Text of Justice Scalia's Dissenting Opinion [to paraphrase, "epitaph for Christian civilization"]

SCOTUS ^ | Justice Scalia

[spunkets]

" The Founders knew that freedom could not exist in a decadent society. They were as concerned about an internal moral collapse as they were about a foreign invader."

That's true. That's why the rats gained and were able to run things since FDR. Elections have been a places to get "your needs" satisfied for some time now. De Toqueville fingered that as the turning point.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Not as much as the law did.

[spunkets]

" Really? And where did the Almighty express this opinion? "

God was made in His image and likeness. He was given a free will. He gave His 2 commandments that summarized the 10.
Thou shalt not steal
thou shalt not covet what is thy neighbors
These are contained in, "love your neighbor as yourself". Your will belongs to you. Most folks desire and choose to make their own choices. It is forbidden to take what is not yours. If they don't listen God said, then shake the dust off your feet and move on.

"Paradise Lost?"

No.

[Roscoe]

Not as much as the law did.

Then by your reasoning, the courts should have been free to sacrifice Elian to Castro since Reno found the child's due process rights offensive to her agenda. Ironic that you've now embraced the "law be damned" attitude when it suits your purposes.

[spunkets]

Sorry that a little more than spelling.

It should have read => Man was made in His image and likeness.

[Luis Gonzalez]

LOL!!!

Nice try, but no cigar.

By your reasoning, a person can't have one thought independent of another.

Actually, you are wrong, but thanks for thinking of Elian anyway.

By my reasoning, the Court would have overturned an unjust action by the government, and allowed Elian to remain free.

I have a problem with government which seeks to oppress people, which is what this law in Texas represented.

Does that mean that I am "pro-gay"?

No, it means that I am against stupid laws, and even the dissenting Judges acknowledged that the Texas law was a stupid law.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Then by your reasoning, the courts should have been free to sacrifice Elian to Castro since Reno found the child's due process rights offensive to her agenda."

BTW, take a course in Civics, figure out the difference between the Executive Branch, and the Judicial Branch of the government.

[Roscoe]

Executive Branch, and the Judicial Branch

Reno found the law offensive, the Circuit court tossed it out at her request. Now you're arguing that the Court should overturn laws you don't like.

The hypocrisy is monumental.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Reno found the law offensive, the Circuit court tossed it out at her request."

Which law did the Court throw out at Reno's request?

Were exactly do I argue that the Court should overturn laws that I don't like?

Your lies are growing shrill.

[Roscoe]

Uh huh. According to the leftists, granting Elian and his guardians the hearing they were guaranteed by law would be oppressive to his poor father. You screamed for months.

Now the leftists contend that permitting states to enforce their laws on sodomy oppresses the poor sodomites. You cheer.

Amazing.

[mfreddy]

Looks like it didn't take long for the changes to start. It may not be pedophilia, the age difference may not be great enough but here is a homosexual statutory rape that will be set aside due to this decision. This verdict will have far reaching effects on our society.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/936870/posts

[Roscoe]

Which law did the Court throw out at Reno's request?

Are you now contending that Elian was NOT entitled to a hearing? Fascinating.

[Luis Gonzalez]

You want monumental hypocrisy?

We have over a 50% divorce rate in this country, unmarried teenage girls are giving birth to fatherless babies at a rate that has forced some schools to offer day care services in order to keep them in school. We cohabitate like there's no tomorrow, fornicate to the point where virgins are considered to be an oddity.

But we are all in here worrying about the demage to "our family values" a small, single-digit percentage of the population will bring is they are allowed to sleep with one another.

Grow up, and go fix the real problems we face.

[Roscoe]

Pedophiles rejoice.

[Roscoe]

But we are all in here worrying about the demage to "our family values"

That's your rationalization for trashing the Constitution through judicial legislation? Pathetic.

[Thorondir]

Does my consistently taking a pro gay stance mean I am pro gay? Why of course not, you big sweaty beast, you!

One has to laugh.

[Technogeeb]

There were no laws exclusively banning same-sex sodomy in America until the 1970's

You're either a liar or you just aren't capable of writing a coherent english sentence without being deceptive. The fact remains that same-sex sodomy has, until the decision of this court, been illegal in Texas. Just because other deviant acts (heterosexual sodomy, beastiality, etc) were also illegal has no bearing on that fact.

Now, having said all that, and wasted all this valuable time, I'll stand by my original statemt that there were no laws banning same-sex sodomy until the 1970's, sodomy laws before that pertained to all people.

That statement is self-contradicting; a sodomy law that "pertained to all people" also would result in "banning same-sex sodomy."

Now, prove me wrong and find one single same-sex sodomy law before 1970...don't come back with your word game now, just find one sodomy law, prior ro 1970, against same-sex sodomy, not just against sodomy in general

Prior to 1960, every state had a law against same-sex sodomy. Just because most (not all, the courts in some states had ruled that "sodomy" was inherently a homosexual act and did not apply to heterosexual conduct) applied to heterosexual sodomy as well does not negate that fact.

[OPS4]

Texas is now the state of Queers and Steers, and the judge
is now showing his preference.

OPs4 God Bless America!

[ninenot]

Not to mention the "right to privacy" which has facilitated all of the above...

[Luis Gonzalez]

When the law stopped pertaining to all people, it became a same-sex sodomy law.

Now, you keep calling me a liar, and I have been patient, as I usually am with children, but you are trying my patience.

Either put up a law banning same-sex sodomy prior to the 1970's, or I'll come by and wash your mouth out with soap.

I don't want a law that banned all sodomy, I want you to post a law banning same-sex sodomy that was in the books anywhere in the US prior to the 1970's.

We'll see just who the liar is here.