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2nd-trimester abortion help(Researchers Kill 110 Babies to Determine Which 'Device' Works)
Health24 (HealthDayNews) ^ | 4/10/2003

Posted on 10/07/2003 8:00:51 AM PDT by truthandlife

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To: fortaydoos
Republican control of the White House, Congress and the S.C. and absolutely NOTHING is being done about ending this American holocaust.

Aw geez...please keep up with the program. A quick search will bring these up...in no particular order:

Lott Moves Quickly to Protect the Unborn

U.S. House Overwhelmingly Approves PBA Ban, But Democratic Senators Again Delay Senate Approval

NRLC Legislative Update

Mexico City Policy Expanded, Clarified

Bush Insures the Unborn

Bush Administration Files Brief Supporting Partial-Birth Abortion Ban

Bush blocks funds for international abortions

FDA Investigating Holly Patterson's RU 486 Abortion Death

Bush Admin. Defunds AIDS Program Over Abortion Group's Participation

41 posted on 10/07/2003 9:34:46 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: truthandlife
Sick. God is just. In hell, all these abortionists will be vaccuumed to 'death' over and over and over and over. . . .
42 posted on 10/07/2003 9:45:09 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: fortaydoos
"Republican control of the White House, Congress and the S.C. and absolutely NOTHING is being done about ending this American holocaust."

I wouldn't say nothing. Some laws have been put into place, policy changes have occurred. But a full reversal of Roe v. Wade would have to come from the Supreme Court - and since there hasn't been a change in the judges that isn't going to happen soon.

(That's one reason we need to fight for Bush's conservative judicial nominees.)

The other option is a constitutional amendment, and that is very difficult to attain. Go to your local congresspersons and see if they would be willing to sponsor one. Mine haven't expressed any interest.

43 posted on 10/07/2003 9:50:25 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: truthandlife
"In the name of "pragmatism," we can continue to sell our souls to partisan politics, or we can stand for the truth and put our hope in God."

So are you suggesting we not vote and stay out of politics all together? I'm not sure what you are getting at.

44 posted on 10/07/2003 9:52:54 AM PDT by MEGoody
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To: MEGoody
No I am not suggesting we not vote and stay out of politics all together, but I am suggesting getting behind a candidate in the Republican Party who stands up for the unborn and defends marriage between a man and a woman.

The Religious Right was a powerful force when it stood foursquare on the principles of morality, honesty, and constitutional government. Today it demonstrates none of that.

45 posted on 10/07/2003 10:00:09 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: cpforlife.org; MHGinTN; Coleus; nickcarraway; Mr. Silverback
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46 posted on 10/07/2003 10:02:06 AM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: truthandlife
BUMP!
47 posted on 10/07/2003 10:03:02 AM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: truthandlife
I was born 2nd trimester.
48 posted on 10/07/2003 10:03:55 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan (A vote for McClintock is a vote for Kyle Reese...and a vote against Cruz.)
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To: BibChr
No baby is saved by a self-serving, hollow gesture. If we don't get at the table, we don't affect the table.

I'm glad you can see that. A lot of people can't.

49 posted on 10/07/2003 10:22:02 AM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Alouette; aposiopetic; attagirl; axel f; Balto_Boy; Blue Scourge; ...
Research on better ways to administer the Zyklon B go on...

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

50 posted on 10/07/2003 10:25:44 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I used to work in a fire hydrant factory. Couldn't park anywhere near the place."--Steven Wright)
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To: BMiles2112
That's why in all honesty, I do not call myself a Conservative. I'm an Objectivist, for which there is no political party (especially libertarians.) However, JimRob seems to make room on this forum for us few and for that I am thankful. I think Blackdog brought it up because while you tend to think of people who are pro-choice as evil, there are some of us like Laura Bush who you actually like.
51 posted on 10/07/2003 10:27:39 AM PDT by The Westerner
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To: truthandlife
"Sieg Heil! This is Ernst Goebbels of the Fatherland News Network with a special bulletin. Researchers at the Ministry of Racial Hygiene have announced a stunning breakthrough. A redesigned shower head made with a much less expensive grade of metal was just as effective in killing Jews as the showerheads currently in use. This will allow the higher grade metals to be diverted for use in war machines employed to cleanse the Earth of inferior elements. This has been an FNN news break. Heil Hitler!"
52 posted on 10/07/2003 10:34:55 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I used to work in a fire hydrant factory. Couldn't park anywhere near the place."--Steven Wright)
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To: The Westerner

pro-choice as evil

...saline abortion is a solution of salt saline that is injected into the mothers womb. The baby then gulps the solution, it burns the baby inside and out and then the mother is to deliver a dead baby within 24 hours.

This happened to me! I remained in the solution for approximately 18 hours and was delivered ALIVE on April 6, 1977 at 6:00 am in a California abortion clinic. There were young women in the room who had already been given their injections and were waiting to deliver dead babies. When they saw me they experienced the horror of murder. A nurse called an ambulance, while the abortionist was not yet on duty, and had me transferred to the hospital. I weighed a mere two pounds. I was saved by the sheer power of Jesus Christ.

Ladies and gentleman I should be blind, burned.....I should be dead! And yet, I live! Due to a lack of oxygen supply during the abortion I live with cerebral palsy.

...Adolph Hitler once said: "The receptive ability of the great masses is only very limited, their understanding is small; on the other hand their forgetfulness is great. This being so, all effective propaganda should be limited to a very few points which in turn, should be used as slogans until the very last man is able to imagine what is meant by such words." Today's slogans are: "a woman's right to choose" and "freedom of choice," etcetera. Hearing on H.R. 4292, the "Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of 2000", Testimony of Gianna Jessen

 

When Do Human Beings Begin? the lives of human beings--and human persons--begin at conception. Personhood Begins At Conception explains what exactly a "person" is. Is the Unborn Less Than Human?explains why it does not make sense to argue that a human being is created at implantation, quickening, or birth. When Does a Human Become a Person? demonstrates why other functional criteria given for personhood--such as sentience, brain development, and viability--are inadequate. He then refutes the "gradualist" position. Finally, he discusses the positions of various abortion and infanticide advocates. Does Life Begin At Implantation? addresses the phenomena of monozygotic twinning, hydatiform moles, choriocarcinoma, blighted ova, cloning, and fertilization wastage, that fail to disprove the position that human life begins at conception. Scientific and Philosophical Expertise: An Evaluation of the Arguments on Personhood -- positions which assert that early human embryos are not persons are based on inadequate philosophical principles and faulty scientific data. The Human Rational Soul in the Early Embryo discusses the various theories of "ensoulment" A Survey of Arguments for Immediate versus Delayed Animation critically analyzes the theory of mediate animation. The Tiniest Humans -- an interview with the renowned geneticist Jerome Lejeune and the father of modern embryology, Sir Albert William Liley

Some abortion advocates are willing to concede that unborn children are human beings. Surprisingly enough, they claim that they would still be able to justify abortion. According to their argument, no person-no unborn child-has a right to access the bodily resources of an unwilling host. Unborn children may have a right to life, but that right to life ends where it encroaches upon a mother's right to bodily autonomy. The argument is called the bodyright argument.

The Bodyright Argument: A Pro-life Response -- comprehensive analysis of the bodyright argument, including a discussion of the various pro-abortion analogies to pregnancy, and a refutation of the positions of Philosophers Judith Thomson, Susan Mattingly, Patricia Jung, Frances Kamm, Margaret Little and others. The Changing Pro-Life Argument: Does the Humanity of the Unborn Matter Anymore? introduces and refutes the famous argument from "bodily rights". A Woman's Right Over Her Body? addresses arguments in defense of abortion that are based on a woman's "right" to control her own body. Unplugging a Bad Analogy refutes a famous argument put forth by philosopher Judith Jarvis Thomson. Abortionists, Violinists and Burglars addresses Thomson's arguments from a different angle. A Fetus is NOT a Parasite chordate embryologist Dr. Thomas L. Johnson. Begging the Question explains why the statement "a woman has a right to control her own body" begs the basic question in the abortion debate--is she only affecting her own body when she aborts?

What many people fail to realize is that most of the arguments used to justify killing unborn children could be used with just as much force to justify killing newborn children and, in some cases, even full-grown adults.

I Was Once a Fetus -- mathematician and philosopher Dr. Alexander Pruss .The Real Problem with Abortion -- examines two competing positions on the issue--the position of moderate pro-life advocate Don Marquis and the position of liberal abortion advocate Mary Anne Warren. McNeil concludes that neither position sufficiently explains why it is wrong to kill human beings, and introduces his own viewpoint.

53 posted on 10/07/2003 10:45:40 AM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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To: truthandlife
I cannot believe our world has come to this. I just can't believe it. But then again California is about to elect a pro abortion movie star to be governor.
54 posted on 10/07/2003 10:56:31 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: truthandlife; nickcarraway; Notwithstanding
Killing fields ping
55 posted on 10/07/2003 10:57:26 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: truthandlife
So California should have a governor who is incompetent, is an unrepentant racist, supports driver's licenses for illegals, and believes the answer to the state budget crisis is more taxes, and oh by the way, is 100% hard-core PRO-ABORTION!! How in the bloody world is it the pro-life position to help put a guy in office who is going to make it easy for terrorists to get California ID? How is it the pro-life position to help Planned Parenthood's favored candidate get into office?

The worst that can happen if Arnold gets in is that they'll be in the same fix as now, minus the racist-sympathizer governor (Davis) and the IDs for illegals, which might make the difference between whether Al-Qaida hits us again or not. I could see this as a moral dilemma if Bustamente was a pro-lifer, but he's not, and a vote for McClintock is a vote for Bustamente. "Principle" that helps Bustamente win is no principle at all.

"I would rather be ruled by a competent Turk than an incompetent Christian." --Martin Luther

56 posted on 10/07/2003 10:57:36 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I used to work in a fire hydrant factory. Couldn't park anywhere near the place."--Steven Wright)
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To: Mr. Silverback

The Party of Death vs. The Party of Slow Suicide


57 posted on 10/07/2003 11:00:49 AM PDT by truthandlife
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Yeah, just like Laura Bush and Condi Rice are "trolling about" the White House.

And I'm sure Tipper Gore and Al's choice for NSA would be pro-life to the hilt.

58 posted on 10/07/2003 11:00:55 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I used to work in a fire hydrant factory. Couldn't park anywhere near the place."--Steven Wright)
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To: fortaydoos
Republican control of the White House, Congress and the S.C. and absolutely NOTHING is being done about ending this American holocaust.

Yes, and that's exactly why every pro-abort in the country is so happy that there might be two or three GWB appointees to the Supreme Court, right? That's why Kate Michelman is just sunshine and lollipops about Priscilla Owen and Charles Pickering. That's why Laci and Connor's law doesn't scare them a bit.

As for "absolutely nothing," tell that to the kids who'll live because the PBA ban got accomplished.

59 posted on 10/07/2003 11:07:15 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I used to work in a fire hydrant factory. Couldn't park anywhere near the place."--Steven Wright)
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To: Saundra Duffy; truthandlife
But Arnold is going to invite you to the table...and maybe, just maybe toss you a few crumbs, such as condescending to give you an autograph picture.


Jews for Morality (JfM), a national organization of Orthodox Jewish rabbis and laymen, today announced their strong support for Tom McClintock for Governor of California.

Rabbi Yehuda Levin, executive director of JFM said: "Tom McClintock is the only viable candidate who wholeheartedly stands for decency and morality.

"Mr. Schwartzenegger and Mr. Bustamante, the other major candidates, have made it clear that they support the further destruction of American society through the promotion of homosexuality and abortion." –end– JfM Endorses McClintock for California Governor

"When you consider that Schwarzenegger supports taxpayer funding of all abortions, homosexual rights, domestic partnerships and homosexual adoptions, this is not consistent with what it means to be a Republican in California," Thomasson said. "Arnold is out of step with a wide majority of Republicans in this state who want their family values protected."

A spokesman for the California Republican Party, which endorsed Schwarzenegger on Monday, didn't return calls seeking comment. The Moral Issues in the California Election

Until now, says a report by Agence France-Presse, the conventional view was that obsessive celebrity worship was limited to a tiny fraction of the population. The study, however, found there is a "sliding scale" between those who follow stars for fun and those who are seriously pathological.WorldNetDaily: Research: 1/3 of us worship celebrities

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extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must
be fought for and defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people. Those who have known freedom, and then
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California Republican Assembly

Tom McClintock for Governor Alan Keyes Endorses Tom McClintock for Governor

60 posted on 10/07/2003 11:09:59 AM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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