Posted on 02/10/2004 10:46:05 AM PST by ksen
I tend to agree, with caveats about the use of expressions "aren't even Christians," and "perfectly acceptable forms of worship." The only perfectly acceptable form of worship of course is that in the Holy Spirit, sent in the name/authority/auspices of Christ --once again, on His terms, from His point of view. So fortunate that point of view is one where mercy would triumph over judgment.
Such is not to say that if some uneducated person's god is "Fufu" that God won't initiate and invite and weed through this person's response.
Also, we find doctrines taught by demons even in the Christian church and of course the traditions of other worship.
I know of someone who was diligently praying for someone's salvation and this person attests to having at one point heard back, words to the effect of, "you know some people aren't supposed to be saved." Perhaps this was a test; one can hope.
What a dreadful thing, to be found from Eternity as a rejector of one's Savior.
Jesus is the Door and the Gate. No one enters without His approval.
Rev 20: 11Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done. 14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
It does not seem justified to me to say that everyone who is at this judgement is not in the book of life. The implication seems to be that some WERE in the book of life.
Interesting point. Goes with Romans 2:1-16, eh?
None of them will get in without Jesus OK, but they will probably be certified on the same basis as was Jethro and Melchizadek, imho.
The advantage for the Christian in this time of God's favor, though, is that we go immediately from death to life.
No, you have not gotten the "thrust" at all. The "thrust" is, that you have an un-Biblical, modernist, sentimental concept of what "love" is, and have relied on your own feelings than on God's Word for truth and practice.
Sorry to inform you, but you did "judge" me, and "judged" me wrongly as well, by "judging" me to be "infuriated", which is as far from the truth as the east is from the west.
You are free not to "judge"(in reality you judge all the time but can't admit it), but don't try and tell me that Christians are not to "judge" when God---not you---has clearly commanded the opposite.
btw, what you misjudged to be "infuriated", is a strong love for God and His Word.
Why did you judge me wrongly?
Re:. I do not know the doctrine of EPH 210, but I do know that no one can "force" anyone into their doctrinal position..I do not think ??? he was trying to insist on anything with you...
She totally missed the "thrust", which was that she was trying to say Christians are not to "judge", and in so doing, "judging" those who do, herself. The point I, and you, were making, is the same point that God's Word makes, that we are called to "judge", teachings, spiritual conditions, etc, and are called to judge with righteous judgment, that is to say, with a right standard, God's Word.
Then how can you make a judgment that Joseph Smith and Mormons are children of God when that right is reserved for the true believers in Christ Jesus, and them only?
I would suggest that you first study the LDS religion before making that judgment.
Re:On that basis, the tree looks to be pretty sound to me.
You have judged by mere appearances, which Jesus prohibits. "Fruits" are not just the things you mentioned, which when you look deeper, past the appearance, what you find is lots of problems in Mormonism, terrible sexism and racism, terrible treatment of widows and orphans, pedophilia, just to name a few, but "fruit", also is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and not a jesus of human invention, who had a prior existence on a planet, having been the product of the Mormon god and one of his celestial wives having celestial sex, creating jesus as a spirit being, along with his brother Lucifer.
By judging according to appearance, you do the Mormons a disservice, by not witnessing the truth of the Gospel.
So says the gospel according to Oprah, but not the Gospel of Christ.
Ya know, for someone who's only been on Free Republic for little more than a month, you're awfully confrontive....and....adept at posting, too.
I'm sorry, I didn't know there was a rule at FR that only old timers could be "confrontive and adept".
Allow me to inform you, that there are lots and lots of forums on the net.
btw, I've used that line at many other forums for years.
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