Jewish lawmakers threaten walk-out over reference to Jesus

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 3, 2003 | Diana Lynne

[Dianna]

The article wasn't entirely clear about whether or not these prayers are rotated among differing religions. I have assumed that prayers of this sort are rotated, but the article mentions a "string of Baptist prayers". So perhaps they are not. I think they absolutely should be.

I don't think anyone ought to feel obligated to water down their prayer. In the presence of Jewish prayer, I would assume that the rabbi, being a good hearted religious person, is including me in his goodwill. I don't see it as he demanding that I DO anything in particular.

Of course, if I were LOOKING for something to be offended over...

[TopQuark]

Possible. But wHy they did not object to other prayers?

The answer will show that your explanation is incorrect: a nonbeliever would object to all prayers; if they are merely leftist, they would object to all prayers.

They did not.

[mosby]

Maybe you could simply not say "Amen"? What part of the word "Amen" do you not understand?

[TopQuark]

they were likely liberal suckups to the ACLU. That well may be true. But observe that they did not walk out from other prayers.

Thanks for your post and kind words.

[TopQuark]

One last try, MOsby. Suppose I lead you in prayer and say, "And now in the name of Mohammed, let us..." ---- say or otherwise do something.

As a Christian are you allowed to do follow? Would you follow?

[Dianna]

"And now, in the name of Jesus, let us say Amen."

Ok, in that instance since YOU are NOT praying in Jesus' name, I would expect that you would not say "Amen".

You really think this sentence DEMANDS something of you?

[mosby]

No I would not follow. Neither would I walk out. I believe someone called it tact.

[Delphinium]

You might be right, but I see them as just causing trouble. I think the same way about the leftist churches who call themselves Christian.

[Dianna]

As a Christian are you allowed to do follow? Would you follow?

I do absolutely nothing in Mohammed's name. I would not respond. Neither would I demand that HE change the way he prays. I would probably say my own prayer silently to myself.

[Bella_Bru]

Answer: there are 2 and only 2 master spirits in this world - Christ's and the anti-Christ's. That's why 'the road is narrow'.

You aren't saying that Jews are the anti-Christ, are you? But, if you are, I'll enjoy watching you get nuked from FR.

[ET(end tyranny)]

If remember right, it seems that not too long ago, there was a muslim cleric that offered the prayer and a couple of the representatives got up and left. One even said something like they were not going to listen to a muslim prayer. It was a female rep that said that if I recall correctly.

That's why I think prayers should be offered in God's name. It leaves less room for bickering. The more bickering, the more likely the chance that the atheists will try to remove prayer all together and I think that would be a bad thing and just the start of removing God from everything including our currency. jmo

[FrdmLvr]

Imagine that. A reverend evoking the name of Jesus.

[Rasputin_TheMadMonk]

Oh, well excuse my ignorance and, no offence to you, my indifference.

I'm not a Jew. God is the way I write it, and GOD is the way I say His name. If it offends, unfortunate, but that's one of the wonders of living in The Republic.

Besides, I did say 'Christian deity' didn't I?

[Delphinium]

WHen you say "sharing," I imagine us sitting together and conversing, wherein you tell me about New Testament, etc.

That works better then telling people they are going to burn in hell. All that does is offend those that Jesus loves.

[TopQuark]

I'll let you worry about the subtlties and synonims here, but I am certainly compelled to do something I am proscribed to do.

YOu are correctly suggesting whay my reaction to it should or could be. I agree with you.

There remains a question, why should I be compelled in the first place. Why is it is possible for thousands of chaplains, ministers and priests to find prayers that are Christian and yet to do alienate other denomination of Cristianity, Jews, Muslims, or Hindu? As I said on this thread before, I myself participated in many inter-religiosu services, and has never had any problems. Were the priests adn ministers officiating there selling out Christianity? Nonsense.

All this is much simpler than most make it: we all know that we have to speak the truth, but it does not mean that we have to speak all of the truth and all the time (sometimes we can be silent). Same here: there are many components to your faith and, if you do not brign them all at once, you are not betraying your faith. That's all.

Now, if you choose to read in this that someone is making you a non-Christian, then you are correct in taking offesne. BUt that assumption is simply wrong.

[Delphinium]

Imagine that. A reverend evoking the name of Jesus.

He might be arrested in the near future for doing that.

[LaineyDee]

The pastor was well within his right to refuse to compromise on the prayer. They invited him (AND his belief system) to pray, knowing who he prays TO. It is ridiculous for these people to condone prayers to "Allah", "Baboo" or any other god in their chambers.....but not Jesus Christ.

I see alot of flaming on this pastor here.....but I gotta say that our nation is in the trouble it is because of compromised values and integrity. Enough of the PC junk! I wouldn't pray either if I couldn't ask the prayer in my Lord's name.....because it would be of no effect..... nothing but empty words and a waste of my time and energy.

John 16

23In that day you will no longer ask me anything. I tell you the truth, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name.

[Bella_Bru]

It did not offend me, because I figured that you probably were not Jewish. And, Jews and Christians both pray to the G-d of Abraham.

[FrdmLvr]

You're right. But don't worry. I read the last chapter of that Book, and we win.

[TopQuark]

Bella, Rasputin reminds me of this Texan school principal that, upon hearing a student conversing with another in Spanish, told him: "Speak English! If English was good enough for our Lord Jesus Christ, it should be good enough for you!"

Forgive Rasputin: he does not know that Endlish and Russian were formed long, long after the name of "Christian deity" was written.

Rasputin: I am sure Bella could explain to you the errors of your ways, but I am sure that your comprehension in Arameic --- the language with your deity spoke --- is even worse than in English.