosecutable as a top-level felony.

And that has what to do with my comment?

11 posted on 07/22/2012 9:17:24 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will some Democrats try to push Obama into addressing gun control in the next few months?


12 posted on 07/22/2012 9:18:09 PM PDT by kempster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The proof is the disproportionate share of the industrialized world’s gun violence that afflicts the US, year-in and year-out. “

Stupid liberals. The only PROOF here is that liberals once again have proven they are violent idiots. We should ban liberalism and send them to re-education camps where we can deprogram them from the communist proganda they get day in and day out.


13 posted on 07/22/2012 9:20:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kempster
Will some Democrats try to push Obama into addressing gun control in the next few months?

I hope so, they lost the public on that issue more than a decade ago, and a presidential election (2000) to boot.

14 posted on 07/22/2012 9:20:52 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

What are they talking about?

American students don’t take civics classes anymore. These kids today have no idea who Oliver Wendell Holmes was.


15 posted on 07/22/2012 9:22:35 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the comment section, it doesn’t appear that MJS readers buy this crap either.


16 posted on 07/22/2012 9:22:42 PM PDT by digger48
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nothing could have prevented this.

The entitlement mentality fed by liberal politicians and the LSM have given people like Holmes the idea that they can do as they please. Hollywood is the fuse and liberal hatemongers are the fire.

Liberals scream gun control and one of their koolaid drinkers is more than willing to step-up and give them fuel for the fire. I find it strange that the moment a liberal pol. starts talking about GC, then something like this happens. Gabby Giffords was their first poster child. Now they will have 12 more innocents to add. Never let a crisis go to waste.

Sure took attention away from F&F and security leaks though.

God bless all the victims of this mad man.


17 posted on 07/22/2012 9:23:54 PM PDT by mardi59 (THE REBELLION IS ON!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer
So what if someone DOES run into a theater and shouts, “FIRE!” What do we ban, his tonsils? Rowen is a moron.

We could tape their mouth shut, so they could never speak again, forever.....many here justify that remedy for our 2A rights.

18 posted on 07/22/2012 9:25:12 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Americans respond:

Colorado Gun Sales Surge in Wake of Massacre

19 posted on 07/22/2012 9:27:22 PM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
jer45y@yahoo.com You should stick to hugging trees. Because you don't know jack shit about guns.
20 posted on 07/22/2012 9:27:22 PM PDT by digger48
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-109 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Smoky Backroom
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson