Free Republic: Not for the weak

Houmatt | Matthew Mason

[arasina]

Why don't they just go to one of the many libertarian clones of FR instead of trying to change us?

There's a precedent for that penchant for invading a principle or purpose. Use "freedom of speech" to undermine anything and everything (for example, homosexuals demanding to march in the St. Patrick's Day parade, or local school organizations requiring students to immerse themselves in certain "studies") and erode the foundation of the principle on which an organization/forum/country was formed. Go deep into the backbone to topple the building above that foundation. Erase, then replace that building with first a facade, followed by an enticing exterior and a multi-colored neon sign stating "All Are Welcome." No caveat for the chaos that reigns within.

I'm obviously writing of more than just FreeRepublic and the attempts to change it into something other than what it is. It seems to me that one basic right that has been lost is the freedom to discriminate. Yes, discrimination can be dangerous if it means only to show favoritism. It has many other definitions: to distinguish, tell apart, or differentiate, among others. How can one defend the foundation against invaders if they enter disguised and then cry "profiling!" if you stop them at the gate? (see 9/11/01, Michigan Law School entry requirements, etc.)

Jim Robinson didn't create this website forum to be a Libertarian, Democrat or Anarchist free-for-all. Sure, all are welcome to join in the debate but not to destroy the foundation.

I joined FreeRepublic to find respite from the "All Leftist, All The Time" horde that is surrounding the "Freedom with Responsibility Castle." I came here to find a gathering place that would provide strength against those barbarian thugs that want to tear into our Constitution and change our flag into a rag. I sought ammunition/facts to use in personal debate. I found those things and feel quite at home here. I thought Libertarians were supposed to be strong proponents of personal freedoms; does that not include the right to defend one's website/intellectual property?

[Houmatt]

There's a precedent for that penchant for invading a principle or purpose. Use "freedom of speech" to undermine anything and everything (for example, homosexuals demanding to march in the St. Patrick's Day parade, or local school organizations requiring students to immerse themselves in certain "studies") and erode the foundation of the principle on which an organization/forum/country was formed. Go deep into the backbone to topple the building above that foundation. Erase, then replace that building with first a facade, followed by an enticing exterior and a multi-colored neon sign stating "All Are Welcome." No caveat for the chaos that reigns within.

So there are those who come here with the sole intention of trying to destroy the site from within. I am getting that feeling as well.

[Sabertooth]

They still haven't come up with a name for male Bush supporters. I think they must be afraid of the guys.

I thought "Bushbot" was unisex.

[Sabertooth]

I'm sick and tired of my life being controlled by the feminist/abortionist/homosexualist/gungrabbing/American hating cowardly liberal, thus I am 100% behind removing as many of their evil carcasses as possible from our government and keeping them out!

So, was it a good idea for President Bush and Karl Rove to try and get Richard Riordan installed as Governor of California last year?

[headsonpikes]

"Have concluded that I can't please everyone so I please myself."

That's why this forum works - no dodging of personal responsibility!

Nolo illegitimi carborundum. ;^)

[Mr. Silverback]

Neets was being facetious. (sheesh)

Well then, that's clarified. Thank you, and sorry for being so dense.

[Imagine]

I didn't know that's how you spell "tuchis"

[Allegra]

How can you vote for him 4 different times, when he has ran for political office 3 times, Gov. of Texas, 94 and 98, and president in 2000?

Texas Primary 2000. He's gotten four of my votes too.

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

there is a difference between 'pay for service' and 'donations'. There is no fee to belong to this site but if you are willing to do so out of the kindness in your heart, you may donate money. Payment is optional. you are still a guest. It is equivilent to staying at someone's house and offering to buy groceries.

I do not kiss ass but I am polite . . . There's a thick line between the two.

[Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)]

Well said, arasina. Thank you.

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

wait. I've been away for awhile, tending to may daughter. When did TBLSHOW. When did he get banned? what did he say?

[Big Guy and Rusty 99]

We keep splitting and splitting . . .

This is how we lost the election in 1992. We must have unity but not conformity. Like I've said earlier (which was misread as a$$kissing): This is your house, you make the rules. You do not charge us a fee to be here but you ask us to donate every so often (like PBS without all the communism) and in the end, a pay service like AOL has a terms of service agreement which is much more strict than your rules. If someone ticks them off by breaking their TOS, AOL pulls the plug on them.

[Jim Robinson]

Was not good IMHO and I disagreed with it. Guess they believed Riordan had potential to actually get elected in California and Simon did not. I backed Simon. I lost. California lost. We all lost. Big time!

[I got the rope]

Are you out of your mind? I love Bush, but I don't always agree with him! FF is ranting? You need to grow the hell up!

LOL...good one...DUmmy.

[Sabertooth]

I voted for Simon in the primary too, to head off Riordan, but the best candidate would have been CA Secretary of State Bill Jones, the only GOP statewide officeholder. Jones has experience and wouldn't have shown the ineptitude of Simon, and would likely have beaten Davis. Unfortunately, President Bush and Karl Rove still needed to exact political payback against Jones for supporting John McCain in the 2000 primary. As a result, the RNC backed pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-Illegal Alien, anti-gun Dick Riordan, the worst of the three GOP gubernatorial candidates in 2002.

What happens in the primaries should stay in the primaries. McCain left all that aside and campaigned for Bush in the 2000 general election. He may be a loose cannon in the Senate, but he knew when to close ranks in the interests of party loyalty.

Given that, why couldn't President Bush forego settling his political score against Bill Jones, and instead work for the best interests of California Republicans?

[Jim Robinson]

Who knows. I'm not privy to their stratagerial sessions.

[joesbucks]

Why don't they just go to one of the many libertarian clones of FR instead of trying to change us?

Change someone? Aren't we all trying to change someone? Libertarians trying to change conseratives, conservatives trying to change libs and moderates and vice versa. We're all trying to change someone. Even JR.

[jjbrouwer]

I miss Rowdee.

I miss JJ.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

I thought everyone has an X10 camera.

[Neets]

Truth is truth and sure is powerful truth ratty rat rat.