Payrolls Plunge 308,000 in February (Feb. unempl. %5.8)

Reuters ^ | 3-7-03

[Lazamataz]

Durable goods orders, the purchasing managers' index, and other durable goods manufacturing numbers are leading, and they have been positive.

Maybe, but no one is hiring. I can tell you this from experience.

No hiring, no jobs. No jobs, no spending.

[Thane_Banquo]

Well, durable goods orders are driven more by business spending than by consumer spending.

[waterstraat]

Of course construction is up. It's up because of immigration. You can't have a million new faces every year and not build a few houses. But we need more than construction jobs. We need manufacturing jobs. Here. Write your Congressman.

YOu are right, but you are a very small minority who wants immigration to be controlled. Most people want record immigration to continue, so if most people took your advice and wrote their congressmen, it would only serve to increase our record immigration even more. Ross Perot and Pat Buchannan were soundly defeated when they warned of closing american factories, loss of american jobs, and overpopulation, and most americans do not want a stable or declining population.

We let in 57,000 more immigrants in legally each week. Another one of two million enter our country illegally each year. We just increased/extended our H1-B visas by 300,000 (plus their families) last year.

By the year 2050, the population in america will be 400 million, with all of the increase due to immigration.

All these people gotta live somewhere, so construction is up, and will stay up.

These people buy chinese goods, BraZilian food, and japanese cars and tvs, so they dont help our other industries, but housing will increase.

As far as jobs go, nobody is hiring in these parts either.

[LS]

Puh-lease. Immigrants are not buying $200,000 houses. Oh, and manufacturing WAS up.

[Grampa Dave]

This is a Reuters article. Reuters's controlling owner is a rich Opecker Prince who hates America and loves Islamofacism.

Reuters added a few people to the unemployment list last month as they continue to drop like a rock in believeability!

This meter should be run with the posting of any Reuters article. Reuters makes the Ny Slimes look all most honest.

Meanwhile, Reuters is taking a beating in the business world. In February, Reuters reported a loss of $631 million, the largest in its 150-year history. In addition, Reuters announced 3,000 job cuts, along with the 3,200 jobs cut over the past two years. Reuters' market capitalization has plunged by almost 90 percent from its peak, and Reuters' stock has fallen to a 14-year low. (Reuters posts record loss, to cut jobs News provider to cut 3,000 workers as part of turnaround plan , Link to how the Reuters lies and BS hits Reuters's bottom line)

Apparently Reuters' dwindling credibility as a media provider is now affecting their bottom line. May Reuters go broke and slide into the Irrelevant Cesspool!

[waterstraat]

Puh-lease. Immigrants are not buying $200,000 houses. Oh, and manufacturing WAS up

You are right. The immigrants on H1-B visas, are buying $300,000(and up) homes!!!

Look up their salaries on the H1-b visa site. It lists the companies, the cities, and their salaries of everyone on H1-b visa status. They make some pretty big bucks, the tecknical ones anyways, same thing for the regular immigrants that come here from asia, and india, they all have high paying jobs.

The illegals, for the most part, live in very cheap houseing though, or government subsidized federal or state housing.

[FITZ]

Yes ---I think we can assume more Chinese and Indian programmers are being employed ---and in a global economy that's a good thing because they'll work for cheaper. More Americans and Mexicans are unemployed but in a global economy that's good because those who cost more in labor shouldn't work.

[LS]

There may be some of those. But in the neighborhood I live in, I see TWO, count 'em, TWO Indian/Pakistanis out of hundreds of $200,000 homes. It ain't the immigrants.

[WRhine]

YOu are right, but you are a very small minority who wants immigration to be controlled. Most people want record immigration to continue, so if most people took your advice and wrote their congressmen, it would only serve to increase our record immigration even more.

That's totally untrue. From every poll I have ever seen on immigration the American People, by a large margin, say they want immigration scaled back and reformed. You would be right if you said most of our elected officials want record immigration to continue. The sad fact is that most of our politicians on both sides of the aisle have been bought off by immigration lobbyists/PACs that have a vested interest in cheap labor and socialist votes.

Ever notice how little the media covers the crisis of illegal immigration and the problems associated with mass immigration in general? It's because this is in fact a hot button issue with most Americans and they don’t want people to get any more riled about immigration than they already are.

[lgjhn]

50% (minimum) of a pay check is taken in taxes. That's 1/2.

Yep....50% or even more in some places. I always said when it hit 50%, I was gonna quit working within the system, get on the welfare train and then work only part-time for CASH ONLY because I'm NOT going to support a system that does this to those that work so hard to do what's right.
Well, the ongoing Clinton recession and the antics of his buddies at Enron got to me first: for the first time in 25 years, I've become one of the unemployed. I've gone from a $100,000+/year to NOTHING...but thats ok because guess who else ain't getting a regular paycheck these days: The looters at the IRS, and boy, that feels sooooo GOOD......lol

[FITZ]

Immigrants are not buying $200,000 houses.

In California they must be buying houses at least that much even if they have to live 3 families to one house because they don't have cheap houses in California.

[ArneFufkin]

You're going nowhere ... fast ... disabusing these "third party" Freepers that the sky IS NOT falling. These Brigaders are losers, period. Life losers.

Who in their right mind would EVER hire these dismal creeps?

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

There is no shortage of jobs in the US. Get off of your high horse and take a job with the real working people in America. Come on down here and start gutting chickens.

We've got plenty of jobs. If there were no jobs why would the illegal mexicans want to come here in the first place?

[FITZ]

"If there were no jobs why would the illegal mexicans want to come here in the first place?"


Some come to work but many come for the welfare. Also many legals come for that.

http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/borderland/20030307-84492.shtml

The population of Riddle's district is 73 percent white with an average household income of $72,104, and 719 families whose only income came from public assistance, according to the 2000 census. Chávez's El Paso district is 92 percent Hispanic with an average household income of $33,828 and 3,326 families whose only income came from public assistance, according to the census.

-----According to this not many are really coming for the great jobs, they don't make much and many live only on welfare, many work a little but also receive a lot of welfare.

[FITZ]

"The sad fact is that most of our politicians on both sides of the aisle have been bought off by immigration lobbyists/PACs that have a vested interest in cheap labor and socialist votes."

Here's some timely articles about those Socialist votes ---why cut Americans back at all if we're just going to keep importing welfare types? They're threatening revolution now if welfare gets cut at all to these new immigrants.

http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/borderland/20030307-84492.shtml

"I can tell you there will be a massive crisis and a revolution on the border if doctors are forced to take a hit of 44 percent," said Border and International Affairs Chairwoman Norma Chávez, D-El Paso.

http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/borderland/20030307-84489.shtml

Lawmakers are once again asking Congress to create a Southwest Regional Border Authority whose goal would be to increase jobs, reduce poverty and improve the quality of life along the U.S. side of the Mexican border.

[Rockitz]

It won't happen until the US slides into depression. Union employees aren't hurting enough yet. They're refinancing to pull money out of their homes to live on, but within the next year or two that will run out and they'll be defaulting on their loans and running scared. I wouldn't manufacture anything in this country unless it was absolutely necessary (i.e. defense-related or shipping costs too exhorbitant). That pretty much limits us to things like rockets and toilet paper. Get real unions!

[Rockitz]

They're closing their El Segundo, CA branch out here a friend told me yesterday. She's getting laid off after over 15 years.

[valkyrieanne]

The notion that a U.S. manufacturing worker making $17 an hour should compete with a Chinese worker making $1 an hour is rediculous...unless of course we aspire to the same standard of living as the Chinese worker.

Not to mention the same political system. Chinese workers are for all practical purposes slaves, and that's the same goal for us.

[WRhine]

Here's some timely articles about those Socialist votes ---why cut Americans back at all if we're just going to keep importing welfare types? They're threatening revolution now if welfare gets cut at all to these new immigrants.

Thanks for the links FITZ. I can't say I'm surprised by the open brazenness of the Illegal Alien Contingent these days and the subversive politicos that represent them. They have been leading our elected officials around by the nose for years on end and are used to getting what they want by throwing tantrums or making threats like the above. Yep, they got our gutless politicians figured out quite well I'd say.

It’s really frightening to witness what is happening in America today.

Our government through its treasonous immigration polices appears hell bent on displacing the Citizens of this great land with endless millions of 3rd world immigrants and taxing us into oblivion to pay for their welfare.

If immigration (legal and illegal) is not brought under control soon America will become Balkanized out of existence. I would think that the disastrous state of affairs in CA would be lesson enough for all but the most dense.

[FITZ]

They have been leading our elected officials around by the nose for years on end and are used to getting what they want by throwing tantrums or making threats like the above. Yep, they got our gutless politicians figured out quite well I'd say.

Our gutless politicians will be afraid to lose the votes of the welfare class and will likely cave in and find them some more money for their welfare programs. The threat of revolution on the border is just that ---what would really happen if medicaid gets cut on the border is the Mexicans will just go to doctors and clinics on the other side where it's much cheaper to obtain health care ---and often just as free because they have Socialized medicine over there. They won't revolt. Even if they did, we could just send in the INS vans to pick them up and send them back home. Even the dual citizens can just as easily go back home.