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I'D RATHER GO NAKED!
NewsWithViews.com ^ | March 13, 2003 | Mary Starrett

Posted on 03/13/2003 10:46:10 AM PST by fight_truth_decay

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Such scenarios could lead to protests over "spy clothes" on privacy grounds, said Wayne Madsen of the Electronic Privacy Information Center.

"There really needs to be legislation if companies are doing this," Madsen said. "They say it's for internal use. But what would prevent them from sharing it with third parties, with the government or criminal investigators?"

The ultra-short range of the RFID transmissions would make it difficult to scan the clothes without the wearer's knowledge, Karsten Ottenberg, senior vice president of Philips Semiconductors, based in Hamburg, Germany said.(Pulled from related articles above)

Pro-chip? Anti-Chip? Big Deal? No Big Deal?

1 posted on 03/13/2003 10:46:10 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
I'm making my tin-foil hat double thick. Then they'll NEVER track me.
2 posted on 03/13/2003 10:49:47 AM PST by johnb838 (ROLL not STROLL. Liberate Iraq. Bomb Saddam, Crap Chiraq)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The sky is falling the sky is falling.
3 posted on 03/13/2003 10:50:55 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (RW&B)
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To: fight_truth_decay
I'm sure I see the difference between this and a bar code? I'm also not real clear on what useful information might be gathered? Sounds to me like these designers are coming up with this as a way to foil counterfeiters.

I'm not taking a stand good or bad just yet. Need more info.
4 posted on 03/13/2003 10:54:26 AM PST by Ramius
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To: Ramius
err... I'm *not* sure I see... [sigh]
5 posted on 03/13/2003 10:54:56 AM PST by Ramius
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To: fight_truth_decay
Sometime in the near future:

"Uhm honey, I have to work late tonight"

Later, from the spouse...

"Hey, I've got your clothes showing in a static position on my RFID screen in some stranger's apartment, what gives?

6 posted on 03/13/2003 10:56:23 AM PST by TADSLOS (Sua Sponte)
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To: *tech_index; *Privacy_list
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list
7 posted on 03/13/2003 10:58:39 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The chips, which function as itty bitty radio transmitters will be inserted when the clothes are made and will remain intact throughout the life of the garment

For a transmitter, no matter the size, that's a hell of a battery!

8 posted on 03/13/2003 10:59:24 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: fight_truth_decay
Stores 512 bits of info? Hardly worth the effort.
9 posted on 03/13/2003 10:59:29 AM PST by berserker
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To: Flurry
I can only imagine the outcry if FR had been around back in the days that bar-codes started appearing on everything. Massive conspiracy, that, right along with the little code numbers on the backs of road signs to guide UN troops.
10 posted on 03/13/2003 11:01:24 AM PST by Ramius
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To: fight_truth_decay
Seems to be nothing more than a small EMP generator couldn't wipe out.
11 posted on 03/13/2003 11:02:52 AM PST by Johnny Gage (We will not tire, We will not falter, We will not fail. - President George W. Bush)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Just make sure you microwave all new purchases for 30 seconds on high.
12 posted on 03/13/2003 11:04:30 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear.)
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To: johnb838; fight_truth_decay

I'm SO protected.

13 posted on 03/13/2003 11:04:47 AM PST by martin_fierro (FRUCK FANCE!)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Uh.....right.

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

14 posted on 03/13/2003 11:05:37 AM PST by mhking (Fasten your seatbelts....We're goin' in!)
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To: berserker
512 bits is enough info to encode a unique number to identify you.
Worth alot of effort to those who want to know what you do so they can target marketing to you.
Or, alternatly, spy on you.
Literally.
15 posted on 03/13/2003 11:05:46 AM PST by Darksheare (Quickly flip the switch and watch the pretty colors, of the pyrotechnics of my heart exploding.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
network of millions of RFID receivers in airports, stores and even your home.

Ri-i-i-i-ight.
16 posted on 03/13/2003 11:06:20 AM PST by BJClinton (Praise God for Elizabeth's safe return.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
a group called C.A.S.P.I.A.N. (Consumers Against Privacy Invasion And Numbering)

Okay, where did the S in the acronym come from?
17 posted on 03/13/2003 11:07:31 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: grobdriver
I would doubt that there's any power to it at all. More likely just a little "reflector" that has a coded surface that bounces a certain signal back in a unique way, making it a number.

Sort of like the "electronic" key cards for office buildings. They are powered, they just bounce a signal back in a way that makes each card unique.
18 posted on 03/13/2003 11:08:30 AM PST by Ramius
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To: grobdriver
For a transmitter, no matter the size, that's a hell of a battery!

It uses microwave energy beamed down from orbital mind-control satellites contolled by the Illuminati.

Better replace the tin-foil hat with a Reynolds Wrap sombrero!!

19 posted on 03/13/2003 11:08:51 AM PST by Jonah Hex
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To: fight_truth_decay
This should shed more light on the matter:

http://www.aimglobal.org/technologies/rfid/what_is_rfid.htm

These are nothing new, and have been in use for ages in all kinds of products from cloths to PCs, they can't track you at home, if there is no reader in the home to read data off RFID tags and then submit that info to someone somewhere.

Furthermore the passive ones don't really transmit anything. the reader queries the tag and gets info from it, but on its own a tag can't send out anything.

Its just a more efficient way to track inventory in a store, seems more like someone wants to get some attention or points for a thesis :)
20 posted on 03/13/2003 11:09:30 AM PST by battousai
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