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I used to shoot and kill my brother and friends almost every day while playing army after school. Those were the good old days, NO MORE.

We had all kinds of toy guns: cap guns, machine guns, water guns, toy pistols, etc. It was great, had a great time fooling around and playing army with our friends.

Why did the Irvington, NJ, police have to handcuff and arrest these boys for playing with "paper"!!!

Irvington, NJ, is a toilet, it borders Newark, NJ, to the north where the police have plenty to do to fight crime: murders, rapes, car thefts, stabbings, gang activity, etc., rather than arresting 8-yr.-old boys playing with paper on their school playground.

Just pick the Star ledger, search "last 14 days" and plug in Irvington http://www.nj.com/search/

1 posted on 03/06/2003 10:35:56 PM PST by Coleus
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2 posted on 03/06/2003 10:39:42 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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bttt
3 posted on 03/06/2003 10:42:22 PM PST by stands2reason
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Zero tolerance for educrats
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/695054/posts

Zero tolerance takes toll on pupils
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/682754/posts

Reinstated Student Still Not In School - (zero tolerance idiocy strikes again)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/745870/posts

Tutorial in tolerance (high school kid in Marin County)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/687118/posts
4 posted on 03/06/2003 10:52:48 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills Babies)
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the school’s resource officer for interrogation

sounds like something out of Iraq or the Soviet Union.
5 posted on 03/06/2003 10:55:17 PM PST by Husker24
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The boys were taken to the principal's office, then arrested by police for making terroristic threats. They said they were merely playing a game of cops and robbers.

It is not just the idiot school bureaucrats. What the heck were the cops thinking? Don't they have a clue? Arresting 2nd graders?

6 posted on 03/06/2003 10:56:39 PM PST by dark_lord
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Zero Tolerance = Zero Intelligence
8 posted on 03/07/2003 3:32:26 AM PST by 2nd_Amendment_Defender
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Why did the Irvington, NJ, police have to handcuff and arrest these boys for playing with paper...probably because it was folllowed by I'm going to kill you.
9 posted on 03/07/2003 3:35:13 AM PST by RWG
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11 posted on 03/07/2003 3:50:15 AM PST by csvset (Stand back, or I'll disintergrate you!)
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The boys were taken to the principal's office, then arrested by police for making terroristic threats. They said they were merely playing a game of cops and robbers.

With this stain on their records, they might not be able to get a real gun in the future. That's the plan...make "criminals" out of everyone.

"There's no way to rule innocent men..."

15 posted on 03/07/2003 5:41:21 AM PST by ActionNewsBill (Police state? What police state?)
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Some parents are starting to home school because of stupid zero-tolerance policies. They realize that they have normal, healthy kids and they don't want their lives screwed up by some idiotic school administrator. Too many stupid people have too much power to destroy too many lives.

One mother (who was a teacher) was interviewed a couple of years ago on why she homeschooled and she said something to the effect that she had a normally rebellious kid and no way was she putting him into a Florida public school.

She was smart. She probably saved her kid and herself a lot of grief.

16 posted on 03/07/2003 5:44:45 AM PST by ladylib
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School employees (Super., Prin., etc.) should be held personally liable for these incidents of insanity -- to the point where they are removed and their licenses (etc.) revoked. Members of the board (after trial/conviction) should be similarly barred from continuing in that capacity.

Board members today are not sufficiently accountable (at most they don't get re-elected, but that is no big deal, since they're not getting paid anyway). We should make board seats a paid position (increasing the number who will seek them in the first place) and not rely on those 'volunteers' we get these days to sit on the boards.
18 posted on 03/07/2003 8:42:57 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ
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Any policeman willing to follow orders and arrest an 8-year-old child for pretend play has the same mentality as the dutiful Nazi's who stuffed innocent people in the gas chambers. Our country is ripe for unimaginable horrors. Beware!
27 posted on 03/07/2003 10:55:33 AM PST by TexasRepublic
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We had all kinds of toy guns

We threw rocks at each other. (Simulated hand grenades.) Hurt when you got hit, too.

I guess by NJ standards, we should've done serious time in jail. Times have changed.

28 posted on 03/07/2003 10:56:18 AM PST by hoosierskypilot
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When I was young, we used to fold paper guns that made a 'bang' sound when you rapidly jerked it through the air.
We also played 'war' and 'bounty hunter'. (Modified cops and robbers, kinda like no blood no foul basketball without the heavy pummeling.)

Can't be kids anymore.
And a zero tolerance policy seems more of a bullystick to try and keep people in line who don't fit the will of the 'collective'. (The Zero Sense policy..)

Stuff like this makes my blood boil.
Now these kids are going to have a permanent arrest record for playing with paper.
Fools, all of them. And the kids suffer for the whims of fools.
31 posted on 03/07/2003 12:09:04 PM PST by Darksheare (<===The modern day French all have grandfathers that said "Frauleine" to their grandmothers.)
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boys were taken to the principal's office, then arrested by police for making terroristic threats. >

Are schools are being run by incompetent liberals, afraid of their own shadows. The terrible thing is they are trying to teach the kids to be afraid of their shadows too.

Help support non-government schools!!! Let our children be educated.

32 posted on 03/07/2003 12:35:20 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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This nonsense gives me a great idea.

I'll watch TV and wait for my *favorite* liberal star to appear on the screen, looking into the camera, pointing a gun, and screaming death threats. Then I'll call the police and file a criminal complaint. I'll call my lawyers and file a multi-million dollar lawsuit for emotional trauma. After all, if paper guns constitute a viable threat, so due real guns on TV.

33 posted on 03/07/2003 12:46:45 PM PST by Fudd (It is good that war is so terrible, lest we grow fond of it.)
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Gee, I guess the opening scenes to both the Toy Story movies are highly inapropriate.

Public schools - What a joke.
35 posted on 03/07/2003 1:50:37 PM PST by RobRoy (More of a green stain, really...)
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This is an assault on Liberty. The "guns" were made of paper!

I propose zero-tolerance for zero-tolerance polices.

54 posted on 03/09/2003 5:12:46 AM PST by The Toad
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ping!
55 posted on 03/09/2003 8:29:15 AM PST by Vic3O3 (Texan-to-be...at least there's CCW!)
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We used to make pistols out of modeling clay when I was in the 4th grade in 1976. We were not allowed to bring knives to school however. My dad, on the other hand, used to play (sp?) mumble-dee-peg (spelled phonetically). They would throw knives at each others feet seeing how close they could get. Times change as the world gets more corrupt. None-the-less - this school over reacted.
58 posted on 03/20/2003 10:21:19 AM PST by Frapster (*cough*)
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