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Code of Silence: Time for the IRS to Answer The Question!
World Magazine ^ | August 30, 2003 | Joel Belz

Posted on 09/01/2003 4:10:28 PM PDT by TIElniff

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To: AlBondigas
Wanna know what the Guv's prepared for?

Not sure I follow the point. Every law has an enforcement capability.

41 posted on 09/02/2003 1:34:05 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: UbIwerks
The words wages and salaries are not in this example you gave so why should I believe that the income tax is a tax derived from these sources or even on these sources?

I will assume you really don't believe that the term "income from whatever source derived" was meant to include salaries and wages. Assuming so, please refer to 26CFR, Sec 1.61-2 which goes into much greater detail as to the specifics of "income", including salaries and wages.

42 posted on 09/02/2003 1:58:47 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
Not sure I follow the point. Every law has an enforcement capability.

Yeah, & it looks like they've gone beyond "capability" with their fairly detailed post on the subject

43 posted on 09/02/2003 2:12:02 PM PDT by AlBondigas
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To: MACVSOG68
I will assume you really don't believe that the term "income from whatever source derived" was meant to include salaries and wages. Assuming so, please refer to 26CFR, Sec 1.61-2 which goes into much greater detail as to the specifics of "income", including salaries and wages

I'll ask you again. Where is the term wages and salaries in Sec. 61 about sources of income? If it's not there and the example you gave on Sec. 61 demonstrates that case, then Mrs. Kuglin (sp) certainly was justified in her actions since wages and saleries are not even listed as a source of income.

And for those that don't know it, as people pointed out that the mission of the IRS is to achieve the highest level of voluntary compliance, the IRS changed its mission to "showing the public the tax laws that apply" or sumping like that in order to obscure the voluntary nature of the income tax. They didn't even show Mrs. Kuglin the laws that apply to her so they failed with their revised mission to her. This further justified her action(s) in this regard!

44 posted on 09/02/2003 3:15:21 PM PDT by UbIwerks
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To: UbIwerks
I'll ask you again. Where is the term wages and salaries in Sec. 61 about sources of income?

I just gave you the cite....26CFR, Sec 1.61-2 specifically identifies wages and salaries as income!!! Even if Kuglin was too slow to follow the US Code definition of "income from whatever source derived" and specically identifies "compensation for services", she could have gone to any IRS office and asked for the laws and guidelines, or to explain Title 26 US Code. But we both know she was not that stupid. She was playing a game with them, is damn lucky she had a stupid jury, and will eventually pay her taxes, interest and penalties.

Even if you can't find the CFR's, I need to know why wages and salaries aren't compensation for services, or part of "income from whatever source derived".

45 posted on 09/02/2003 3:34:32 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: AlBondigas
Yeah, & it looks like they've gone beyond "capability" with their fairly detailed post on the subject

Can't argue that one. I for one believe the federal government has far too many police powers. This is one of my ten top reasons for killing the income tax and going to a sales tax. but given that, as long as the income tax is the law of the land, I believe that the law should be adhered to.

46 posted on 09/02/2003 3:38:18 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
I also am for the national sales tax and simultaneous repeal of the income tax. The national sales tax would be a modern-day equivalent of the excise tax of the founders' time. I am for anything that helps restore as much of the original intent of the Constitution as possible and gets the Fed off our backs.

Until the 16th Amendment was ratified on Feb. 3, 1913 (with Connecticut, Rhode Island and Utah never ratifying it), the primary form of taxation was through duties, imposts and excises. Excises are an internal tax levied on the manufacture, sale, or consumption of a commodity. Imposts (and some excises) are any of various taxes on privileges often assessed in the form of a license or fee. A duty is primarily a tax on imports. The 16th Amendment introduced an income tax on top of the Fed's power to levy excises, imposts, and duties — none of the latter forms of taxation were repealed.

You are correct that the Left will never permit eliminating the income tax, but neither will anyone else in the political class. Some Republicans have talked a good game on this issue, but I notice that when they have the power to at least raise it as a public issue and attempt to pass legislation, they haven't done squat.

By the way, the 16th Amendment was introduced and passed by Congress in 1909 during the first term of President William Howard Taft. Both houses of Congress at the time were controlled by Republicans.

47 posted on 09/02/2003 3:39:20 PM PDT by Wolfstar (And an angel rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.)
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To: MACVSOG68
I did respond to what you said.

Have a nice day yourself.
48 posted on 09/02/2003 3:50:25 PM PDT by Henrietta
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To: MACVSOG68
Even if you can't find the CFR's, I need to know why wages and salaries aren't compensation for services, or part of "income from whatever source derived".

So much for your garbage about wages and salaries being in the Internal Revenue Code and applying to Mrs. Kuglin. And even if some regulation mentions wages and salaries (not mentioned by USC 26 itself), it obviously is a benign regulation. That's part of the reason the IRS would not answer Mrs. Kuglin's simple request(s).

As for your question about "fees and compensation for services," a corporation can receive fees and compensation for services; a wage worker such as Mrs. Kuglin does not!

49 posted on 09/02/2003 4:04:44 PM PDT by UbIwerks
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To: MACVSOG68
I have read the section you cite.

In the case at case at hand the question was were in the law does it state she was liable. There is no equivalent to the langauge "men aged X must register for the draft" or anything similar.

As others have remarked, the code is full of how much to pay under lots of circumstances, but nothing about which "individuals."
50 posted on 09/02/2003 4:10:02 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: Wolfstar
you are correct that the Left will never permit eliminating the income tax, but neither will anyone else in the political class. Some Republicans have talked a good game on this issue, but I notice that when they have the power to at least raise it as a public issue and attempt to pass legislation, they haven't done squat.

Good post. I'm not sure it's hopeless. There are roadblocks which have to be overcome, but it can happen. The politicians must understand that a sales tax will not take away any power they have to spend in those areas they deem important. One issue that needs to be addressed is the use of the income tax for purposes other than revenue raising. It is also used both to influence social behavior and to accomplish other goals such as energy efficiency and urban rehabilitation.

Once the issues are catalogued, they must be proactively addressed, not blown off by the pro-sales tax groups. There are more and more people considering the alternatives.

51 posted on 09/02/2003 4:11:20 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: MACVSOG68
as long as the income tax is the law of the land, I believe that the law should be adhered to.

My problem with that is that it is a "go have a bake sale and sig a petition" kind of dissent. Lame, easily ignored dissent. In contrast, making the tax code unenforcable would get it changed, for sure.

52 posted on 09/02/2003 4:13:02 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: TIElniff
Why not?<>False premise

Go here to IRS.gov for answers

53 posted on 09/02/2003 4:15:12 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: eno_
but there is no obvious statement that "every U.S. resident who earns an income..." etc. must pay income tax.

See Code section 1 and Regulation 1. If you refuse to read the first section you shouldn't do your own taxes.

54 posted on 09/02/2003 4:17:00 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: UbIwerks
From the IRS website

B. Contention: Payment of tax is voluntary.

In a similar vein, some argue that they are not required to pay federal taxes because the payment of federal taxes is voluntary. Proponents of this position argue that our system of taxation is based upon voluntary assessment and payment.

The Law: The requirement to pay taxes is not voluntary and is clearly set forth in section 1 of the Internal Revenue Code, which imposes a tax on the taxable income of individuals, estates, and trusts as determined by the tables set forth in that section. (Section 11 imposes a tax on the taxable income of corporations.) Furthermore, the obligation to pay tax is described in  section 6151 , which requires taxpayers to submit payment with their tax returns. Failure to pay taxes could subject the noncomplying individual to criminal penalties, including fines and imprisonment, as well as civil penalties.

In discussing section 6151, the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals stated "when a tax return is required to be filed, the person so required 'shall' pay such taxes to the internal revenue officer with whom the return is filed at the fixed time and place. The sections of the Internal Revenue Code imposed a duty on Drefke to file tax returns and pay the . . . tax, a duty which he chose to ignore." United States v. Drefke, 707 F.2d 978, 981 (8 th Cir. 1983).

Relevant Case Law:
United States v. Bressler, 772 F.2d 287, 291 (7 th Cir. 1985) - The court upheld Bressler's conviction for tax evasion, noting, "[he] has refused to file income tax returns and pay the amounts due not because he misunderstands the law, but because he disagrees with it . . . . [O]ne who refuses to file income tax returns and pay the tax owing is subject to prosecution, even though the tax protester believes the laws requiring the filing of income tax returns and the payment of income tax are unconstitutional."

Schiff v. United States, 919 F.2d 830, 833 (2d Cir. 1990), cert. denied, 501 U.S. 1238 (1991) - The court rejected Schiff's arguments as meritless and upheld imposition of the civil fraud penalty, stating "[t]he frivolous nature of this appeal is perhaps best illustrated by our conclusion that Schiff is precisely the sort of taxpayer upon whom a fraud penalty for failure to pay income taxes should be imposed."

Packard v. United States, 7 F. Supp. 2d 143, 145 (D. Conn. 1998) - The court dismissed Packard's refund suit for recovery of penalties for failure to pay income tax and failure to pay estimated taxes where the taxpayer contested the obligation to pay taxes on religious grounds, noting that "the ability of the Government to function could be impaired if persons could refuse to pay taxes because they disagreed with the Government's use of tax revenues."

United States v. Gerads, 999 F.2d 1255, 1256 (8 th Cir. 1993) - The court stated that "[taxpayers'] claim that payment of federal income tax is voluntary clearly lacks substance" and imposed sanctions in the amount of $1,500 "for bringing this frivolous appeal based on discredited, tax-protestor arguments."


55 posted on 09/02/2003 4:19:28 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: eno_
My problem with that is that it is a "go have a bake sale and sig a petition" kind of dissent. Lame, easily ignored dissent. In contrast, making the tax code unenforcable would get it changed, for sure.

Good luck. We probably both want the same thing, but will likely take different roads.

56 posted on 09/02/2003 4:31:10 PM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: UbIwerks
The words wages and salaries are not in this example you gave

What part of ALL INCOME FROM WHATEVER SOURCE don't you understand ?

57 posted on 09/02/2003 4:31:31 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: UbIwerks
the IRS changed its mission to "showing the public the tax laws that apply" or sumping like that in order to obscure the voluntary nature of the income tax.

From the super secret public web site at the IRS


. The Voluntary Nature of the Federal Income Tax System

A. Contention: The filing of a tax return is voluntary.

Some assert that they are not required to file federal tax returns because the filing of a tax return is voluntary. Proponents point to the fact that the IRS itself tells taxpayers in the Form 1040 instruction book that the tax system is voluntary. Additionally, the Supreme Court's opinion in Flora v. United States, 362 U.S. 145, 176 (1960), is often quoted for the proposition that "our system of taxation is based upon voluntary assessment and payment, not upon distraint."

The Law: The word "voluntary," as used in Flora and in IRS publications, refers to our system of allowing taxpayers to determine the correct amount of tax and complete the appropriate returns, rather than have the government determine tax for them. The requirement to file an income tax return is not voluntary and is clearly set forth in Internal Revenue Code §§  6011(a)6012(a) , et seq., and 6072(a). See also Treas. Reg. § 1.6011-1(a).

Any taxpayer who has received more than a statutorily determined amount of gross income is obligated to file a return. Failure to file a tax return could subject the noncomplying individual to criminal penalties, including fines and imprisonment, as well as civil penalties. In United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10 th Cir. 1986), the court clearly states, "although Treasury regulations establish voluntary compliance as the general method of income tax collection, Congress gave the Secretary of the Treasury the power to enforce the income tax laws through involuntary collection . . . . The IRS' efforts to obtain compliance with the tax laws are entirely proper."

Relevant Case Law:
Helvering v. Mitchell, 303 U.S. 391, 399 (1938) - The U.S. Supreme Court stated, "[i]n assessing income taxes, the Government relies primarily upon the disclosure by the taxpayer of the relevant facts . . . in his annual return. To ensure full and honest disclosure, to discourage fraudulent attempts to evade the tax, Congress imposes [either criminal or civil] sanctions."

United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10 th Cir. 1986) - The court upheld a conviction for willfully failing to file a return, stating that the premise "that the tax system is somehow 'voluntary' . . . is incorrect."

United States v. Richards, 723 F.2d 646, 648 (8 th Cir. 1983) - The court upheld conviction and fines imposed for willfully failing to file tax returns, stating that the claim that filing a tax return is voluntary "was rejected in United States v. Drefke, 707 F.2d 978, 981 (8 th Cir. 1983), wherein the court described appellant's argument as "an imaginative argument, but totally without arguable merit."

Woods v. Commissioner, 91 T.C. 88, 90 (1988) - The court rejected the claim that reporting income taxes is strictly voluntary, referring to it as a "tax protester type" argument, and found Woods liable for the penalty for failure to file a return.

Johnson v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1999-312, 78 T.C.M. (CCH) 468, 471 (1999) - The court found Johnson liable for the failure to file penalty and rejected his argument "that the tax system is voluntary so that he cannot be forced to comply" as "frivolous."


58 posted on 09/02/2003 4:33:55 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: VRWC_minion
What part of ALL INCOME FROM WHATEVER SOURCE don't you understand ?

More than you'll ever know you Collectivist wannabe -- more than you'll ever know. And Sec 1 does not require people to file income tax returns -- it isn't even listed in the privacy act notice (not that you understand what that means) -- if it did they would've have answered Mrs. Kuglin. As bad as the IRS is they're more honest and knowledgeable than you and Mac (whatever). At least they don't personally tell lies in writing as you two do. Or to be charitable, neither one of you has an idea of what you're talking about.

59 posted on 09/02/2003 4:38:29 PM PDT by UbIwerks
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To: TIElniff
United States Tax Court
VERNICE B. KUGLIN,
Petitioner v.
COMMISSIONER OF INTERNAL REVENUE,
Respondent


Docket No. 2657-00L
Date of Decision: February 25, 2002
Judge: Foley, Maurice B.

Tax Analysts Citation: 2002 TNT 38-20
Parallel Citations: T.C. Memo. 2002-51
Principal Code Reference: Section 6330
Section 6673

Summary
Provided by Tax Analysts. Copyright 2003 Tax Analysts. All rights reserved.
IRS TRANSCRIPTS ARE ENOUGH TO VERIFY ASSESSMENTS.
The Tax Court has held that an IRS appeals officer's reliance on
IRS transcripts to initiate a collection action against a tax-
delinquent individual met the requirements for assessment
verification.
The IRS made assessments for Vernice Kuglin's 1994-1995 taxes and
issued a hearing and levy notice. Kuglin requested a due process
hearing and contended that there was no "valid summary record of
assessment." The appeals officer printed out computer transcripts of
IRS records and held a telephone hearing with Kuglin. The IRS, relying
on the transcripts to verify the assessments, issued a determination
notice sustaining the proposed collection action against Kuglin. The
IRS didn't give Kuglin copies of the transcripts or Forms 4340 before
making the determination but did so a month before trial.
Tax Court Judge Maurice B. Foley, sustaining the IRS's
determination, held that the appeals officer didn't abuse his
discretion by relying on the transcripts to verify the assessments.
The court noted that the transcripts had the requisite information and
that the officer wasn't required by section 6330(c)(1) to produce Form
23C for assessment verification. The court concluded that Kuglin
wasn't prejudiced when the IRS provided the transcript copies after
the hearing but before the trial, and it found that Kuglin failed to
show any irregularity in the assessment procedure. The court declined
to impose damages for delay against Kuglin.
Full Text
Provided by Tax Analysts. Copyright 2003 Tax Analysts. All rights reserved.
UNITED STATES TAX COURT

Filed February 25, 2002

Joyce Griggs, for petitioner.
Ross M. Greenberg, for respondent.
MEMORANDUM OPINION

[1] FOLEY, Judge: The issue for decision is whether respondent has met the requirements of section 6330.1
Background

[2] On June 16 and July 16, 1997, respondent issued notices of deficiency relating to Vernice Kuglin's 1994 and 1995 Federal income taxes, respectively, but petitioner did not seek redetermination of the deficiencies.
[3] On December 4, 1997, petitioner's counsel requested a copy of the assessments relating to petitioner's 1994 and 1995 income taxes. On June 28, 1999, respondent issued a Notice of Intent to Levy and Notice of Your Right to a Hearing. On July 15, 1999, petitioner filed a Request for a Collection Due Process Hearing (i.e., Form 12153) and contended that there was no "valid summary record of assessment". On September 16, 1999, respondent's Appeals officer printed out computer transcripts (transcripts) of respondent's records. The transcripts contained petitioner's Social Security number and the first four letters of her last name; monetary figures representing amounts assessed, identified by respondent's transaction codes; and petitioner's adjusted gross and taxable income. In a letter dated December 13, 1999, the Appeals officer responded to petitioner's request for a hearing and scheduled a telephone hearing, which was held on January 25, 2000.
[4] On February 16, 2000, respondent issued a Notice of Determination Concerning Collection Action(s) Under Section 6320 and/or 6330 (determination), sustaining the proposed collection action. In making the determination, respondent relied on the transcripts to verify the assessments. Respondent, before making his determination, did not give petitioner copies of these transcripts or Forms 4340, Certificates of Assessments, Payments, and Other Specified Matters (Forms 4340).
[5] On March 7, 2000, petitioner, who was residing in Memphis, Tennessee, filed her petition for review of the determination with the Court. Respondent provided petitioner with copies of Forms 4340 on December 4, 2000. At trial, on January 8, 2001, respondent moved for the imposition of a section 6673(a)(1) penalty.
Discussion

[6] Section 6330(b)(1) provides that if a taxpayer requests a hearing, "such hearing shall be held by the Internal Revenue Service Office of Appeals." Section 6330(c)(1) provides: "The appeals officer shall at the hearing obtain verification from the Secretary that the requirements of any applicable law or administrative procedure have been met." Section 6330(d) provides for Tax Court review of the Commissioner's determination relating to the section 6330 hearing.
[7] Petitioner contends that the Appeals officer abused his discretion by relying on the transcripts to verify the assessment, and that section 6330(c)(1) requires the production of Form 23C. Respondent contends that an Appeals officer, in verifying the assessments, may rely on computer transcripts that contain the requisite information.
[8] We agree with respondent. Section 6203 authorizes the Secretary to make assessments. The assessment officer, appointed by the Secretary, makes the assessment by signing the summary record of assessment. Sec. 301.6203-1, Proced. & Admin. Regs. The summary record of assessment must "provide identification of the taxpayer, the character of the liability assessed, the taxable period, if applicable, and the amount of the assessment." Id. Section 6330(c)(1), however, does not require that the Commissioner verify the information by using a particular source (i.e., the summary record itself rather than a computer transcript). The transcripts respondent used for the verification contained the requisite information. Respondent's reliance on such transcripts was not an abuse of discretion.
[9] Where the Commissioner provides the taxpayer with Forms 4340 (i.e., proof of assessment) after the hearing and before trial, and the taxpayer does not "show at trial any irregularity in the assessment procedure that would raise a question about the validity of the assessments", the taxpayer is not prejudiced. Nestor v. Commissioner , 118 T.C. ___, ___ (2002) (slip op. at 9). At trial, petitioner did not show any irregularity in the assessment procedure. Accordingly, we sustain respondent's determination.
[10] Respondent contends that petitioner's position is frivolous and instituted primarily for delay and that, pursuant to section 6673(a)(1), the Court should impose a penalty on petitioner. We decline, however, to impose such a penalty in this case. Contentions we have not addressed are irrelevant, moot, or meritless.
[11] To reflect the foregoing,
[12] An appropriate order and decision will be entered
FOOTNOTE
1 Unless otherwise indicated, all section references are to the Internal Revenue Code as amended.
END OF FOOTNOTE

60 posted on 09/02/2003 4:39:59 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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