[TheCrusader]

"It was his popularity with the Jewish people that caused Jesus to be killed by the ruling Roman authorities; and it was Jews who took Jesus off the cross, prepared him for "burial," mourned him, and then got the blame for the crime."

Whovever wrote this article is trying desparately to rewrite history. I will prove from all gospel accounts that it was the Jews who arrested Jesus, put him on trial and condemned Him to death for 'blashpemy', abused Him, and then coerced Pilate through a huge, angry mob, to crucify Jeusus. Pilate made no less than five separate attempts to save Jesus from the Jews, but when they became unruly and threatened to take the matter to Ceasar, Pilate finally relented. Read what the Bible records:

"Upon this Pilate sought to release him, but the Jews cried out, "If you release this man, you are not Caesar's friend; every one who makes himself a king sets himself against Caesar." (John 19:12)

Now read the rest of the dialogue:

"When Pilate heard these words, he brought Jesus out and sat down on the judgment seat at a place called The Pavement, and in Hebrew, Gabbatha. Now it was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about the sixth hour. He said to the Jews, "Behold your King!" They cried out, "Away with him, away with him, crucify him!" Pilate said to them, "Shall I crucify your King?" The chief priests answered, "We have no king but Caesar." Then he handed him over to them to be crucified". (John 19: 13-16)

Now, on several prior occasions the Jews tried to stone Jesus, push Him off a cliff, and arrest Him for the crime of 'blasphemy', punishable by death according to Jewish law. Read on:

"The Jews took up stones again to stone him. Jesus answered them, "I have shown you many good works from the Father; for which of these do you stone me? The Jews answered him, 'It is not for a good work that we stone you but for blasphemy; because you, being a man, make yourself God." (John 10: 31-33)

"Again they tried to arrest him, but he escaped from their hands". (John 10:39)

Who arrested Jesus and placed Him on trial, the Jews or the Romans? The Bible tells us that it was the Jews:

"While he was still speaking, Judas came, one of the twelve, and with him a great crowd with swords and clubs, from the chief priests and the elders of the people". (Mathew 26:47)

Did the Jews take Jesus to Pilate for condemnation, or to their own their own high priest Caiaphas? Read what the Bible says:

So the band of soldiers and their captain and the officers of the Jews seized Jesus and bound him. First they led him to Annas; for he was the father-in-law of Caiaphas, who was high priest that year. It was Caiaphas who had given counsel to the Jews that it was expedient that one man should die for the people". <(John 18:12-14)

Pilate tried desparately to release Jesus from the mob of Jews, for he sensed His innocense:

"Pilate then called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people, and said to them, "You brought me this man as one who was perverting the people; and after examining him before you, behold, I did not find this man guilty of any of your charges against him" (Luke 23: 13-14)

Pilate tries once again to release Jesus, again proclaiming His innocence, but the Jews persist in forcing Christ's death:

"Behold, nothing deserving death has been done by him; I will therefore chastise him and release him." But they all cried out together, "Away with this man, and release to us Barabbas" (Luke 23: 16-18)

Pilate, not wanting to condemn an innocent man, yet again attempts to save Jesus' life:

"Pilate addressed them once more, desiring to release Jesus; but they shouted out, "Crucify, crucify him!" (Luke 23: 20-21)

Pontius Pilate is still not ready to give up Jesus to the Jews, and he pleads for Jesus' life one more time:

"A third time Pilate said to them, "Why, what evil has he done? I have found in him no crime deserving death; I will therefore chastise him and release him." But they were urgent, demanding with loud cries that he should be crucified. And their voices prevailed." (Luke 23: 22-23)

So we see in the gospel of John and Luke that it was the Jews who betrayed, arrested, tried, and unrelentingly demanded the death of Jesus, against the strong wishes of the Roman Procurator, Pontius Pilate. Now let's see what Mathew records about the event:

"While he was still speaking, Judas came, one of the twelve, and with him a great crowd with swords and clubs, from the chief priests and the elders of the people". (Mathew 26:47)

"Then those who had seized Jesus led him to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders had gathered---Now the chief priests and the whole council sought false testimony against Jesus that they might put him to death", (Mathew 26:57-59)

It was the Jews who condemned Jesus, spat in His face and ridiculed Him, as Mathew records:

" Then the high priest tore his robes, and said, "He has uttered blasphemy. Why do we still need witnesses? You have now heard his blasphemy. What is your judgment?" They answered, "He deserves death." Then they spat in his face, and struck him; and some slapped him, saying, "Prophesy to us, you Christ! Who is it that struck you?" (Mathew 26: 65-67)

Finally, here are the most self-condemning words ever spoken by mankind, and they even carry a condemnation for indeterminate generations to come, for obvious reasons:

"And Pilate said, "Why, what evil has he done?" But they shouted all the more, "Let him be crucified." So when Pilate saw that he was gaining nothing, but rather that a riot was beginning, he took water and washed his hands before the crowd, saying, "I am innocent of this righteous man's blood; see to it yourselves." AND ALL THE PEOPLE ANSWERED, "HIS BLOOD BE ON US, AND ON OUR CHILDREN!" (Mathew 27: 23-25)

God bless Mel Gibson for his beautiful story that tells the truth about the Passion and death of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

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[Smedley]

"The Jews" didn't kill Jesus. A number of people who happened to be Jewish did.

The crimes of a few don't impute to an entire race -- unless you want to claim "The Americans" shot John Lennon.

[farmfriend]

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[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

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[nmh]

The Romans carried out the wishes of the Jews. Pontious Pilate "washed" his hands of the matter. SO what's the big deal with that? Does that mean I view all Jews as Jesus killers? No, because in the Bible, God determined that the Jews would reject the Messiah and Jesus would be the ultimate sacrafice for us so we could all go to heaven if we believe in Jesus. I'm grateful this happened otherwise I wouldn't be a candidate for heaven. He paid my price and that IS what is important.

[nmh]

My, my, your source - "Jewsweek ^ | 7/31/03 | Regenstein" ... . Another Jewish person and an extremely Jewish paperblaming the Romans ... . Geesh!

[ETERNAL WARMING]

It was the Romans, not the Jews, who were the Christ killers

Wrong. The choice was given to the Jewish religious leaders. THEY were the ones who are responsible for the death of Jesus Christ.

[quietolong]

Here’s a Jewish group that says they did us all a favor.

Who Was Jesus?

I don't think it's Mel Gibson who needs to take a history class

[rwfromkansas]

What BS. As if this writer has no agenda?

The Jewish religious leaders were very much active in attempting to "get" Jesus all through his life, even to the very end.

It wasn't Romans who screamed "crucify him!"

[PFKEY]

who really killed Jesus

We are all guilty.

But thanks be to God that he would allow us to murder his only begotten Son so that we might have a home with Him in heaven when this life has passed.

[CyberAnt]

It was both! The Roman soldiers carried out the act, but it was the Jews who approved the sentence. Actually, it was all of us!

[razorbak]

The crucifixion of Christ was a joint operation by Gentiles and Jews. That is what the movie will show if it is as close to the biblical account as I've heard it is. The only reason the Jews religious leaders did not kill Jesus themselves, is because the Romans did not allow them to inflict capitol punishment. The Jewish religious leaders, however, put pressure on Pilate to do their deed for them. But Pilate could have said no. Even the Jewish Bible tells the stories of Jewish prophets who were persecuted and sometimes killed by their own Jewish brethren. Every people group on earth, at some point in their history has wrongly condemned and executed someone.

[Rodney King]

So, the liberals erringly criticze a movie they havent't seen, and based on that Mel needs to take a history class? WTF is wrong with this man's brain? (the author of this article, that is).

[Bryan24]

The easiest way to refute error is with The Truth.

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Luk 23:1 And the whole multitude of them arose, and led him unto Pilate.

Luk 23:2 And they began to accuse him, saying, We found this [fellow] perverting the nation, and forbidding to give tribute to Caesar, saying that he himself is Christ a King.

Luk 23:3 And Pilate asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And he answered him and said, Thou sayest [it].

Luk 23:4 Then said Pilate to the chief priests and [to] the people, I find no fault in this man.

Luk 23:5 And they were the more fierce, saying, He stirreth up the people, teaching throughout all Jewry, beginning from Galilee to this place.

Luk 23:6 When Pilate heard of Galilee, he asked whether the man were a Galilaean.

Luk 23:7 And as soon as he knew that he belonged unto Herod's jurisdiction, he sent him to Herod, who himself also was at Jerusalem at that time.

Luk 23:8 And when Herod saw Jesus, he was exceeding glad: for he was desirous to see him of a long [season], because he had heard many things of him; and he hoped to have seen some miracle done by him.

Luk 23:9 Then he questioned with him in many words; but he answered him nothing.

Luk 23:10 And the chief priests and scribes stood and vehemently accused him.

Luk 23:11 And Herod with his men of war set him at nought, and mocked [him], and arrayed him in a gorgeous robe, and sent him again to Pilate.

Luk 23:12 And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves.

Luk 23:13 And Pilate, when he had called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people,

Luk 23:14 Said unto them, Ye have brought this man unto me, as one that perverteth the people: and, behold, I, having examined [him] before you, have found no fault in this man touching those things whereof ye accuse him:

Luk 23:15 No, nor yet Herod: for I sent you to him; and, lo, nothing worthy of death is done unto him.

Luk 23:16 I will therefore chastise him, and release [him].

Luk 23:17 (For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.)

Luk 23:18 And they cried out all at once, saying, Away with this [man], and release unto us Barabbas:

Luk 23:19 (Who for a certain sedition made in the city, and for murder, was cast into prison.)

Luk 23:20 Pilate therefore, willing to release Jesus, spake again to them.

Luk 23:21 But they cried, saying, Crucify [him], crucify him.

Luk 23:22 And he said unto them the third time, Why, what evil hath he done? I have found no cause of death in him: I will therefore chastise him, and let [him] go.

Luk 23:23 And they were instant with loud voices, requiring that he might be crucified. And the voices of them and of the chief priests prevailed.

Luk 23:24 And Pilate gave sentence that it should be as they required.

Luk 23:25 And he released unto them him that for sedition and murder was cast into prison, whom they had desired; but he delivered Jesus to their will.




Acts 2:36 - Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.

Act 2:37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

[sweet_diane]

I'm looking forward to seeing the movie... I understand that Mr. Gibson feels compelled to make this movie and as a fan of his, I feel compelled to see it. :)

I don't have time to read all this thread but I do want to share with ya'll a book I found very interesting that chronicles the last week of Christ's life, Og Mandino's The Christ Commission. I found the old paperback on the shelf at a Drug and Alcohol Treatment center where I volunteer and couldn't put it down! It can be found over at amazon, should anyone be interested.

[opus86]

The author of this article is a bozo who mustn't be taken seriously. What was that saying about never arguing with a fool?

[windcliff]

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[Pan_Yans Wife]

Thank you for posting this.

My take is simple.

The modern Jews want to blame the Romans.

The Romans, who don't exist anymore, don't blame anyone.

And, everyone is guilty of the sin that Christ paid on the cross, me included.

But, I admit to believing, so that must prove I have an agenda! ;)

[Aliska]

John 19 11Jesus answered, "You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above. Therefore the one who handed me over to you is guilty of a greater sin."

[chickenlips]

I have an idea. Let's get out those dusty ole Bibles and look up Isaiah 53. As we read it we should pay special attetnion to verses 4 and 10. I could be wrong, but there may be a clue there.