The Search For Atlantis 'Ends At Ayia Napa' (Cyprus)

The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-28-2003 | Fiona Govan

[blam]

"Problem is Plato said Atlantis was "beyond the Pillars of Hercules"--i.e. outside the straits of Gibralter. "

No-one knows for sure where the Pillars Of Hercules are.

[blam]

Discovery Of Atlantis

[AngrySpud]

First he says: "It's only a mile down in calm, warm waters".

Then he says: "Mummified in the cold waters of the deep sea, frozen in time".

Okay ... is it "warm" or is it "frozen"?

[PatrickHenry]

A volume that belongs in every Atlantis library? Can't argue with that.

[NotQuiteCricket]

Read later.

[Kenny Bunk]

So does Atlantiss belong to Turkey, or Greece?

[SengirV]

Melkor says 'hey' ;)

[rightofrush]

There is a school of thought that suggests that Atlantis was not just an island, but a civilization that streched from the Gulf of Mexico to the Mediterranean, with each of its major cities following the same civic plan.

[MHGinTN]

""We are Atlantis, we are the oldest civilisation, we are the Garden of Eden." I placed Eden in a somewhat different location in my latest novel, after careful consideration of the 'evidences' such as river beds, etc. What fun it is to speculate!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[MHGinTN]

Looking at your map makes a better case for the Azores being the site of Atlantis proper.

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Search For 'Lost" Atlantis Centers On Strait Of Gilbralter

[blam]

"There is a school of thought that suggests that Atlantis was not just an island, but a civilization that streched from the Gulf of Mexico to the Mediterranean, with each of its major cities following the same civic plan."

I like that one. It is close to my 'present' favorite.

[star777]

Hi Blam

I just wanted to post this Cypriot vessel artifact that was made in around 530 BC. Looks they new more about Atlantis than we do, when you consider the concentric circles on the vessel paralells with the concentric circles that surrounded the sacred hill that Platos speaks of.

http://www.starcomone.com/urantians/images/vase.jpg

I thought it was interesting that the concentric circle symbology exists throughout the world. Can be traced from Korea to 9,ooo Armenian petroglyphs. Also circles can be found in Blolivia and Hawaii.

I think Robert Sarmast has a good case about the CyprusAtlantis theory. I think warrants further investigation to see if there is more truth that we can uncover and paralell.

Regards

dj

[gore3000]

"What we have here is a whole city, an ancient civilisation, megalithic sites packed full of artefacts. We can expect to find colossal buildings, bridges, roads, canals and stone temples.

Seems to me that if there is a city down there, it needs to be investigated - whether it is Atlantis or not.

[blam]

"Seems to me that if there is a city down there, it needs to be investigated - whether it is Atlantis or not."

The mainstream archaeologists don't seem to be giving this much attention and in fact, Mr Sarmast himself says,"We can expect to find colossal buildings, bridges, roads, canals and stone temples." I don't think he has found anything but geological features on the ocean bed so far. None-the-less, I'm hopeful.

All the shifting of the weight from the water would have caused large earthquakes and probably volcanos too.

[blam]

"Homeschooling bump!! We're fixing to start Ancient History, so this is VEY timely!"

You may like this one too.

[Phsstpok]

Problem is Plato said Atlantis was "beyond the Pillars of Hercules"--i.e. outside the straits of Gibralter. So all these theories about a Mediterranean location for Atlantis flunk that test.

although the Straights of Gibraltor are referred to as the Pillars of Hercules, there are also several sites in the eastern Med that are similarly named. Plato's Egyptian sources are far more likely to be referring to one of those sites than the Straights, as they dealt with them far more frequently.

I personally hold with the theory that Atlantis was the volcanic island of Thera (modern Greek island of Santorini), fairly near to Cyprus. Several analysts have pointed out that the Egyptian "900" was often mis-translated in Greek as 9,000, which is how many years back (from his time) Plato placed the events of the destruction of Atlantis. If we look at 900 years instead of 9,000 they end up with the approximate date of the massive explosion of the island of Thera (bigger than Krakatoa or Mt St Helens, by a long shot). Prior to its destruction it would have had the appropriate physical characteristics to match Atlantis. At least the physical location descriptions would match close enough with Crete to satisfy the same "criteria" sited by the author to support the notion of the nearby Cyprus. This theory also accounts for the destruction of the Minoan (Crete) culture at around the same time. some even hold that it coincides with the "pillar of fire" and the parting of the Red Sea from Exodus. Certainly it was a big event, but to be recorded in such disparate sources does cause me some problems.

The big problem I have with this guys theory is that, so far as I've been able to find out, the breaching of the dam (represented at one end by the Rock of Gibralter) between the Atlantic and the Med happened around 65 million years ago. I don't think there were too many human civalizations, high or low, around that time. It certainly doesn't jibe with Platos account of 9,000 years either, though factoring in ice ages may fix that problem, though not with the "dam breach," but with the sea level changes, as suggested by another poster.

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"This theory also accounts for the destruction of the Minoan (Crete) culture at around the same time. some even hold that it coincides with the "pillar of fire" and the parting of the Red Sea from Exodus. Certainly it was a big event, but to be recorded in such disparate sources does cause me some problems. "

The Thera/Santorini explosion has been dated to 1628BC, that's why I argue for an earlier date for the Exodus. Charred grain under the crumpled wall of Jerico are just on top of the Santorini ash layer. The Santorini volcano was a worldwide event as it is recorded worldwide by tree rings...as well as the Ice Cores.

[blam]

"The big problem I have with this guys theory is that, so far as I've been able to find out, the breaching of the dam (represented at one end by the Rock of Gibralter) between the Atlantic and the Med happened around 65 million years ago. "

The Mediterranean completely dried out 4-5 million years ago which would necessitate that the passage at Gilbralter was blocked at that time.