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The bubble of American supremacy [George Soros]
The Korea Herald ^
| 12 March 2003
| George Soros
Posted on 03/12/2003 4:12:41 PM PST by AndyJackson
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How can the open society survive unless those committed to its survival will preempt those miscreants who live in closed societies and are willing to resort to WMD for their ends?
To: AndyJackson
by lying and obfuscating. Note the premise begun in the article that denies public opinion here is FOR taking out Iraq ASAP with or without UN approval and a vast majority think the UN is handling things poorly to pathetically.
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posted on
03/12/2003 4:16:53 PM PST
by
Steven W.
To: Steven W.
Soros is considered by some to be a hero. He's Michael Milkin with less ethics but a better PR man.
Soros made his money manipulating markets and now he thinks he has the right to push his socialist agenda on the rest of the world. He hates America, hates the idea of competition because he made his fortune through inside deal-cutting, so he has no respect for free enterprise or this nation.
To: AndyJackson
"How can the open society survive unless those committed to its survival will preempt those miscreants who live in closed societies and are willing to resort to WMD for their ends?" It cannot. Soros is a wealthy statist fool. Better that there be "Pax Americana" than universal socialist (or Islamic) tyranny.
To: AndyJackson
It is not too late to prevent the boom-bust process from getting out of hand. The U.N. could accede to chief weapons inspector Hans Blix's request for several months to complete his inspections. America's military presence in the region could be reduced, but it could be beefed up again if Iraq balks. Invasion could take place at summer's end. This would be a victory for the U.N. and for the United States whose prodding made the Security Council act resolutely. That is what the French propose, but that is not what is going to happen. President Bush has practically declared war. So perhaps Soros would be willing to foot the bill to move 100,000 of the troops that are in the Gulf back to the states, then move them back to the Gulf in the fall, and also the bill for keeping the other 100,000 in the Gulf waiting.
Oh, and perhaps he will also be personally responsible for explaining to the families of our brave soldiers, why they have to be separated from their families for another six months so that the French and Germans can jerk-off in the UN.
The notion that our 'prodding' made progress possible is sophistry. No. 250,000 troops on Iraq's border made it possible.
Finally, the french have already betrayed us once. Their behavior now is directly contrary to their assurances to Bush when Resolution 1441 was passed. Why should we trust them to behave themselves in the Fall.
Soros is an idiot.
To: AndyJackson
If George Soros has taken a position you can be sure it is motivated solely by profit. He just told us where his money is.
So9
To: AndyJackson
Needs something .... hmmm ... let me see .... is it more salt? No. This needs a BARF ALERT!
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posted on
03/12/2003 4:24:18 PM PST
by
PackerBoy
To: Numbers Guy
Soros made his money manipulating markets He may have had some inside leads for some of his trades, but a lot of his money was made by betting against governments who tried to manipulate markets. It is just that despite his genius for making money, in other things he is no smarter than the next guy.
To: AndyJackson
This is reminiscent of George Orwell's Animal Farm: All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. To be sure, the Bush doctrine is not stated starkly; it is buried in Orwellian doublespeak.
So is the entire anti-war movement, Mr. Soros.
Rule#6: No animal shall kill any other animal.
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posted on
03/12/2003 4:28:26 PM PST
by
Hadean
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To: AndyJackson
The rest of the world is opposed to the war?? Not hardly...no Arab country has come out against the war; Arafat hasn't even come out against it; if there was a unanimous resolution at the UN, how can the "rest of the world" be against the war?...
Germany and France are to blame for the problems in the EU and NATO, not the USA....
Soros should be glad that Bush is the Pres and the USA is a superpower...
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posted on
03/12/2003 4:34:21 PM PST
by
Ecliptic
To: AndyJackson
'I have always harboured an exaggerated view of my self-importance. I fancied myself as some kind of god or an economic reformer like Keynes (child rapist and socialist gravedigger of the British Empire), or, even better, like Einstein.' -George Soros
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posted on
03/12/2003 4:38:22 PM PST
by
AdamSelene235
(Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear.)
To: AndyJackson
Actually I agree with a lot of what he says. There is no way that the United States can - over the long run - pay for all the commitments it is setting itself up for.<br.
That said, the die is already cast for Iraq this spring. Holding off until the fall or winter is not in the interest of the United States. The UN can go to h*** on that idea.
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posted on
03/12/2003 4:39:54 PM PST
by
glorgau
To: Ecliptic
I am very familiar with Soros' theories about boom-bust cycles and the role of self-fullfilling prophecies in this process, but there are a number of problems in this article. First is the presumption that we are seeking world supremacy. Second is that boom-bust cycles have anything much to do with it. Soros has succumbed to the liberal efete intellectual snob disease. Discard the common sense explanation and find a really obscure one that no one else quite understands. The common sense explanation is that SH is a thug and needs to go - quickly. Soros even sort of flirts with this. Third are all of the other facts he got wrong.
It is truly astonishing that a Hungarian would confuse France and Germany with Europe - but he does.
To: AndyJackson
"The Bush administration believes that international relations are relations of power; legality and legitimacy are mere decorations."
That description might apply more to the French, for whom the letter of Resolution 1441 means anything but what it says. Yet since we are on the subject of bubbles, Soros might well ask himself how the the bubble of unenforced declarations, flaunted sanctions and ignored resolutions might fare in a world full of needles.
Just now, the Serbian Prime Minister is lying in a coffin and the Balkans are trembling on the edge. What treaty will Soros despatch to pull things back from the brink? When Portugal opined that they backed the United States because they could expect no help, in a pinch, from France, they were not referring to either the financial bubble that Mr. Soros might provide, nor to the airy assistance that France or the UN customarily sends.
The bubble.
To: AndyJackson
The only true International Laws are the Laws of Physics.
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posted on
03/12/2003 4:43:05 PM PST
by
Dead Dog
To: AndyJackson
In the long run, an open society cannot survive unless the people who live in it believe in it.Uh, just what exactly does he mean by this pointless platitude? George Soros' entire essay is nothing but a thread of senseless, high sounding sentences strung together that supposedly make sense.
Just because one cannot see the bottom in a pool of water doesn't mean its deep, chances are it could be murky. Like this example of Soros murky reasoning.
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posted on
03/12/2003 4:48:34 PM PST
by
elbucko
(Blued Steel & Polished Walnut)
To: Dead Dog
The U.N. could accede to chief weapons inspector Hans Blix's request for several months to complete his inspections. America's military presence in the region could be reduced, but it could be beefed up again if Iraq balks. Invasion could take place at summer's end. One thing is for sure. George Soros knows nothing about military operations and logistics.
To: elbucko
In the long run, an open society cannot survive unless the people who live in it believe in it. - Uh, just what exactly does he mean by this pointless platitude? And if you do believe in it, what do you do about the people like SH or even the French, who don't believe in it?
To: AndyJackson
One thing is for sure. George Soros knows nothing about military operations and logistics.Exactly.
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posted on
03/12/2003 4:57:51 PM PST
by
elbucko
(Blued Steel & Polished Walnut)
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