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PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTION BAN - THE BETRAYAL IS NOW COMPLETE [BARF ALERT - ANTI-GOP PROPAGANDA]
NewsWithViews.com ^ | May 9, 2003 | By David Brownlow

Posted on 08/02/2003 10:39:40 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

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To: Luis Gonzalez
No. If the choice is between the mother's life and the child's life, let the mother live.

What does that have to do with partial-birth abortion--which is never indicated, and is done solely for convenience, not because it is the best or safest procedure?

341 posted on 08/05/2003 9:18:54 PM PDT by Kevin Curry (Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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To: Fred Mertz; Luis Gonzalez
Thank you for responding to Luis's question, Fred.
342 posted on 08/05/2003 9:19:00 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Partial birth abortion is never done to save the mother's life. There is never any medical reason to do a partial birth abortion. You just don't get it.

Name a doctor who will say that a partial birth abortion was ever necessary to save a woman's life. Name one.
343 posted on 08/05/2003 9:19:10 PM PDT by Judith Anne (O, ICURAQT. IMAQT2. ;-D)
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To: Mo1; Judith Anne
I see no need for PBA and I don't by the excuse the libs use about saving the mother's life

You, me, Judith Anne, and Bill Frist.


344 posted on 08/05/2003 9:19:15 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Dump Davis)
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To: Kevin Curry
But the doctor is wrong. According to the great weight of medical opinion, partial-birth abortion is never indicated.

I could almost hug you, Kevin, for your statement of fact. Too bad you have garlic breath.

345 posted on 08/05/2003 9:19:47 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: William Terrell
Regarding section 1531, the definition of partial birth abortion as used in that section, does this mean that any less than the entire head is exposed, or the legs and pelvis only of the child are exposed, the abortion can be performed?

I'm so tired and this makes me so sick...did anyone answer your question???
What if NO PART of the "Fetus" is delivered, can they just go up and kill it in the uterous and what they can come up with a poison/radiation ..I don't know, anything???
Isn't it the KILLING of the fetus(BABY!!!!) that is the issue..not where it is when you kill it??

346 posted on 08/05/2003 9:20:45 PM PDT by M0sby (Proud Marine Corp's Wife!)
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To: Mo1
Mo, the ONLY permissible PBA according to this bill, is one that according to doctors, is never needed.

So the provision would never be used because the doctors would need to justify it after the fact, and 99.9% of the time, they can't.

It's a smoke screen, but it needs to be there to defeat the argument that I was making.

I don't think you can ever place doctors in a position where they need to consult an attorney before doing what they think it's right in order to save a life.
347 posted on 08/05/2003 9:20:49 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (LP is bragging that they got over 100 new members this month...they were all me guys :-))
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To: sport
"They know that they cannot destroy President Bush head on, but they hope that by spreading lies and creating desention by their fifth columnists to nibble away his support bite-by-bite."

And they have some very willing or very naive assistance by some so-called conservatives.

348 posted on 08/05/2003 9:22:08 PM PDT by CWOJackson (Somebody relieve the poor creature before she breaks her fingers over there.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I give doctors the license to save lives.

You give doctors license to slaughter the innocent for sake of convenience and then hide like a craven coward behind a smokescreen called "endangerment of the mother's life." It's a dispicable tactic. I'm going to rub your nose in it.

349 posted on 08/05/2003 9:22:29 PM PDT by Kevin Curry (Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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To: Kevin Curry
"...on his own arbitrary whim?"

Most doctors are not the scumbags you and Fred portray them to be, they make life and death choices nearly daily in emergency rooms, seldom based on "arbitrary whims". To speak of them so flippantly is absurd and ignorant.

350 posted on 08/05/2003 9:24:26 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (LP is bragging that they got over 100 new members this month...they were all me guys :-))
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I don't think you can ever place doctors in a position where they need to consult an attorney before doing what they think it's right in order to save a life.

The they may murder freely, as long as they privately and subjectively decide it is necessary?

351 posted on 08/05/2003 9:24:28 PM PDT by Kevin Curry (Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Mo, the ONLY permissible PBA according to this bill, is one that according to doctors, is never needed.

Give me some of whatever you're smoking and I'll go to La-La Land too.

352 posted on 08/05/2003 9:24:53 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: M0sby
Well, get this bill passed and signed into law saving the thousands of babies that are currently being slaugtered by partial birth abortion, then start work on getting the next bill through that will save the lives of those killed by other procedures.

353 posted on 08/05/2003 9:25:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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To: Kevin Curry
"You give doctors license to slaughter the innocent for sake of convenience"

Are you starting the lies again Kevin?

Never being able to actually make points without lying seems to be all the rage with you.

354 posted on 08/05/2003 9:25:52 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (LP is bragging that they got over 100 new members this month...they were all me guys :-))
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To: Luis Gonzalez; Kevin Curry; Jim Robinson; Judith Anne; justshe

Clearly, everything possible must be done in order to save both lives.

355 posted on 08/05/2003 9:26:18 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Fred Mertz
Read the bill Fred...if you can read that is.
356 posted on 08/05/2003 9:26:27 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (LP is bragging that they got over 100 new members this month...they were all me guys :-))
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Let's assume 90 percent are not "scumbags" (a red herring, by the way--not one made such a sweeping generlaization). You wuld still allow the 10 percent of scumbags free license to murder freely and arbitrarilty?

BTW, abortionists are scumbags.

357 posted on 08/05/2003 9:27:10 PM PDT by Kevin Curry (Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)
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To: Kevin Curry
(Put Justice Janice Rogers Brown on the Supreme Court--NOW)

Your tagline rocks. Wonder how this legislation would be different if JRB was on the SCOTUS instead of Sandra Day O'Connor?


358 posted on 08/05/2003 9:27:17 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Dump Davis)
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To: Fred Mertz
"Give me some of whatever you're smoking..."

Don't mix drugs Fred. Wait until you come out from whatever you're already on.

359 posted on 08/05/2003 9:27:28 PM PDT by CWOJackson (Smile for the odd balls...)
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To: Cultural Jihad
Absolutely.

Sometimes, hard choices must be made in a very short period of time.
360 posted on 08/05/2003 9:27:39 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (LP is bragging that they got over 100 new members this month...they were all me guys :-))
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