Disabled Woman Would Cry 'Help Me,' Caregivers Claim (Terri Schiavo)

CNSNews.com ^ | 9/03/03 | Jeff Johnson

[iowamomforfreedom]

No, she has been at the hospice since April of 2000.

[kimmie7]

Guardian Ad Litem .... a guardian that stands in place of the disabled person, appointed by the court to better ensure impartiality.

[kimmie7]

The Hospice there isn't even licensed to treat chronicly ill...only disabled.

Should read "or disabled"

[kimmie7]

You're welcome.

[mickie]

What happened to Gov. Bush?
I thought he got involved with this.....and asked the court to appoint a guardian for Terri.
I wonder if someone is paying off the judge to favor the 'husband' in all the court rulings?

[CindyDawg]

I'm telling you, something is really fishy at Suncoast

Maybe that's the direction you guys in Florida need to go.

[iowamomforfreedom]

I have been following the main thread for several days now. While I can understand people's scepticism as to the veracity of the claims by these nurses, if you had read all of the information that has been uncovered, these claims certainly are in line with the other information I have read. While the affidavits cited in the story above refer mostly to rehabilitation, what is even more disturbing is that it appears Terri has not been getting even basic medical care. In the last two weeks Terri has been rushed to the hospital with serious medical problems, and sent back to the hospice before she was fully stablized. I ran across a link to a letter that was sent to the hospice administrator by Terri's father last March. This is just a glimpse of what her parents have been going through for years. Have a look at this letter from Richard Schindler, and if you need more proof, take a look at the Call to Action thread here. This whole thing stinks.

[iowamomforfreedom]

GAL - Guardian Ad Litem.

[jocon307]

I'm posting to you kimmie7, because you are the most recent, but this is for the doubters here, and that might even include me! Because this story is unbelievable, but it has certainly been reported in enough reputable media that its truth really can't be doubted.

I read another story, in, really, like the NYTimes years ago, a similar tale. It may not have been the Times, but it was certainly as mainstream (liberal) as that. About a man, very disabled, but definately cognizant, and his wife was DETERMINED to end his life. I'm sorry I can't remember any pertinent details, like, ah, his name. But I certainly do remember the story.

And that is the point I am trying to make, stuff like this HAPPENS. Maybe not all the time, maybe not every day, but regularly, commonly. This woman's family just care enough to fight the long, good, maybe even losing, fight against the death mongers.

Because they crave death these people. Because they have turned against God, who instructs us "choose life". Because, they do not only crave death, but killing. I cannot even call it murder, murder requires a motive. Michael Schiavo may have a motive, but his colluders do not. A woman may have a motive to have an abortion, but her colluders do not.

These people are nihilists, and their meta-collusion with the motivated murderers among us (yes, the Muslims terrorists, I do mean them, amoung others, such as Mr. Schiavo) is all it will take for millions of innocents (ultimately) to die.

I dont' remember the man's name, because my atitude was always "I don't need to pay attention to this, I know they are wrong, someone else will have to deal with this, it is not my affair." Well, I also thought Bill Clinton's failures were dishonesty, perjury, and sexual perversion. Those may have been among his failures, but his crime was "dereliction of duty". That crime caused the death of 3000 Americans. If I scoff at the nihilists many more that 3000 innocents will die.

Islamo-terrorism and the culture wars, not unrelated at all. This is the scary part.

[MHGinTN]

Here is an important fact to note at the outset, if you're of a mind to dig deeper.

When Terri collapse, Michael filed a medical malpractice suit which had a 1.2 million award, $700,000.00 plus for Terri's rehab services to be done, $300,000.00 to Michael for lose of spousal partner and the rest for court and attorney fees. Michael subsequently 'took up with' another female and has a child living with them and another perhaps on the way. When he took up with the new female, he began his efforts to have her starved to death and has consistently refused to divoce Terri and be with the other female legally. You can draw your own conclusions, but Judge Greer has given Michael the right to use the money allotted for Terri's rehab to pay Atty. Felos in the removal of food and water suit!

And that's just for starters, GS. It gets much worse and concerned people are digging the business and board-member connections between the Judges and Atty Felos (in their Euthanasia and Hemlock Society 'causes') out of hiding, to pass along.

[honeygrl]

mickie would like to be added to the ping list as well for Terri.

[kimmie7]

we're working on it ;-) but I'm a KY girl

[kimmie7]

Is this the story?

Since Steven Becker's March operation to relieve pressure on his brain, discussion has revolved around eliminating food and water, provided through a tube into his digestive tract. This medically assisted food and water was correctly called "comfort care" in records at St. John's Mercy Medical Center before the decision was made to end his life. Now the hospital -- as well as the media -- calls it "life support".

But St. John's and its ethics committee have also decreed that other treatments -- antibiotics, other beneficial medications, physical therapy and a possible operation to correct his now-infected brain shunt -- can also be denied to Becker even though the legal process is still proceeding.

Becker has been deemed by his doctors to be in a "permanent vegetative state", defined as "awake but (assumed) unaware". That diagnosis is disputed by at least one other doctor. But pain medications and muscle relaxants, which can cause sedation, are among the few treatments that may be provided. Why would a supposedly unresponsive person even need pain medication?

[mickie]

#50 great post........Thanks for the info.

Whatever can we do to help Terri?
There is alot of money floating around here, and I sure hope the dirt comes out on who is on the take!

[kimmie7]

She's on the list! :-)

[kstewskis]

Hi Kimmie,

Please add me to your ping list for Terri.

This is the first I read about this story, and as a PT (as well as many other health care professionals here on FR), I am mortified by what I am reading.

thanks

[Hildy]

Conversely, Iyer said that when she would have to call Schiavo to inform him of a downturn in Terri's condition, Schiavo would be elated.

"Michael would be visibly excited, thrilled even, hoping that she would die," Iyer recalled. "He would blurt out, 'I'm going to be rich,' and would talk about all the things he would buy when Terri died, which included a new car, a new boat and going to Europe, among other things."

I don't believe this for a second. Why on Earth would he say these kinds of things to a nurse? It's so obviously made up.

[MHGinTN]

Spare us your incredulity, Hildy, we didn't expect you to stand on the side of life anyway.

[jocon307]

It could be. It was a few years ago that I read the story. My recollection is that it was somewhere in Middle America. And that the man's wife was not murderous, just overwhelmed. And the doctors couldn't be bothered to distinguish between the needy and the moribund.

Probably tons of stories could be posted that would fit the description. I could recount at least one more myself, although that woman just had cancer, she didn't need intensive care, but I swear her whole family and even her minister just thought the world would be a lighter place if she died.

That's my point, the Schiavo case is getting a lot of press and a lot of litigation (not wrongly) but this stuff is really happening all around us.

The culture of death is ascendant, and the fashionable think it's fine.

[kimmie7]

frightening, isn't it...