[DPB101]

Horowitz: Why is she equivocating about Jack Kennedy anyway? Kennedy was not only not a traitor, he was not even a weak anti-Communist, as she claims.

Treason, page 11:

"John F. Kennedy's pronouncements on Communism could have been spoken by Joe McCarthy. His brother Robert worked for McCarthy."

( page 101)"John F. Kennedy fiercely defended McCarthy. . .in response to a speaker's lighthearted remarks that, unlike the law school, Harvard College could be proud of never having produced either an Alger Hiss or a Joe McCarthy, Kennedy erupted, "How dare you couple the name of a great American patriot with that of a traitor?"

Horowitz:" . . .by refusing to credit the laudable role played by patriotic, anti-Communist liberals like Truman, Kennedy and Humphrey, Coulter has compromised her case . . ."

Treason, page 11:

"There were, admittedly, a few rare and striking exceptions to the left's overall obtuseness to Communist totalitarianism. The Democratic Party was certainly more patriotic then than it has become. Throughtout the sixties, the Democrats could still produce the occasional Scoop Jackson Democrat . (JFK's statments on communism ) could have been spoken by Joe McCarthy . . .for all his flaws, President Harry Truman was a completely different breed than today's Democrats: He unquestionably loved his country

( page 68) . . .Walter Reuther and Hubert Humphrey. . .were far rougher with Communists than McCarthy ever was. . .in 1954 Senator Humphrey introduced a bill that would have outlawed the Communist Party. Outlawed it. That was the year the Senate voted to censure McCarthy. . .

Horowitz: There were many liberals – Scoop Jackson and Jeanne Kirkpatrick among them – who were just as worthy defenders of America and prosecutors of the anti-Communist cause . . .

Treason, page 180:

New York Times columnist Flora Lewis scoffed at Jeane Kirkpatrick's "remarkable" claim...that "the Russians had nearly taken over until the Reagan administration." Where? Lewis demanded to know. As Ambassador Kirkpatrick said in her speech--just a sentence or two later--in the decade preceding Reagan's inauguration, the Soviets had expanded their influence into South Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Angola, Ethiopia, Mozambique, South Yemen, Libya, Syria, Aden, Congo, Madagascar, the Seychelles, Nicaragua and Grenada. Other than that, no place really.

Horowitz:"The problem with Coulter’s book is that she is not willing to concede that McCarthy was, in fact, demagogic in any sense at all, or that that his recklessness injured the anti-Communist cause."

That wasn't the book Ann wanted to write. There are more than a few books available--hundreds probably--which "concede" McCarthy was "demagogic" and "injured the anti-communist cause." If David Horowitz feels the need for another, he should write one himself.

Ann Coulter didn't "concede" he injured the anti-Communist cause because she doesn't believe he did.
Treason Page 70

The rote smirking at McCarthy by conservatives is linked to their own psychological compulsion to snobbery. McCarthy was a popularizer, a brawler. Republican elitists abhor demagogic appeals to working-class Democrats. Fighting like a Democrat is a breech of etiquette worse than using the wrong fork. McCarthy is sniffed at for not playing by Marquis of Queensberry Rules--rules of engagement demanded only of Republicans. Well, without McCarthy, Republicans might be congratulating themselves on their excellent behavior from the gulag right now. He may have been tut-tutted on the golf course, but McCarthy made the American workers' blood boil.

[DPB101]

The conservative clash continues. . .

[Richard Kimball]

Thanks for the ping. Bump to a good post.

[hoosiermama]

You should send a copy of post #1 to Horowitz. Excellant work!

[jagrmeister]

McCarthy was right- former KGB operatives confirm they had hundreds of agents in most American govt. bureaucracies, including the State department. McCarthy was savaged during his life and demonized afterwards by the leftist mongrels that McCarthy tried to hold accountible while alive. Communists had sunk their tentacles into the US (just as we tried to influence the USSR) and New Dealers were aiding and abetting them. One man was brave enough to stand up to them- it's unfortunate that the leftist media and historians have branded McCarthy a villain for his courageous efforts.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

Perhaps the lexicon of the New Left is helpful. During the 1960s, those timid souls who feared the real power of communism called themselves “non-communist” as opposed to “anti-communist”or “communist.” In the war against communism, Republicans leaders were “anti-traitors” and Soviet agents in America were “traitors.” What then were the Democrat leaders? How about calling [them] “non-traitors”?

Ping for a very good piece on Treason.

[jocon307]

"The motivation was simple: swing the increasingly close election to Hubert Humphrey by creating an the impression that peace was at hand. Who paid the price for that political pragmatism? America and the South Vietnamese, who were deprived of critically important air power."

And, er, good old HHH, Himself, no?

[Grampa Dave]

Pinging the book by Ann and the revival of Tail Gunner Joe as a man to be feared by communists then and now!

[Consort]

Why would Horowitz want "good" Democrats included in a book about treason?

[EdReform]

BTTT for later

[hosepipe]

Another good thread DPB... thanks..
Is Horowitz passing dis-information about Ann?..
Sure looks like it to me... Because, as the demo party slowly totally became Socialist controlled as it is now... They, the entire party is a 5th column as far as I can tell... Anns book is a shot across the bow of the demo party .. Because unless stopped and searched they have been and will deliver a load of industrial stength Socialism to a people slowly being indoctrinated by a media cartel to be a helpless drugged market..

[Naspino]

I am guessing that Horowitz did what most liberals did -- write a hit piece without ever picking up the book. Pure laziness.

[Noumenon]

You have conspired against our royal person,
Join'd with an enemy proclaim'd and from his coffers
Received the golden earnest of our death;
Wherein you would have sold your king to slaughter,
His princes and his peers to servitude,
His subjects to oppression and contempt
And his whole kingdom into desolation.
Touching our person seek we no revenge;
But we our kingdom's safety must so tender,
Whose ruin you have sought, that to her laws
We deliver you. Get you therefore hence,
Poor miserable wretches, to your death:
The taste whereof, God of his mercy give
You patience to endure, and true repentance
Of all your offences! Bring them hence.

--Wm. Shakespeare - King Henry V, Act II Scene III

[Paul Ross]

I particularly like your point and that cited which was made by Ann:

Ann Coulter didn't "concede" he injured the anti-Communist cause because she doesn't believe he did. Treason Page 70

"The rote smirking at McCarthy by conservatives is linked to their own psychological compulsion to snobbery. McCarthy was a popularizer, a brawler. Republican elitists abhor demagogic appeals to working-class Democrats. Fighting like a Democrat is a breech of etiquette worse than using the wrong fork. McCarthy is sniffed at for not playing by Marquis of Queensberry Rules--rules of engagement demanded only of Republicans. Well, without McCarthy, Republicans might be congratulating themselves on their excellent behavior from the gulag right now. He may have been tut-tutted on the golf course, but McCarthy made the American workers' blood boil.