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Are there countermeasures for VX on bridges? Can it be neutralized or do you just have to bypass it....

1 posted on 03/18/2003 5:43:18 PM PST by estjohn
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To: estjohn
Oops, screwed up the title, perhaps an admin can remove "For".
2 posted on 03/18/2003 5:45:02 PM PST by estjohn
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To: estjohn
We're bringing our own bridges
3 posted on 03/18/2003 5:45:41 PM PST by Tree of Liberty
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To: estjohn
Are there countermeasures for VX on bridges?

MOAB


4 posted on 03/18/2003 5:45:42 PM PST by Publius Maximus
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To: estjohn
I'd think that a wee splash of napalm would do the trick. Flame it off and keep going. The same would work for biological agents.
5 posted on 03/18/2003 5:45:51 PM PST by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: estjohn
Sadam is doing exactly what he's wanted to do all along: use WMD against Americans.

The Dim-Wit-Crats are doing exactly what they wanted to do all along: side with the enemy.

Bush is doing exactly what he said he would do all along: lead our nation in self-defence.
6 posted on 03/18/2003 5:45:58 PM PST by samtheman
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The tip of the spear:
U.S. Marine Cpl. Brian Shumylo of Dyer, Ind., shields his face from blowing sand around the landing pad at an air base in Kuwait after arriving by helicopter from a ship Tuesday, March, 18, 2003. Shumylo is in a unit that helps load heavy-lifting helicopters. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)
Tue Mar 18, 3:03 PM ET

U.S. Marine Cpl. Brian Shumylo of Dyer, Ind., shields his face from blowing sand around the landing pad at an air base in Kuwait after arriving by helicopter from a ship Tuesday, March, 18, 2003. Shumylo is in a unit that helps load heavy-lifting helicopters. (AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)
A British soldier from the Dragoon Guards 3 Commando carries out training exercises in northern Kuwait, March 18, 2003. Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair, poised to take Britain to war, suffered two more ministerial resignations over Iraq on Tuesday ahead of what is expected to be a huge parliamentary rebellion over his hawkish policy.  REUTERS/POOL/Paul Grover
Tue Mar 18, 7:47 AM ET

A British soldier from the Dragoon Guards 3 Commando carries out training exercises in northern Kuwait, March 18, 2003. Britain's Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites), poised to take Britain to war, suffered two more ministerial resignations over Iraq (news - web sites) on Tuesday ahead of what is expected to be a huge parliamentary rebellion over his hawkish policy. REUTERS/POOL/Paul Grover

7 posted on 03/18/2003 5:47:47 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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but...but...he doesn't HAVE any weapons of mass destruction, right???????
9 posted on 03/18/2003 5:48:50 PM PST by CarmelValleyite
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To: estjohn
I was hoping the operation would be named "Frogger".
10 posted on 03/18/2003 5:49:20 PM PST by js1138
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maybe I am missing something, but the units holding these VX weapons are going to be bombed, right? now when the bombs are dropped on these stockpiles, won't the nerve gas be released onto the Iraqi units holding them? I would also like to know why, if we somehow can know that this material is being deployed, why not hit the VX depot with a predator and release the material amongst the Iraqi troops in advance of our advance? who would even know it was us, the story could be that they exploded because of mishandling.
11 posted on 03/18/2003 5:50:52 PM PST by oceanview
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To: estjohn
Napalm will destroy any biological or chemical agent. We should clean it up and drop in the UN and on Paris.
13 posted on 03/18/2003 5:53:44 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: estjohn
VX on bridges, this might help with the cleanup.



14 posted on 03/18/2003 5:55:40 PM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Victor Boc -> 5-8 weekdays on 860 AM - Open your mind)
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To: estjohn
The Whore$ of France and Germany are responsible if any WMD stuff is used by the Islamofacist thugs of Soddamned.

If one of our troops is harmed by a WMD, we should boycott both countries for a decade. Below is a list of French Companies and Products we should be boycotting.

$crew the Frogs with buycotts for the rest of this decade. Here is a simple list of products not to buy:

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Air France
Air Liquide
Airbus
Alcatel - Based in Paris France
Allegra (Allergy Medication) - Produced by Aventis Pharmaceuticals based in Strasbourg, France
Aqualung (Including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers, and SeaQuest)
AXA Advisors
*Bacou-Dalloz-Makes Industrial protective devices
Bank of the West - Owned by BNP Paribas
Beneteau (boats)
BF Goodrich - Owned by Michelin
BIC (Razors, Pens & Lighters) - Started in 1945 by Marcel Bich. Originally based just outside of Paris. Began trading on the Paris Stock Exchange in 1972. 40.5% Publicly traded. Bich family still owns 33.5%.
Biotherm (Cosmetics)
Black Bush
Bollinger (Champagne)
*Browning Firearms**
Car & Driver Magazine
Cartier
Chanel
Chivas Regal (Scotch)
Christian Dior
Club Med (Vacations) - Owned in part by Paris based CDC (Caisse des Dépôts
et Consignations)
Culligan (owned by Vivendi)
Dannon (Yogurt & Dairy Foods)
*Danone -Lea and Perrin, Evian and other food/water
*Decatholon Super Sport Stores or MVP Sport Stores*
* Dassault Systemes-(CATIA design software)*
DKNY - LVMH acquired 100% of Gabrielle Studio Inc., the privately owned licenser of Donna Karan trademarks back in 2001.
*DMC THREADS
Dom Perignon
Durand Crystal
Elle Magazine
*Emile Henry French Cookware
*Enertec makes high speed recorders used in Recon aircraft
Essilor Optical Products
Evian
Fina Oil - Billions invested in Iraqi Oil fields
First Hawaiian Bank
George Magazine
Givenchy
*Grey Goose Vodka
*GroupeSEB owns Krups, Moulinex, Roweta and Tefal Cookware
*Groupe Shneider, owner of Modicon and Square D
*Guerlain Fragrances
*Hachette Filipacchi owner publisher of many magazines sold in the USA. See the list below:***
Hennessy
Houghton Mifflin (books)
International Herald Tribune - 181 ave Charles-de-Gaulle - F-92521 Neuilly - FRSource:World Business Council for Sustainable Development '00 [Domain Registration], [Corporate Profile]
Jacobs Creek - Owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989
Jameson (wiskey)
Jerry Springer (talk show)
Krups
Lancome
*Lea & Perrins a product of Danon
Le Creuset (Cookware)
L'Oreal (Health & Beauty Products)
Louis Vuitton
Marie Claire
Martel Cognac
Maybelline
Méphisto (Footwear & Apparel)
Michelin (Tires & Auto Parts) - Their phone number is: (33) 1 45 66 15 53 in France
Mikasa Crystal and Glass (purchased by ARC int'l in 2001)
Moet (Champagne)
Motel 6 - 33, Avenue du Maine- 75755 Paris Cedex 15 France
Motown Records
MP3.com
Mumms (Champagne)
Nissan (Cars) - Majority owned by Renault
Nivea
Normany Butter
Parents Magazine
*Perrier
Peugeot (Automobiles) - Pronounced "Pooh Joe", must be French
Pierre Cardin
Playstation Magazine
ProScan - Owned by Thomson Electronics, France
Publicis Group (Including: Saatchi & Saatchi Advertising)
RCA (televisions & electronics) - Owned by Thomson Electronics, France
Red Magazine
Red Roof Inns - Owned by the Accor group based in France
Renault (Automobiles)
Road & Track Magazine
Roquefort Cheese - All Roquefort cheese is made in France
Rowenta (Toasters, Irons, Coffee makers, etc)
Royal Canadian
Salomon (Skis)
Seagram's Gin
Sierra Software and Computer Games
*Sodexho Alliance* French Food Caterer for the US Marines
Sofitel (Hotels) - Owned by the Accor group based in France
Sparkletts (Water) - Owned by Danone, based in France
Spencer Gifts
Sundance Channel
Taylor Made (Golf)
Technicolor
T-Fal (Kitchenware)
The Glenlivet (Scotch
*Top Tobacco - Dist. by Republic Tobacco L.P., Glenview IL, made in France
UbiSoft (Computer Games)
Uniroyal
Uniroyal Tires - Owned by Michelin
Universal Studios (Music, Movies & Theme Parks) - Universal Studios is owned by Vivendi-Universal, headquartered in Paris France
USFilter
Veritas Group
Veuve Clicquot Champagne
Vittel
Vivendi - Vivendi Headquarters, Paris France
Wild Turkey (bourbon)
*Winchester Firearms (US Repeating Arms)**
Woman's Day Magazine
Yoplait - France-based Sodiaal owns a 50% stake of Yoplait
Yves Saint Laurent
*Yves Rocher Cosmetics
*ZigZag (tobacco papers and roller products)*
Zodiac Inflatable Boats

*New additions to the list thanks to Freepers. If you have an addition, Freepmail me with the URL showing French ownership.
** Sad news but these two companies are owned by the Belgian Company Herstal, (French Light)
***List of 18 magazines sold in USA by Hachette Filipacchi with an estimated 50 million readers:
American Photo, Boating, Car Stereo Review's Mobile Entertainment, Cycle World, ELLE Decor, ELLEgirl, Flying, Home, Metropolitan Home, Popular Photography, Premiere, Sound & Vision, Travel Holiday, Woman's Day Woman's Day Special Interest Publications.



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15 posted on 03/18/2003 5:57:21 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Stamp out Freepathons! Stop being a Freep Loader! Become a monthly donor!)
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To: estjohn
Operation Iraqi Freedom

Like the name.

16 posted on 03/18/2003 5:58:55 PM PST by knak (kelly in alaska)
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no offense to saddam, who i am sure has spent a lot of time on this, but a fairly talented troop of boy scouts could get around his defenses. a big blu or two above artillery emplacements, and that particular profession will suddenly have as many openings as there were for web designers five years ago. as to vx on the bridges, our old friend mr. flamethrower will do a happydandy homer formby on those. i daresay the chief chem/bio problem we're likely to encounter will be the load in saddam's drawers when we find him. unless we're very quick on the trigger. hope somebody sneaks in a .45, because if there was ever anyone who deserved getting gutshot with hardball and given a painful hour or so to make peace with whatever he worships, it's him.

dep

p.s. -- too bad we don't have donohue on tonight, isn't it.

17 posted on 03/18/2003 5:59:18 PM PST by dep
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Coating a bridge with VX? Man, talk about your crappy details! "Private Abdul, come here. Take this swab. When the rest of us are at a safe distance, open this can and coat the bridge with the liquid inside as fast as you can. It'll be OK, trust me..."
18 posted on 03/18/2003 6:01:39 PM PST by Billthedrill
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U.S. special forces and CIA agents have already entered Iraq

They have been there for months/years!

19 posted on 03/18/2003 6:04:36 PM PST by MindBender26 (.....and for more news as it happens...stay tuned to your local FReeper station....)
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Are there countermeasures for VX on bridges? Can it be neutralized or do you just have to bypass it....

MOAB.

20 posted on 03/18/2003 6:06:18 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Let's Roll Already!)
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Key Developments Concerning Iraq

Tuesday March 18, 2003 9:30 PM


%dheadline(^Key developments concerning Iraq<<%) Key developments concerning the diplomatic and military efforts to disarm Iraq

By The Associated Press

Developments in the Iraq crisis:

- Saddam Hussein defied the U.S. ultimatum to leave Iraq with his sons by Wednesday night or face war. Saddam appeared on television in military uniform for the first time since the 1991 Gulf War, warning his commanders to prepare for battle. Iraq's al-Shabab television, owned by Saddam's eldest son, Odai, said the decision to defy the ultimatum was made in a leadership meeting chaired by the Iraqi leader. Mobilized by a televised appeal, thousands of demonstrators swept into the streets of Baghdad to show their support for Saddam.

- A day after delivering the ultimatum in a televised address to the nation, President Bush reached out to the leaders of Russia and China, two countries that resisted setting an ultimatum for using force against Saddam. But Vladimir Putin and Hu Jintao told Bush they still preferred a U.N.-brokered solution.

- French President Jacques Chirac, whose country led opposition to war within the U.N. Security Council, said the action Bush had chosen would undermine future efforts at peaceful disarmament.

- Secretary of State Colin Powell said that 30 nations declared varying levels of support for a war against Iraq as part of the administration's ``coalition of the willing,'' and 15 others gave their backing privately.

- Arab League Secretary-General Amr Moussa called off a possible last-minute peacemaking trip to Iraq, in what appeared to signal the end of Arab efforts to avert a war.

- Troops in the Kuwaiti desert loaded their ammunition and combat gear into fighting vehicles, ready to invade on short notice.

- Airlines around the world began canceling flights to the Middle East as fears of a war in Iraq kept passengers away in droves.

- U.N. weapons inspectors flew out of Iraq, the latest in a steady stream of foreigners to abandon Iraq in recent days. In Baghdad, residents stocked up on food, lined up for gas and taped their windows for fear of flying glass from U.S. bombs.

- Apparently jolted into action by Washington's ultimatum to Saddam, Iraqi Kurds left key cities for mountain villages seen as potential sanctuaries if Iraq retaliates against the Kurd's Western-protected enclave.

- Russian lawmakers postponed indefinitely a vote to ratify a U.S.-Russian nuclear arms treaty, as parliament speaker Gennady Seleznyov warned that a war against Iraq could endanger the pact. http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-2490190,00.html

21 posted on 03/18/2003 6:08:43 PM PST by TLBSHOW (The gift is to see the truth......)
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"Are there countermeasures for VX on bridges?"

A few B-52's with a load of iron bombs to remove all traces of the contaminated bridge and then go about building a new one.
27 posted on 03/18/2003 6:29:01 PM PST by kinghorse
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OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST
28 posted on 03/18/2003 6:35:24 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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