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Jewish lawmakers threaten walk-out over reference to Jesus
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 3, 2003 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 04/03/2003 6:25:58 PM PST by honway

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To: DoughtyOne; Beacon Falls
Let them walk. I have a hunch they'll back. This is a Christian nation, but I do not think they should be forced to listen. They can leave during the prayer.

Agreed from here. When I'm in the midst of people who are INTOLERANT, I leave...(see, even I can be intolerant of intolerance)...I don't spend a lot of time on people who are so blind they cannot see, and so deaf they cannot hear.

This whole post cracks me up...If this is all these pissants have to do, get them out of the "kitchen"!

FMCDH

61 posted on 04/03/2003 6:49:22 PM PST by nothingnew
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To: honway
"Miller appealed to lawmakers for tolerance and urged they stick to guidelines that call for invocations to be of an ecumenical nature and respectful of all faiths."

So, they are demanding that Christians not pray. Without Christ, the prayer goes nowhere. Now, you can yell at me, but that is my belief. Perhaps the invocations should be dropped entirely.
62 posted on 04/03/2003 6:49:24 PM PST by stayathomemom
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To: Illbay; DittoJed2; Thinkin' Gal; Bobby777
This was a Christian nation.

Pharasaical readings of the Constitution stripped it of this particular characteristic.

63 posted on 04/03/2003 6:50:11 PM PST by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy...)
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To: Illbay; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
The US is a clearly Christian country, including the Christian principles of tolerance and respect. The entire sociopolitical matrix that created and has nurtured us over the last 2+ centuries is Christian in nature. Our legal structure and our culture are intrinsically Christian.
64 posted on 04/03/2003 6:50:11 PM PST by narses (Christe Eleison)
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To: StockAyatollah
Leftist jews like this are the root cause of most anti-semitism in this country.

Maybe not most, but you have the right idea. Example: Alan Dershowitz has been behaving recently but loud & lefty Jews like him are very bad PR for the Jewish people. His OJ antics hurt Jews of America.

65 posted on 04/03/2003 6:50:21 PM PST by dennisw
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To: stayathomemom
Without Christ, the prayer goes nowhere. Now, you can yell at me, but that is my belief. Perhaps the invocations should be dropped entirely.

Maybe they should be, and your post is good evidence why.

66 posted on 04/03/2003 6:51:19 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Bella_Bru
Yes...tho I don't know about honway.

FMCDH

67 posted on 04/03/2003 6:51:27 PM PST by nothingnew
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To: Yehuda; SJackson
Ping. Jewish faith debate here.
68 posted on 04/03/2003 6:51:31 PM PST by yonif
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To: Bella_Bru
"Christians both worship the G-d of Abraham, why wasn't that enough? "

Because that is not what he wanted to say. Maybe he didn't like the words used by the rabbi's, should they change the way they pray just because someone doesn't like one of the words?

Tolerence works both ways, if you are going to shove it down someone throat, expect to eat your own share.

And the word if GOD, not g-d, GOD, if you are going to reference the Christian deity, please use His name.
69 posted on 04/03/2003 6:51:33 PM PST by Rasputin_TheMadMonk (Yes I am a bastard, but I'm a free, white, gun owning bastard. Just ask my exwife.)
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To: Illbay
he was asked to open with prayer, he did, do you think he was honestly attacking the 2 Jewish lawmakers? If you don't agree with what the clergy/iman/rabbi/whatever saying than simply pray your own prayer or have a moment of silence, you make it sound like he was holding forced conversions.
70 posted on 04/03/2003 6:51:37 PM PST by Blue Scourge (If a man hasn't found something he is willing to die for, he is not fit to live. - MLKjr.)
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To: sinkspur
Yes He certainly did. See Matt 7:7
71 posted on 04/03/2003 6:51:52 PM PST by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy...)
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To: Rasputin_TheMadMonk
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73 posted on 04/03/2003 6:52:02 PM PST by Rasputin_TheMadMonk (Yes I am a bastard, but I'm a free, white, gun owning bastard. Just ask my exwife.)
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To: honway
He didn't simply "mention the name of Jesus." I have often had discussions with Jewish friends where I have "mentioned the name of Jesus," as in "Jesus taught that we should love one another."

This man prayed IN THE NAME OF JESUS. This is appropriate when he is standing in the pulpit of his church. It is appropriate when he is at home with his family. It is appropriate when he is invited to pray with a family to whom he ministers.

It is NOT appropriate when giving an ecumenical prayer to open a legislative session. Instead of selfishly thinking about himself and the "point" he wanted to make, he should have deferred to his audience.
74 posted on 04/03/2003 6:52:15 PM PST by Illbay (Don't believe every tagline you read - including this one)
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To: sauropod; Jeremiah Jr; dennisw
Isaiah 11:13 The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim.
75 posted on 04/03/2003 6:52:28 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: narses
Askel5's been banned.
76 posted on 04/03/2003 6:52:33 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: stayathomemom
So, they are demanding that Christians not pray

It all boils down to that.

77 posted on 04/03/2003 6:52:34 PM PST by honway
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To: honway
this nation, of course, was founded on Christianity. This is a terrible, terrible shame!
78 posted on 04/03/2003 6:53:05 PM PST by mc10
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To: 1 spark
The very same 3% that rejected and continue to reject Jesus as the Messiah.
79 posted on 04/03/2003 6:53:12 PM PST by sauropod (If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy...)
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To: 1 spark
That 3% also has faith in God...the very same God to whom Jesus prayed.

Theological hair-splitting aside, keep in mind that not all of the 3% in question has any faith in God--many are liberal secularists whose true house of worship is the ACLU. They're the professionals at making these kinds of divisive political statements. It raises the money and garners the votes, you know.

80 posted on 04/03/2003 6:53:22 PM PST by Hoppean
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