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Ron Paul Introduces Aviation Safety Legislation
Ron Paul's website ^ | 9-14-01 | Press Release

Posted on 09/14/2001 1:33:07 PM PDT by oursacredhonor

In the aftermath of Tuesday's terrorist bombings in New York and Washington, Congressman Ron Paul has introduced legislation designed to help airlines fight terrorism. The "Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001" insures that pilots and law enforcement personnel assigned to protect aircraft will be permitted to carry firearms. Specifically, the bill would allow airlines to establish policies for arming pilots or sky marshals, so they could protect their own lives and the lives of their passengers- as well as possibly thousands on the ground below.


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It isn't arming law-abiding citizens, which Ron Paul and many of us would want to do, however it is a much better solution than the authoritarian security measures being undertaken that will do absolutely no good. The only thing that these terrorist b@st@rds understand is a .45 slug between their eyes.


1 posted on 09/14/2001 1:33:07 PM PDT by oursacredhonor
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To: oursacredhonor, Cultural Jihad, OWK
RON PAUL BUMP!!!!!!

I like this man more every day.

2 posted on 09/14/2001 1:47:57 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
Since Sen. Graham is on his way back to Aggie land, now might be a good chance for Congressman Paul to make a move on the Senate.
3 posted on 09/14/2001 1:57:53 PM PDT by BJClinton
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To: Libertarians
Another Ron Paul (closet Libertarian) post; zzzzzzzzzzzzz........
4 posted on 09/14/2001 2:08:08 PM PDT by Malcolm
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To: Malcolm
Would you care to address the substance of his post, or are you too busy sleeping?
5 posted on 09/14/2001 2:10:16 PM PDT by freeeee
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To: oursacredhonor
If a pilot shoots a terrorist, the bullet will in all likelihood exit the body and perforate the airplane, causing the plane to depressurize and sending passengers to their deaths. I expect airlines to forbid passengers from bringing their luggage aboard from now on. In addition, high-speed trains are probably going to be developed. The benefit of these trains is that they can't be used to ram another target and that armed guards can be stationed aboard them. I never liked flying, anyway.
6 posted on 09/14/2001 2:11:29 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: Holden Magroin
MagSafe has good frangible ammo that doesn't overpenetrate, and Glaser's also pretty decent. Cor-Bon just bought Glaser, and also has its own frangible line.

Call the guns no more powerful than a .380 or 9mm, but the frangible rounds will stop a bad guy very nicely.

7 posted on 09/14/2001 2:14:39 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: BJClinton
I signed the petition to him, to urge him to run.
8 posted on 09/14/2001 2:39:41 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Malcolm
One difference in Ron and other, more staunch Libertarians, is that he faces reality and is not a simple objectivist. I have always supported his hard stances. He is a family values man, and completely anti-abortion. He is a bit more to the left on me on the drug issue, but he keeps that on a low profile.
9 posted on 09/14/2001 2:43:10 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: Holden Magroin
If a pilot shoots a terrorist, the bullet will in all likelihood exit the body and perforate the airplane, causing the plane to depressurize and sending passengers to their deaths.

Actually, no. There is a special type of round designed specifically for the sky marshalls that is low velocity and is soft enough not to penetrate the hull, while still doing serious damage to soft tissue. Also, as was pointed out by someone on another thread, based on the size of a .44 caliber round and the pressurization level of a typical flight, the hole could be patched with bubblegum until the plane could land. Don't use Hollywood for your scientific knowledge... ;)

10 posted on 09/14/2001 2:49:51 PM PDT by kevkrom
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To: Holden Magroin
use glazers. might be misspelled, but someon will tell you why they won't exit the body.
11 posted on 09/14/2001 2:50:21 PM PDT by Alas
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To: Holden Magroin
If a pilot shoots a terrorist, the bullet will in all likelihood exit the body and perforate the airplane, causing the plane to depressurize and sending passengers to their deaths.

Gee, a 'perforated' airplane. I'd hate to have that happen. That'd be much worse than, say, having multiple jetliners ram into skyscapers...

13 posted on 09/14/2001 3:32:15 PM PDT by Egg
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To: kevkrom
Well then it sounds like Ron Paul is right again. But I'll still take a train.
14 posted on 09/14/2001 7:13:02 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: oursacredhonor
Ron Paul hits the 10 ring -- as usual!!!

THE ENTIRE EPISODE COULD HAVE BEEN AVERTED HAD EACH OF THOSE PLANES HAD STRONGER COCKPIT DOORS AND THOSE FOUR CAPTAINS HAD CRUMBY $300. PISTOLS IN THEIR FLIGHT BAGS!

WE SIMPLY MUST ASK OUR "LEADERS" WHY THEY DID NOT!!

AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT PLAN, ASK THE SURVIVORS OF THE 5,000 FORMER AMERICANS IF THEY WOULD AGAIN TRADE THEIR LOVED ONES TO APPEASE THE OH-SO DELICATE SENSIBILITIES OF ROSIE O'DONNELL, SARAH BRADY AND THE NUTS AT HANDGUN CONTROL. ANYBODY ELSE WONDER WHY WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM SINCE 9-11?

As America continues to reel from the catastrophic events of 9/11, we need to rethink a few things:

It’s probably time to train and ARM the cockpit crews of US carriers who agree to the program. Pilots and FOs who do not want the responsibility can be exempted. It was, after all, the folks controlling the aircraft who were the targets on Terrible Tuesday.

During the rash of hijackings of a few decades ago, the feds put armed “AIR MARSHALS” on many flights. While some correctly argued that a fuselage punctured by a bullet at 35,000 feet MIGHT – repeat MIGHT bring the plane down – hijackings fell off.

One thing we know for sure about the four craft hijacked on 9/11: They ALL CAME DOWN and THEY ALL DIED!!

And to those who will inevitably – and stupidly – argue that pilots and FOs just cannot be trusted with the decision about when it’s time to pull a trigger, better tell the up to 400 folks sitting in the back that the guys up front are judgment-impaired!

Personally, I’d prefer to take my chances with a rapid decompression than watch some madman take MY flight into a building or the ground at 500 mph. That was the final experience of 266 fellow humans on 9/11. I KNOW I – like they – won’t survive that!

And pay VERY close attention to the "solutions" being offered by those in government: They are NOT talking about REMOVING the limitations they have ALREADY placed on us as individuals to DEFEND OURSELVES. They are beginning to talk about FURTHER RESTRICTIONS on our liberties and MORE GOVERNMENT! More GOVERNMENT? The same GOVERNMENT that failed so miserably in its obligation to protect citizens that 5,000 of them died like cattle in a slaughterhouse on September 11th? THAT GOVERNMENT?? </font color=red>

It’s again the old, old story: There aren’t TOO many weapons out there. It’s that the touchy-feely, warm-fuzzy PC crowd now sees to it that all too frequently, THE WRONG PEOPLE HAVE THEM!

15 posted on 09/14/2001 8:04:47 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Texaggie79
...and as a physician, he's trained to use the scientific method to reach his conclusions. Couple that with his doctor's respect for life (Ob/Gyn) and his libertarian sentiments and you have a guy who's been one of my heroes since his FIRST terms in congress back in the 70s and 80s.

If we had 534 more of him, FR would probably become a forum for exchanging recipes...

16 posted on 09/14/2001 8:15:44 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Holden Magroin
NOT TRUE. It would be a small hole. Pressure would drop fast, masks would deploy, pilot would take it down to 12K under for breatheable air and all would be OK. Lots of mussed hair and the cabin cleaning crew WOULD NOT be happy, but it beats having to dig body parts out of a 30' deep crater or the rubble of a destroyed landmark.

And the best part would be ONE OR MORE DEAD TERRORISTS!

17 posted on 09/14/2001 8:20:54 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: oursacredhonor
There are bullets that will not penetrate the airplane, but will penetrate the hijacker. There was someone on Fox talking about it today. Anyone know the specifics? I forget the grain and caliber of the bullet.
18 posted on 09/14/2001 8:24:18 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: Dick Bachert
I was supposed to be delivered by him, but he was in Washington.
19 posted on 09/14/2001 9:06:49 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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To: RightOnLine
FYI. :)
20 posted on 09/14/2001 9:14:43 PM PDT by summer
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