PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE [BARF ALERT - ANTI-GOP PROPAGANDA]

NewsWithViews.com ^ | May 9, 2003 | By David Brownlow

[Luis Gonzalez]

Freddy..some balls you have.

Answer my question.

[Jim Robinson]

Well, we seem to have the same group of characters rounded up here to oppose this bill as we've seen opposing just about everything to do with Bush or the GOP (or FR for that matter). And most of them claim to be Libertarians, Paleocons, Buchananites, Reformers, Constitutionists (the Party not the real deal), etc, etc, etc.

So, are you claiming to be a Libertarian? Are you opposed to this legislation? Do you believe UncleBill's slander piece?

[Luis Gonzalez]

Absolutely.

If they perform the PBA, and they can't prove that it was needed in order to save the mother's life...they go to jail.

[Fred Mertz]

He's already said that not one doctor would recommend it. How can he name a doctor that will?

He can't because that's the beauty of this bill. They'll spring up after it's passed.

[honeygrl]

FWIW, You might as well be arguing with a wall.. your point seems to go totally over their head. I don't think they are actually reading your posts. They are just skimming them for some little sliver they can remove to argue with you over.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"You would not hold the abortionist accountable."

Kevin, don't put words in my mouth, then attack me for something I never said...it's old already.

The abortionist would go to jail if he or she can't prove that the original doctor's opinion was wrong.

And BTW, the kind of scumbag you keep talking about will perform the abortion even if all kinds of abortions were made illegal in the US.

So, seeing that we can't stop these scumbags you are so fond of holding up as examples of the medical profession, we should not pass any anti-abortion laws at all?

[longtermmemmory]

What does pro-life groups expect? opps sorry nevermind. Granting abortion did not happen with one step, it was a series of steps. The counter will take an equal if not more steps.

If anything, science will be key in changing people's minds. (artifical wombs, fetus transplantations to surrogates, etc.)

[honeygrl]

"Name one doctor who will say that a partial birth abortion is EVER medically necessary to save a woman's life. Just ONE. "

I think his point is that if it's NEVER medically necessary (or even very rarely) then that exception in the ban doesn't make much difference because it won't need to be used. (Luis if i got the point wrong, feel free to correct me)

[Luis Gonzalez]

I know.

They are so transparent.

[Jim Robinson]

This bill prohibits partial birth abortion only.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Nope, you got it.

[windchime]

"And the value she puts on every single life is: Can they be of any use to forward my agenda."


That keyword 'use'....again. HRC would be scared to death if she knew how transparent she is.

[Fred Mertz]

So, seeing that we can't stop these scumbags you are so fond of holding up as examples of the medical profession, we should not pass any anti-abortion laws at all?

With your triple negative statement, what are you really trying to say?

[Kevin Curry]

I'm going to have to study the legislation more carefully to find its underlying "strategery." There are some Republican Senators supporting it (such as Hatch) that I don't trust. But Santorum has his head screwed on straight and has always seemed to be a stand-up guy. I have no reason to believe he would sell out.

[Luis Gonzalez]

It's sleight of hand to harm the GOP and GOP candidates.

They are all screaming that the bill does not do something that was never promised it would do.

Bush never said that he would end late term abortions, did he?

[M0sby]

OK, I get it.

[CWOJackson]

"I have no reason to believe he would sell out."

Which is exactly what some of the shrews minions would want us to believe.

[Mo1]

Now suppose an abortionist reviews the charts and performs a partial birth-abortion anyway. When asked why he did this to a healthy mother and healthy twins he shrugs his shoulders and says, "I know she and the twins looked healthy but in my opinion she would have died had she taken them to term."

He better be able to prove it without a doubt.. otherwise he is going to jail and will have one hell of a malpractice suit

[Luis Gonzalez]

He did not sell out.

Answer one question honestly to me.

As far as that part in the bill about supporting Roe v. Wade...would you have signed it in order to get this bill through, and save some babie's lives?

I would have sworn undying love for Hillary to get this passed.