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The Coming of Mexifornia - Victor Davis Hanson’s Second Thoughts on Immigration
Hudson Institute ^
| August 21, 2003
| John Fonte
Posted on 08/21/2003 5:14:05 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So, why isn't this guy running for office? He'd get my vote.
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posted on
08/21/2003 5:19:00 AM PDT
by
WestPacSailor
(Klaatu barata nikto.)
To: Tailgunner Joe
I hope George Putnam is reading this. He has been screaming about this problem for over thirty years on Southern California radio. Yes George, go ahead and say it "I told you so!!!!"
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posted on
08/21/2003 5:20:33 AM PDT
by
Russell Scott
(The whole creation groans in pain waiting for the manifestation of Christ's Kingdom)
To: Tailgunner Joe
I take the deterministic view. The problem has already reached critical mass where it is completely self-sustaining ie they have the votes to perpetuate the status quo. If you think it's bad now, just project out another 10 years or so. Arnie is only a stopgap.
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posted on
08/21/2003 5:33:32 AM PDT
by
Snerfling
To: WestPacSailor; Tailgunner Joe
What's interesting is that this guy is a Democrat, and he points out traitorous acts on both sides of the aisle. See what he has to say about wealthy business owners (good Republicans) who hire illegals.
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posted on
08/21/2003 5:37:44 AM PDT
by
risk
To: Tailgunner Joe
(COPY AND DISTRIBUTE WIDELY. Revise and extend as you see necessary, start a movement, print a petition, start a political party, confront your legislators, write letters, post posters, drop leaflets, demand, demand, demand
)
18 POINT ACTION PLAN: Border Violators
1) Close all US borders to illegal entry forthwith by any and all means possible, including military presence.
2) Maintain legitimate immigration levels at modest annual level with requirements that immigrants be employable or sufficiently wealthy for self-support if they do not intend to work, proficient in basic English and willing to be assimilated into American culture and language. All applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples.
3) Legal immigration shall be awarded to individuals on a lottery basis, wherein all countries are given equal status in the immigration lottery, without regards to color or economic plight of originating nation.
4) Individuals of Islamic faith (muslims) from any country shall be denied immigration privileges or entry into the US. Christians and Jews from muslim countries fleeing religious persecution shall receive preferential and accelerated immigration privileges.
5) Detain all border violators, taking photos, prints and DNA samples of said violator while at the same time, checking for out standing warrants. If no warrants are outstanding, return border violators to home country within 20 days via commercial airline and submit cost of such action, including processing and housing costs for said violator, to country of origin. If costs are not paid within 30 days, reduce any and all aid to said country by a like amount.
6) Should any country from which a border violator originates not currently receive any aid from the US, the Justice Department shall be authorized to seize or secure liens on assets owned, managed or registered to that country to the full extent of the obligation.
7) Establish new Guest Worker Visa (GWV) category, renewable every six (6) months, for unskilled labor positions wherein all applicants shall provide prints, photos and DNA samples. Work permitted of such applicants shall be limited to one of several categories, including childcare, lawn/gardening, restaurant staff, cleaning, and the like. Families of GWV workers are not permitted to enter US, nor will the birth of a child to one of GWV status confer citizenship to either parent or child.
8) Any violation of civil or criminal laws shall result in the forfeiture of the GWV and immediate return to originating country.
9) GWV holders shall be prohibited from claiming unemployment benefits, welfare support or free medical service.
10) The originating country of all GWV holders shall be responsible for any uninsured loss caused by the GWV, including emergency medical claims and/or claims resulting from illegal actions committed while in the US.
11) Companies who hire GWV holders shall submit to the Immigration Dept the name and GWV number of that individual, along with a description of employment tasks. Companies shall be subject to fines and penalty that fail to report employment of GWV workers, or hire border violators. GWV workers shall be paid with check, having income tax withheld. GWV workers shall not be subject to unemployment tax because they are not eligible to receive unemployment compensation.
12) Border violators, or any non-citizen not possessing a valid visa, detained by local police for any reason shall be turned over to border control officials for immediate deportation action, except if they face criminal charges in other jurisdictions.
13) GWV workers shall be prohibited for voting in local, state and federal elections.
14) Border Violators shall NOT be afforded the rights enjoyed by American citizens, as guaranteed under the constitution.
15) Public education (at institutions supported by taxpayer dollars) at any level (pre-school, kindergarten through the university level,) shall NOT be available to Border Violators (or children of Border Violators) and schools that enroll such individuals shall be subject to penalties.
16) Foreign Students (F/S) (individuals admitted to the U.S. for the purpose of attending any educational facility,) private institution or public (i.e. supported by taxpayer dollars,) must have valid student visas, such visas being in force only if the F/S attends school full-time. F/S shall be required to pay tuition, housing and related costs such that all their educational costs are fully reimbursed to the institution attended. The originating country shall pay for any and all loss caused by students while on U.S. soil.
17) Border Violators seeking emergency medical treatment shall provide pictures, fingerprints and DNA samples along with country of origin, and shall be treated then incarcerated until information provided can be verified. Originating country shall bear the costs of medical treatment and confinement.
18) Children born in the U.S. to border violators, illegal aliens or of foreign nationals in the U.S. for any reason (including temporary visitor, school or work visas,) shall not be eligible for citizenship as circumstances of birth, nor shall the parents or parents family members (relatives) be conferred U.S. citizenship as a result of such births.
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posted on
08/21/2003 5:43:36 AM PDT
by
Imagine
To: WestPacSailor
Because he chooses not to.
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posted on
08/21/2003 5:47:09 AM PDT
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
To: Imagine
18 POINT ACTION PLAN: Border ViolatorsWhere did you get this? It's great.
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posted on
08/21/2003 5:52:46 AM PDT
by
WestPacSailor
(Klaatu barata nikto.)
To: Imagine
18) Children born in the U.S. to border violators, illegal aliens or of foreign nationals in the U.S. for any reason (including temporary visitor, school or work visas,) shall not be eligible for citizenship as circumstances of birth, nor shall the parents or parents family members (relatives) be conferred U.S. citizenship as a result of such births.Excellent point, and in my humble opinion, the most important!! Children should assume the citizenship status of their parents, be it naturalized, native or illegal. No exceptions. If illegals drop a kid here, make sure he/she is healthy, then them off to Mexico, pronto!
If things persist as they are going, California will become a third world state. This helps nobody. Very stiff fines should be placed on people that hire illegals too. You will get a self-policing action by the union guys here. Publish plenty of "drop a dime on an illegal" numbers, and maybe even give a reward.
To: risk
well the short of it is that the rank and file on both sides of the isle recognize the dangers of uncontrolled migrations. Its the top dems & pubbies that are selling out the country. The dems do it for cheap votes. The pubbies do it for cheap labor.
Pox on both of them.
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posted on
08/21/2003 6:18:32 AM PDT
by
ckilmer
To: Snerfling
"If you think it's bad now, just project out another 10 years or so."
This is primarily why I left California for good back in the late 1970s. I saw it -- especially Southern California -- succumbing to Mexification. Now, the preocess is all but complete. In ten years, California will cease to exist as part of the United States, as its allegiance will be wholeheartedly to Mexico City.
To: DoughtyOne
I know that you and I had a rather heated exchange this week on another thread, but I thought I would ping you to this article by Hanson.
I agree with Hanson 100%.
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posted on
08/21/2003 6:27:33 AM PDT
by
carton253
(All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
To: WestPacSailor
I wrote it several months ago. Has had numerous revisions. Spread the word.
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posted on
08/21/2003 6:40:54 AM PDT
by
Imagine
To: Tailgunner Joe
Soft spoken, thoughtful, articulate. The liberals are going to EAT HIM ALIVE!!!! I saw it happening yesterday on MSNBC.
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posted on
08/21/2003 6:42:52 AM PDT
by
Saundra Duffy
(For victory & freedom!!!)
To: Tailgunner Joe
Outstanding post - thanks for bringing it.
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posted on
08/21/2003 6:46:47 AM PDT
by
lodwick
To: Tailgunner Joe
He best change his views if he wants to continue to be invited to dinner's at the Vice Presidents house, and asked to give lectures to government entities.
Both parties promote open borders Free Trade to the destruction of American sovereignty while ignoring their duty to protect American citizens from invaders and presenting themselves as a clear and present danger to civilian groups dedicated to "only doing the jobs that the Fed won't do" that ensures us all domestic tranquility and a better life.
To: madfly; HiJinx; gubamyster; Tancredo Fan
ping
To: Tailgunner Joe
bttt
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posted on
08/21/2003 8:12:50 AM PDT
by
Gritty
To: SpinyNorman
If things persist as they are going, California will become a third world state.Some of you are a little slow in grasping what is happening, let me help you, "If things persist as they are going, the United States will become a third world country".
To: ought-six
This is primarily why I left California for good back in the late 1970s. I saw it -- especially Southern California Some of you don't quite understand, you can't run from this. 20 years ago it may have been isolated to Cal and Texas, and Arizona. Now it's in your own back yard, where ever you may be.
Your in Illinios right? Where you going to run to next?
___________________________________________________________ Press Releases: Illinios: Mexican Consular ID Card Approved For immediate release
August 5, 2003
The City of Des Plaines Illinion approved Resolution R-80-03 at Monday Nights Council Meeting, August 4, 2003, recognizing the Mexican Consular Identification Card, issued by the Mexican Consulate Generals Office, as a valid form of identification. Mexican Nationals interested in acquiring this identification card will need to contact the Mexican Consulate at 312-855-9933
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