Can a whore ever be respectable again?

[4CJ]

Can a whore ever be respectable again?

Of course she can. But her customers can't.

Lord I ask that You will protect our President, that You will give him strength, that You will heal our military fast and that You will do what ever You have to do to keep the enemies of the president and the US at arms length. That you will comfort the President, and those who are with him, that You Lord will guide others to pray for his safety and his health, his guidance and his reliance upon You. Amen.

Amen and Amen.

[FirstTomato]

I wager those individuals that showed you those sites would not have shown you sites of atrocities against the Protestant Serbs, because that would not have been in their best interest, nor in their political purview.

These groups had committed mutual atrocities against each other. The Protestant Serbs were singled out, and the crimes of others suppressed (that is not to say Milosevic did not commit his crimes, but that his crimes were trumped up, and that the crimes of others deliberately overlooked and "swept under the rug").

In other words, the fix was in against the Serbs from the very beginning.

[I got the rope]

December 1995, everyone signs Dayton accord and lives happily ever after. The End.

Wow...another Clinton Legacy. Rodney you can choose sides if you wish, but like everything else that Clinton told you...take it with a grain of salt.

I'm not going to deny that lives were lost...I will deny that there is proof that all of these people were muslims. More than likely they are Serb Christians. In any case, show me some data.

Croats sided with the Germans in WWII and have sided with the "religion of peace" who currently are enemies now.

Clinton started a war for poll results...he never gave a rat's ass about the Muslims, Croats, or Serbs. It's just easier to get the Liberals, Eurotrash, and American Media into a hedonist war frenzy when your bashing Christians. Have good day:)

[homeagain balkansvet]

You confuse the two wars, Bosnia and Kosovo.

The war in Bosnia was absolutely necessary to European security for three reasons:

1) We can't let a European nation (in this case Bosnian Serbs) commit genocide without response. The Srebrenica massacre was genocide. One doesn't allow a country so close to Germany to commit genocide and get away with it. That Would Be Bad.

2) The Serb plan was the creation of a Muslim "bantustan" of about 1/4 the present size of Bosnia. A state that had suffered ethnic cleansing, genocide, and total economic deprivation is a country absolutely ripe for takeover by Islamic fundamentalists. We can't have that, and we wouldn't have it, and we didn't.

3) Bosnia BECAME an American problem, willy nilly, when the Euroweenies, who had three years to act, didn't. Once again it became our business.

Finally, let me note this: we've had almost ten years to figure out the bad guys in this most recent war. Hint. It wasn't the Muslims, except for one or two exceptions. Second Hint. It wasn't the Croats, except for the attack on the Serb enclaves--which were put out of business and "ethnically cleansed" but without genocide, which made the operation barely tolerable to the international community.

No, the vast majority of massive war crimes in this most recent war was of the Serbs, by Serbs, for the Serbs. We've had the time to dig up the mass graves and match bullets and do the forensics. All BS aside, the Serbs started this war, they commited the vast majority of the war crimes. They were, in short, The Bad Guys, and got, actually, far a better deal than they deserved.

As for Kosovo, that case is murkier, but I still think we were right to intervene, although we deliberately provoked that operation to force Slobo out of office. That was justified; Slobo had to go. And the operation worked. Of course, we traded Slobo for having to babysit a poverty stricken hell-hole. Oh well. We'll figure out what to do about that eventually. Maybe. I hope.

[TontoKowalski]

I'm afraid you neglected to link the source for this article, and I'm unable to locate it. Can you provide source, please.

[homeagain balkansvet]

Google "International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia," and read the 187 page document convicting the Serb commander at Srebrenica, Radovan Krstic, V (Drina) Corps commander under Ratko Mladic, of the massacre at Kravica and elsewhere in the region on 11 - 15 July 1995. It happened. deal with it.

We have his voice on tape giving the order: "Kill them! Kill every one of them! Kill them all!" And for that crime he was convicted and sentenced to 47 years without possiblity of parole.

[Oberon]

As I told your compatriot. Bite me.

What'd I do? I don't mind jumping in with both feet, but when I do I prefer to know why. I hadn't actually taken a side in this thing.

And if you are, in fact, a returned veteran of our latest Balkan adventure, thanks. I really mean it; thank you.

Back when I was 18, I didn't trust the government to spend my life and my loyalty in a cause that was really worth it, and so I decided not to join a military that I otherwise respected and would have loved. I wasn't sure that I wanted to hand over my ethics to a command staff of career bureaucrats, or a C in C who might be motivated by political rather than ethical interests. Now that I'm about to turn 36, I look back on the Clinton years and thank God for the decision I made.

On the downside, I'd be two years from retirement now... and I made people like you go in my place. That isn't fair. Thank you.

If, on the other hand, you're not actually a returned Balkans vet, well... like you said...

[Oberon]

Now he's mad at you. What'd you do? I thought you were talking to me.

Oh, who knows. I hope I didn't step on any toes, but it looks like I may have done so anyhow. Which, honestly, won't keep me up nights with remorse.

[homeagain balkansvet]

I am sorry. I have undergone name calling every time I post on this subject, and I'm short tempered.

I am a former US soldier, stationed for a prolonged period in the US HQ in Tuzla, Bosnia. I have travelled extensively throughout northern Bosnia. I have stood before the Agricultural Warehouse. I have pictures of the place, which I took myself, which I could Email to you if you wish. (I can't post them; my HTML is not that advanced.) The murders there happened as described: approximately 1000 Bosnian males between the ages of 12 and 80 were crowded into the building, machine gunned at close range. The bullets in the bodies which were buried nearby matched the bullets found imbedded in the walls of the warehouse. Pocket litter -- IDs, money, military insignia--confirm all the dead were Bosniac; not a single one was Serb. All died on 13 July 2001. The incident is very well known and can be confirmed through a simple Google process.

I am not mistaken. This happened. I know this to be fact.

[homeagain balkansvet]

All died on 13 July 2001

CORRECTION

All died on 13 July 1995.

[FirstTomato]

Right. thanks for clarifying. I was working from memory and that is always dangerous! (at least at my age)

[2timothy3.16]

She's the junior senator from New York whether you like it or not. Just get over it and move on, OK?

What?????????????

You think the US miltary is a junior senator from NY???

[2timothy3.16]

Can a whore ever be respectable again?
Of course she can. But her customers can't.

You are right, and that is one more reason for us to get out of the UN and the UN out of the US! Not only are they irrelevant, they are also pimps, whoremasters and for the most part enemies.

[joan]

Here's an interesting report from 1997 on Bosnia by the United States Senate Republican Policy Committee: http://www.senate.gov/~rpc/releases/1997/iran.htm

As for "genocide" the percentage of Bosnian Muslims relative to Serbs and Croats in Bosnia is at least equal, if not greater, than what it was prewar. How is that "genocide"? Bosnia is something of a population swap - with the respective groups concentrating in certain sections of Bosnia. For example, Sarajevo once had 30% Serb population, but now has 7-8% or less. The Muslim population there went from something like 40%, to now 80%.

[VadeRetro]

A little humor there.

[4CJ]

Not only are they irrelevant, they are also pimps, whoremasters and for the most part enemies.

Bump. The UN is a socialist organization, and nowhere in our Constitution do we delegate our sovereignty to foreign bodies. We don't need or require the UN to approve of our actions. Get US out of the UN.

[AppyPappy]

I fail to see how we had a dog in that Balkan fight.

[homeagain balkansvet]

Very simple.

1. Bill Clinton Campaigning With Bosnian Civil War In Background On TV Bad (From His Point of View).

2. Bill Clinton Being Impeached Without Some International Distraction To Save His Butt Very Bad (From His Point of View).

3. Testosterone-free Europeans Incapable of Solving Aggressive Serbia Problem Themseves Very, Very Bad.

4. Huge Numbers of Refugees in Europe Very Very Very Bad.

5. Paranoid Communist Dictator in Serbia Undermining Neighbors Extremely Bad.

6. Serb Genocide Very, Very, Extremely Bad.


Those were the Six Dogs of the Balkan Wars, and they barked until we bit. Reasons 1 and 2 screwed the pooch though: however, based on my time over there, Reasons 3 through 6 were morally sufficient to mandate American intervention regardless of 1 and 2.

[homeagain balkansvet]

As for "genocide" the percentage of Bosnian Muslims relative to Serbs and Croats in Bosnia is at least equal, if not greater, than what it was prewar. How is that "genocide"?

Is that your complaint? That the charge doesn't apply because the Serb butchers were not efficient enough for your taste?

It's genocide because eight thousand Bosnian males were murdered because of the demographic group to which they were a member. It's also 'genocide' because a bunch of international treaties to which we are signatories SAY it is 'genocide.'

Of course, to Milosevici, that's not 'genocide,' that's a party on a Saturday night.