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New Age message for Christians
The UK Guardian ^ | Saturday March 15, 2003 | Alex Wright

Posted on 03/15/2003 7:02:09 PM PST by vannrox

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1 posted on 03/15/2003 7:02:09 PM PST by vannrox
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To: vannrox
So often the churches remain stuck fast to rigidities of principle
Yeah - there's that little thing about there being only one God (& we're not HIM) that we just can't get over! (LOL)
2 posted on 03/15/2003 7:08:25 PM PST by mollynme
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To: vannrox
My sister-in-law is big into New Age stuff. Very holistic and into Gaia and all that.

She discovered she had breast cancer and decided to treat it with tea bags. Whatever. It's too bad I can't take out a life insurance policy on her.

3 posted on 03/15/2003 7:08:42 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: vannrox
Why do Christians dismiss New Age practices and beliefs?Despite being a committed Catholic,...

If you even have to ask this question means you have not one clue about Jesus or your own religion.

4 posted on 03/15/2003 7:09:28 PM PST by sirchtruth
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To: vannrox
So often the churches remain stuck fast to rigidities of principle...

Yes, what I want is a church without principles! That's the ticket!

When the Burning Man - attended by a motley assortment of hippies, acidheads and eco-warriors - is set alight every Labour Day in the Nevada Black Rock desert, his destruction has obvious parallels to ideas of atonement theology, where sin is taken up and appropriated into God through Christ's self-sacrifice on behalf of humanity.

Well, the Black Mass also has elements of atonement theology, I suppose. Personally, I always thought Burning Man was extremely creepy, on the order of Sodom and Gomorrah.

5 posted on 03/15/2003 7:10:57 PM PST by Miss Marple
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The "New Age" covers quite an area. Most new-agers are unable to distinguish reality from fantasy.
6 posted on 03/15/2003 7:14:03 PM PST by dark_lord
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re: burning man. I agree. that group of weirdos creep me out
7 posted on 03/15/2003 7:14:24 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: vannrox
and holistic lifestyle choices ...

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In my entire life I have yet to find anything that applied the term holistic to itself that wasn't nuts.

8 posted on 03/15/2003 7:20:48 PM PST by RLK
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To: vannrox
Why do Christians dismiss New Age practices and beliefs?

Because "New Age" practices and beliefs are rooted in the occult and there is nothing new about them.

9 posted on 03/15/2003 7:22:53 PM PST by slimer
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To: mollynme
Amen to that! :)
10 posted on 03/15/2003 7:25:34 PM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: dark_lord
The basic difference between New Age and Christianity is very simple.

New Age = physical realm
Christianity = spiritual realm
11 posted on 03/15/2003 7:26:00 PM PST by CyberAnt ( -> -> -> Oswego!!)
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UUUUHHHHHH

EVEN IF AN ANGEL OF LIGHT COMES PREACHING ANY OTHER GOSPEL, CONSIDER HIM ACURSED.

I'll take Apostle Paul's exhortation any day over anything close to New Agey.

Of course, if some want to suck up to the antiChrist and facilitate his brief global rule to great pain and distress for all concerned, that may be their business as I can't per se stop them--except, maybe, through earnest prayer.

But in due course, God will deal with all the false -isms, including this one.

Pan-everything-ism is one more collection of gobbledygook designed to seduce the silly into satan's destructive service. Get close at your own risk.

You've been warned.
12 posted on 03/15/2003 7:28:35 PM PST by Quix (MARCH BIBLE CODES DIGEST LATEST RESEARCH COMPARES WAR AND PEACE VS BIBLE W SURPRISES 4 BOTH SIDES)
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"When the Burning Man ...is set alight... his destruction has obvious parallels to ideas of atonement theology, where sin is taken up and appropriated into God through Christ's self-sacrifice on behalf of humanity. Such an event may be as genuinely inspiring as any church service - and possess considerably greater connectedness to cultural mores and responsible social aspirations as well. "

This the crux of the problem. It doesn't matter whether a practice is inspiring. It doesn't matter how much good a false religion has in it.

What matters...The only thing that matters... is whether or not a religion is ordained by the Creator and reconciles the creation to the Creator.

A religion that produces super relaxed socially acceptable and responsible citizens that are distanced from their creator is vain, worthless, harmful, deadly on an eternal scale.

I'm reminded of the Jim Jones cult. If you watched the documentary, they preached love and acceptance like crazy. And they took people in warts and all. In a practical sense, they out-Christianed the Christians. And they grew. And then they all committed suicide because their foundation was not the Creator but a charismatic and deranged man. A man who spun a web that was 98% truth, had some excellent practices in it, but that 2% lie was a whopper.

I'm also reminded of Islam. Our public school taught my 6 year old daughter in kindergarden that in Islam people gave to the poor during Ramadan. Giving to the poor is a good practice, who can argue that. However, it doesn't redeem Islam, which teaches it's people to hate the Jews and Christians and not to be friends with them. Moreover, it rejects Jesus which comdemns Islam's followers to hell as they will stand before God and account for their works without the shield of forgiveness.

Some of the practices that New Age does such as relaxation techniques or self improvement or mere practices that the New Age movement has appropriated. Some of these practices are not bad and are in fact good. But other practices within the New Age movement such as Astrology, Spiritism, Witchcraft, etc are horrible terrible sins which the Creator has warned bear very serious consequences. So having some good practices does not redeem the New Age.

On the other hand, the New Age does not make a practice evil simply because they have chosen to incorporate it. Self-help movements were around long before the New Age movement. Similarly, the gays have appropriated the color purple. Does that make the color purple bad? No, The gays have no right to a color that God made, let them make their own color.

13 posted on 03/15/2003 7:32:31 PM PST by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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She discovered she had breast cancer and decided to treat it with tea bags.

Wow. That's really sad.
The only time I've seen a breast cancer patient turn down chemo was a pregnant women. She wouldn't abort. Told me she would die for her child and she did.
If she's not in heaven, I don't know who is.

14 posted on 03/15/2003 7:33:51 PM PST by lizma
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To: Quix; Ff--150; 4ConservativeJustices
So often the churches remain stuck fast to rigidities of principle

Imagine that. A church stuck to principle?!? We can't have that now. Everyone has to be one big happy family believing in some sort of deity that has no power, no condemnation for sin, and encourages us to do whatever makes us happy. Hey wait a minute!! That sounds a lot like....

Same ol', same ol'. Repackaged, reformed, and still trying to get Christians not to be so much of a stick in the mud. Thanks, but no thanks Mr. Wright. If you bothered to pick up a Bible (found in one of those churches that sticks to principles), you'd see even less than 100 years after Christ's first visit, the devil was trying to delude Christians with the same message. I'll stick to my ol' time country Southern Baptist church where God's message is taught

15 posted on 03/15/2003 7:34:48 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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AMEN!

16 posted on 03/15/2003 7:36:55 PM PST by Quix (MARCH BIBLE CODES DIGEST LATEST RESEARCH COMPARES WAR AND PEACE VS BIBLE W SURPRISES 4 BOTH SIDES)
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To: vannrox
To many, it doesn't actually matter what you believe in as long as you believe really, really, hard. Squinting your eyes and gritting your teeth is very helpful. Any parity between your faith and the workings of the world around you is entirely optional. In fact, the harder it is to reconcile what you believe in with current or past events the better. It merely shows that you are all the more devout; i.e. believing really hard.

I believe the Bible invites the reader to compare the truths held within to the events of their lives and human history. This is one of the greatest strengths of The Word in my humble opinion. As a result it would be very hard for new age mumbo-jumbo to compete with Judeo-Christian principles on their own turf.

That is, unless you simply forsake truth for all the emotional gratification promised by the earth/goddess/wikka/wookie/gaia followers. It is a hollow gratification but is delivered instantly.

17 posted on 03/15/2003 7:40:16 PM PST by avg_freeper
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To many, it doesn't actually matter what you believe in as long as you believe really, really, hard. Squinting your eyes and gritting your teeth is very helpful. Any parity between your faith and the workings of the world around you is entirely optional. In fact, the harder it is to reconcile what you believe in with current or past events the better. It merely shows that you are all the more devout...

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This comment should be enshrined on buildings throughout the country.

18 posted on 03/15/2003 7:42:43 PM PST by RLK
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To: Dog Gone
She discovered she had breast cancer and decided to treat it with tea bags

That's too bad. I tell you I've seen some pretty bad ones myself. We lived in Asheville NC (Dan Rather called it the new 'New Age Capitol of the World' back in 96 or so) and there were people that caught up on everything from crystals to tones to rubbing all sorts of strange things on oneself as some sort of cure. These 'doctors', especially the ones involved in tone therapy, would sell packages starting at $1000, that guaranteed curing just about anything. And they had a booming business as well. Southern Living magazine back in the mid 80s named it some sort of retreat and the place filled up with old folks from Florida (locals called 'em half-backs) looking for a place to retire. I guess these quacks just followed the money

19 posted on 03/15/2003 7:49:18 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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I attended burning man many years ago, I veiwed it as entertainment, like going on safari and seeing primitive tribes in their own enviroment...
Was a bit creepy, but I reassured my self by looking around at some of the participants and realized that these folks had the motor at max RPM, but the gearshift in NEUTRAL!!!
So I drank some really good homemade mead, listened to the drivel and took a LONG shower when I got back to civilization.
I put my faith in the Good Book, good steel and good ammo, not some mystic mumbo jumbo and idol worship.
20 posted on 03/15/2003 7:53:20 PM PST by cavtrooper21 ("..he's not heavy, sir. He's my brother...")
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