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California recall: Does one man hold key? [McClintock]
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 9-25 | Christian Science Monitor

Posted on 09/25/2003 2:54:50 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: Texasforever
If Tom would be stupid to make the elimination of abortion a central campaign issue because it is not a winning issue how is he any different from Arnold?

Wow, how hard is that to figure out, Tex?

Arnold supports abortion on demand, and Tom opposes it.

461 posted on 09/25/2003 11:35:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: montag813
"Spoiler" is a subjective term, my friend. Tom's supporters maintain that it is Arnold who is the spoiler in this race...
462 posted on 09/25/2003 11:35:59 PM PDT by ambrose (Free Tommy Chong!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Even Jesus told his disciples 'There are many things I have to tell you that you are not yet ready to bear'.

I see. So it is acceptable for your candidate to avoid the issue as long as he "says" it is important to him. What the hell good is that? I think McClintock is the man of principled clay feet.

463 posted on 09/25/2003 11:37:15 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: montag813
That is Issa's claim. Never seen it confirmed by Tom.

Besides, since there is no other conservative in this race, how can he play spoiler?
464 posted on 09/25/2003 11:38:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Arnold supports abortion on demand, and Tom opposes it.

But not enough to make it a campaign issue. What was that about hypocrite again?

465 posted on 09/25/2003 11:39:01 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
You hold Arnold to no standards, and set up impossible ones for Tom.

This is just a self-serving game to you people.
466 posted on 09/25/2003 11:41:25 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: Texasforever
But not enough to make it a campaign issue.

One more time: he talked about the abortion issue in his closing remarks in the debate...so your comment is untrue.

Did your boy talk about the fact he favors killing babies? Or is he a hypocrite too?

467 posted on 09/25/2003 11:45:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: EternalVigilance
You hold Arnold to no standards, and set up impossible ones for Tom.

No one around here has put AS forward as a combination of St. Augustine and Ronald Reagan. According to the McClintock supporters, the only thing preventing him from walking on water is the dry spell in California. If you are going to make a man a saint he should WALK HIS TALK.

468 posted on 09/25/2003 11:46:47 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
According to the McClintock supporters, the only thing preventing him from walking on water is the dry spell in California.

Water costs money. Tom ain't got any. You do the math.

469 posted on 09/25/2003 11:48:58 PM PDT by strela (I wonder if Tom McClintock will have to "make a reservation" to pay back that money?)
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To: Texasforever
If you are going to make a man a saint he should WALK HIS TALK.

Once again you set up a strawman.

I've certainly never made Tom McClintock out as a saint. He's simply a thousand times better than Arnold.

470 posted on 09/25/2003 11:52:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: EternalVigilance
I've certainly never made Tom McClintock out as a saint. He's simply a thousand times better than Arnold

Well so far on the abortion issue neither one is going to do anything about it so your "thousand times better" comment is moot.

471 posted on 09/25/2003 11:55:08 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: ambrose
Tom's supporters maintain that it is Arnold who is the spoiler in this race...

There are no tanks in Baghdad.

472 posted on 09/25/2003 11:56:30 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Well so far on the abortion issue neither one is going to do anything about it so your "thousand times better" comment is moot.

Untrue. The Governor will impact the abortion debate in many ways, both legislatively, administratively, and politically. To say 'neither one is going to do anything about it' is ridiculous on its face.

If Tom wins, incremental gains will be made against abortion, and the pro-life movement will be strengthened nationally.

If Arnold wins, the abortion industry will reap the deadly benefits of that. You know, Warren Buffett's pet; Planned Barrenhood.

And of course, Arnold is wrong on a long list of other issues as well, as you well know.

He is also surrounding himself with politicos and advisors who are hostile to conservatives and conservative ideas.

A disaster in the making, if you care about addressing the root causes of California's crisis.

473 posted on 09/26/2003 12:07:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: Texasforever
I'm done with your little game for the night.

Later.
474 posted on 09/26/2003 12:08:27 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Untrue. The Governor will impact the abortion debate in many ways, both legislatively, administratively, and politically. To say 'neither one is going to do anything about it' is ridiculous on its face.

Since Tom will not forthrightly state his intentions while campaigning what makes you think he is going to even mention it once elected. Where are his floor speeches concerning abortion? What legislation has he authored concerning abortion? Is he one of those "I am personally against abortion..but" politicians?

475 posted on 09/26/2003 12:13:27 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Is he one of those "I am personally against abortion..but" politicians?

Well, I guess I'll just have to be pragmatic and support the closest thing to what 'Texasforever' considers to be a perfect conservative, Tom McClintock.

Sweet dreams.

476 posted on 09/26/2003 12:15:40 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: EternalVigilance
Well, I guess I'll just have to be pragmatic and support the closest thing to what 'Texasforever' considers to be a perfect conservative, Tom McClintock.

Then you have done nothing for your cause. You have proven that, even you, are willing to vote for rhetoric over substance. I would be very careful about your liberal use of "hypocrite" when castigating other conservatives over their choice of political candidates.

477 posted on 09/26/2003 12:21:20 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
'Hypocrite' means 'an actor' in the Greek. I'll let you draw your own conclusions...
478 posted on 09/26/2003 12:28:37 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Call upon God to move on our behalf...)
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To: EternalVigilance
'Hypocrite' means 'an actor' in the Greek. I'll let you draw your own conclusions...

So Reagan was a hypocrit? I'll let you draw your own conclusions. Damn you are easy.

479 posted on 09/26/2003 12:30:26 AM PDT by Texasforever
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To: ambrose
One, splitting the Republican vote, he could will cost the party its best chance in a decade of high, statewide office...
480 posted on 09/26/2003 12:31:57 AM PDT by Penner
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