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Wolfowitz says Saudi troop withdrawal was 'huge' reason for war with Iraq
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Posted on 05/30/2003 1:11:24 PM PDT by fritter

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To: billbears
Click this link to read the truth for yourself. It is the Washington Post that says that Vanity Fair "interpreted" what Wolfowitz said. Vanity Fair also rephrased a direct quote from Wolfowitz to subtly and slyly put an unintended meaning on his statement.
101 posted on 05/30/2003 3:33:33 PM PDT by Wolfstar (If we don't re-elect GWB, who is a truly great President, we're NUTS!)
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To: dark_lord
Hey, I said this months ago. It wasn't about WMD it was about us needing a base in the Middle East to base our troops outside of Saudi Arabia. Now we have one

In that regard, it's also worth noting we've removed the one of the two viable threats to the monarchy, the other being their wahabbis. The Saudi's don't need our troops anymore.

102 posted on 05/30/2003 3:35:45 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: Miss Marple
I was listening to the Chris Core show on the way home from work and he read the transcript. The fact is Vanity Fair flat out mis-represented and twisted Paul Wolfowitz's words. Look for a major retraction from Vanity Fair, but the damage is already done. Stories are racing around the globe that this administration lied to the world
103 posted on 05/30/2003 3:35:50 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("4" more in "04")
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To: MJY1288
Vanity Fair won't get another interview with anyone in this administration.

The Blair virus infects more than the New York Times.

And isn't it interesting that some freepers will believe the magazine rather than the Department of Defense transcript?

104 posted on 05/30/2003 3:38:21 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Apparently you are unaware that the DoD TAPES every interview and provides a complete transcript

Like that's ever stopped a politician in that city from having something twisted. And as I said perhaps I could have been mistaken on his exact comments. However even in the DOD report, Wolfowitz still states it was a settle on one issue, not the issue. If it was the issue and WMDs are not found, then is the war on Iraq a success?

105 posted on 05/30/2003 3:39:01 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: Miss Marple
I think the reporter for Vanity Fair should be fired. This kind of mis-representation is close to criminal IMHO
106 posted on 05/30/2003 3:42:06 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("4" more in "04")
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To: Wolfstar
Excellent read.

"I'm not blind to the uncertainties of this situation, but they just seem to be blind to the instability that that son of a bitch was causing. "

Well, when he put's it that way......
107 posted on 05/30/2003 3:42:20 PM PDT by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: MJY1288
The editor of Vanity Fair can be reached at vfmail@vf.com
108 posted on 05/30/2003 3:43:43 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: billbears
1. It wasn't THE issue. Go back and read the President's speeches, including the one at the UN last September. The WMD issue was the one most endangering the US, followed closely by harboring terrorists.

2. The Washington Post has covered this story and has indicated that Vanity Fair twisted Wolfowitz's words and added their own interpretation.

3. I realize that those who are looking for anything to bash Bush are desperate, but in this case, since there is solid evidence of Wolfowitz being misquoted, you are just going to have to admit you were wrong.

109 posted on 05/30/2003 3:43:51 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Captain Kirk
now that it has been proven to be a chimera they rationalize

Kinda jumpin the gun aincha?
110 posted on 05/30/2003 3:44:03 PM PDT by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: jimbo123
Thank You
111 posted on 05/30/2003 3:45:19 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("4" more in "04")
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To: Miss Marple
Stories like this always gets the desperation to bubble to the surface dont they?
112 posted on 05/30/2003 3:51:51 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("4" more in "04")
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To: MJY1288
Yep. They are so eager ti finally have a scandal, they don't bother to check their facts.

Personally, I think reb9 is correct, and we will produce everything at one time, wrapped up in a nice, neat package for all the leftists.

113 posted on 05/30/2003 3:55:15 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
1. It wasn't THE issue. Go back and read the President's speeches, including the one at the UN last September. The WMD issue was the one most endangering the US, followed closely by harboring terrorists.

Really? I suggest you read the SOTU from this year. He makes it quite clear it is the issue. He doesn't say a coalition will attack Iraq unless they turn to a democracy, he doesn't say the coalition will attack Iraq over human rights violations, however he does say unless Iraq disarms the coalition would attack Iraq.

2. The Washington Post has covered this story and has indicated that Vanity Fair twisted Wolfowitz's words and added their own interpretation.

Like the boys over at New American Century (of which our current foreign policy is based considering half the administration was part of it back in the 90s) have never done any twisting of words. Remember, they're politicians, just like the Democrats.

3. I realize that those who are looking for anything to bash Bush are desperate, but in this case, since there is solid evidence of Wolfowitz being misquoted, you are just going to have to admit you were wrong.

No what I see is someone who is trying to change their story because the main line that has been yelled from the top of every mountain for the last 8 months is turning out to be no more than wishful thinking

114 posted on 05/30/2003 3:55:33 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: GW469
Having read the thread the 1st thing I would do is ask the Admin to terminate my account & select a new screenname . The name alone speaks volumes but do as you please .

Next I'd lurk around and learn from other people . Get a feel for personnalities , go look at what these folks do in society & know that it will be something new for you ; so give yourself plenty of time .

Having said that .. When you show up here again with that attitude & that juvenile silliness you damn sure know folks are going to rip you a new ass .

As it should be . So butch up and get an education . Perhaps someday you will be in an earned position to teach others . This site will change you're entire outlook and most importantly you will be armed with knowledge & facts if you allow it to happen for you .

115 posted on 05/30/2003 3:55:49 PM PDT by Ben Bolt
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To: Captain Kirk
The graves didn't prove anyone wrong. Nobody (not even the craziest liberal) claimed that Saddam was anything other than a brutal dicator. There are plenty of such graves in the world (in Zimbabee, etc) but that doesn't mean that we should go to war.

They stand as proof positive of Wolfowitz’s third criteria, second is support for terrorism, the third is the criminal treatment of the Iraqi people as well as the second, terrorism, for which there is ample additional evicence. I was addressing the other poster as well, who seemed to imply the sole reason for the war was WMDs, which was false.

Personally, I have little doubt he had WMDs, and that we’ll find evidence of their disposal and transfer. In fact you’ll find reports of transfer to Syria, under control of uncontrollable rogue elements according to the Syrian government, posted on FR last fall.

As to whether atrocities on their own are cause for intervention, IMO in most cases no. I wasn’t supportive of Kosovo (or Bosnia), though I think it would have been proper for the EU, it’s their backyard. If it was a matter of a 5,000 troop deployment, I probably would have supported a deployment in Rwanda. In the case of Iraq, I think Sadaam’s atrocities, coupled with his support for terror and the threat he posed to middle eastern oil fields (those troops weren’t in Saudi Arabia to enjoy the scenery) might have been enough even without the WMDs, which I’ve no doubt existed.

I view the intelligence issue separately, and think a thorough review is called for. The smoking guns weren’t there, there may be reasons, possibly destruction, possibly lousy intelligence, which should be addressed.

116 posted on 05/30/2003 3:57:42 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: tet68
The rationalizers are "jumping the gun" by their current revisionist claims that WMD wasn't even a reason, or was just one of several reasons. They obviously see a reason to jump the gun and rewrite history.
117 posted on 05/30/2003 3:58:39 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: w1andsodidwe
So if we give Democrats a little bit of what they want, they will quit attacking us? Hey, that worked so good, lets give Bin Laden a little bit of what he wants, and he will leave us alone too.
118 posted on 05/30/2003 4:00:53 PM PDT by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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To: billbears
atta boy!
119 posted on 05/30/2003 4:02:08 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Miss Marple
The Blair virus infects more than the New York Times.

Is the Blair virus a WMD?

We found em!

120 posted on 05/30/2003 4:02:30 PM PDT by SJackson
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