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Posted on 08/07/2003 10:52:17 AM PDT by Long Cut
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To: Squantos
My Sako 75 in that caliber has the 8X Kahles fixed chunk of glass and it is a fine lower 48 "truck gun"............:o) That package is a bit too expensive for me to call a "truck gun." Personally, I'm more comfortable with something that's cost me $200 or less (since I've had a couple of vehicles broken into - in another State ;>). Anything more than that & I worry too much about it disappearing. My No.4 Lee slips under that threshhold, even with the Choate folding stock.
Of course, some folks prefer top-of-the-line "truck guns:" a few years back, the original Winchester Model 70 (serial no. 1) was 'discovered' (with Unertl scope) riding in a gun rack in a pickup truck. Apparently it's worth something over $100,000...
(But I guess it made a passable "truck gun:" the owner said it shot straight... ;>)
801
posted on
02/22/2004 12:13:28 AM PST
by
Who is John Galt?
("Militiamen are terrible when angered and will carry flame & fire to the enemy." - de Guibert, 1771)
To: Criminal Number 18F
The weapons built to the original FN design were "metric" FALs in that the drawings they were made from were dimensioned in the metric system. They used standard metric threads and fasteners. Here is a partial list of the "standard metric threads" used in the "metric" FAL:
Bbl to receiver: 1X16 tpi (except Israeli ;>)
Screw for mag release and BHO: #10X32
Pistol grip stud/nut: 1/4X28 tpi
Buttstock double threaded nut: female 1/4X28 tpi; male 9/16X24 tpi
Handguard screw: #10X32
Front sling swivel screw: #8X40
Rear sight windage screws: #8X40
Pivot bolt: 1/4X32 tpi
Front sight pin: #12X28
Gas tube/gas block: 17/32X36 tpi
Rear support cap: 9/16X24 tpi
Belgium Long flash suppressor screw: #8X40
Israeli FALO coupler and muzzle: 11/16X24 tpi
Again, these are for the "metric" FAL: "inch" pattern rifles may have different threads altogether (L1A1 front sight, for example). For all I know, these may indeed be standard "metric" - but I have been advised (by someone who has apparently seen the dimensioned drawings ;>) that some of these 'convert' to nonstandard "metric" threads, and are so marked on the drawings...
;>)
802
posted on
02/22/2004 1:41:49 AM PST
by
Who is John Galt?
("Militiamen are terrible when angered and will carry flame & fire to the enemy." - de Guibert, 1771)
To: Long Cut
If you would like to see a ballistics chart comparing the 6.5 Grendel to the 5.56 NATO, 7.62 NATO and 6.8 Rem SPC, email me at
akb@competitionshooting.com and I will email back a pdf file for your review.
803
posted on
02/25/2004 2:17:47 PM PST
by
tx65
To: *bang_list; archy; Travis McGee; Squantos; PoorMuttly; Eaker; Shooter 2.5; Centurion2000; All
804
posted on
03/24/2004 3:14:14 PM PST
by
Long Cut
("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
To: All
And, of course, a pic of this new toy...
805
posted on
03/24/2004 3:17:07 PM PST
by
Long Cut
("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
To: Long Cut
wow, that's a green machine!
806
posted on
03/28/2004 12:23:23 AM PST
by
VOA
To: Squantos; Travis McGee; archy; tx65
BUMP to post 804.
807
posted on
03/28/2004 8:11:58 AM PST
by
Long Cut
("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
To: Long Cut
If Eugene Stoner could only see how far his baby has gone!
808
posted on
03/28/2004 9:33:22 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
I bet he had no idea. In fact, I know he didn't...that's why he designed the AR-18 as an improvement on the 15.
809
posted on
03/28/2004 9:35:59 AM PST
by
Long Cut
("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
To: *bang_list; archy; Travis McGee; Criminal Number 18F; tx65; Squantos; Woahhs; PoorMuttly; Eaker; ...
Got some new news on the XM-8 project. Some improvements have been asked for by the Army...
AIM HERE.
One of the interesting things on the list is a request for standby IRON sights. That's something I think we could all agree on.
810
posted on
03/29/2004 4:08:01 PM PST
by
Long Cut
("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
To: Long Cut
I swear, there must have been 100 companies at the SHOT show selling M-15 variants and accessories.
811
posted on
03/29/2004 8:51:00 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Travis McGee
I wish I could've gone to that. Is is open to us regular folk?
Sad for me, too, as I'm really not all that big a fan of the AR.
It's getting tough to find anything else, nowadays.
812
posted on
03/29/2004 9:07:58 PM PST
by
Long Cut
("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
To: Long Cut
I bet he had no idea. In fact, I know he didn't...that's why he designed the AR-18 as an improvement on the 15. And the Stoner 63 as well, of course. You can get pretty close to that with the Robinson M96 Expeditionary Rifle, and the interchangable barrels and easily replacable feed block makes an adaptation of a more reliable magazine in one of the more effective cartrides an easy change from the 5,56mm standard.
![](http://www.waffenhq.de/infanterie/stoner63_03.jpg)
813
posted on
03/29/2004 11:06:10 PM PST
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: archy
I've heard that the Stoner 63 really wasn't all it was cracked up to be. The Robinson, on the other hand, is supposedly excellent.
I'd have bought one by now, if the price was a little less.
Sigh. One income (E-6 pay) and a new baby have pretty much negated the weapons purchases for now.
814
posted on
03/30/2004 3:45:34 AM PST
by
Long Cut
("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
To: Long Cut
***I've heard that the Stoner 63 really wasn't all it was cracked up to be. The Robinson, on the other hand, is supposedly excellent.
I'd have bought one by now, if the price was a little less.***
The Navy SEALS used and liked their Mark 23 Mod 0 Stoners, but they're way beyond the average grunt both in terms of ability to keep one clean and their ability to scrounge parts, and in their uses and requirements.
But I'm betting that if the 6,8 cartridge goes anyplace, the M96 will really take off in popularity.
The butt isn't a particular good fit for me, but that can be fixed easily and cheap enough. Nice little weapon, and priced better than a M249 SAW.
815
posted on
03/30/2004 4:44:37 AM PST
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
To: Bonesaw
PING!
This thread has tracked the development of this rifle for over seven months. Many stories, photos, and info links can be found here. ENJOY!
816
posted on
04/05/2004 5:02:58 AM PDT
by
Long Cut
(Hell of a thing, killin' a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have)
To: *bang_list; Travis McGee; archy; Squantos; Woahhs; PoorMuttly; tx65; Chinese_American_Patriot; ...
Updated information
AT THIS THREAD, with a review at post #38 from Archy, who has actually fired the XM-8, to the envy of us all.
817
posted on
04/17/2004 12:32:28 PM PDT
by
Long Cut
("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
To: All; archy
And also courtesy of the ubiquitous Archy, a flyer from HK, with some pics...
![](http://www.thermaldynamics.com/pictures/xm8-2.jpg)
Thanks, Arch!
818
posted on
04/17/2004 12:36:19 PM PDT
by
Long Cut
("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
To: samuel_adams_us
Hopefully, it's more like the AK-47 than the M-16.
To: Long Cut
And also courtesy of the ubiquitous Archy, ... . Thanks, Arch!
I am not either a British Army/pommie artilleryman!
820
posted on
04/17/2004 1:11:34 PM PDT
by
archy
(The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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