Bad news in the drug war America is waging a phony war on narcotics (O'REILLY FACTOR TRANSCRIPT)

THE O'REILLY FACTOR / VIA EMAIL | 2/21/2003 | THE O'REILLY FACTOR

[MrLeRoy]

MrLeroy and Tpaine do not respond to debate.

LOL! You offer no debate, only ad hominems.

[cinFLA]

The only "antics" I can see is him having a somewhat radical opinion on the issue. As far as flaming, namecalling, etc., I find him to be no more guilty than anybody else.

Then why have they been repeatedly warned, relegated to the backroom and told by JR that there posting methods give them little credibility. There methods are those of paid spammers that are present on every open forum.

[MrLeRoy]

told by JR that there posting methods give them little credibility.

He never told me this.

[MrLeRoy]

his antics keep the thread relegated to the smokey backroom

Rubbish---I recall many marijuana threads being Backroomed before any mention of other illegal drugs was made.

[jmc813]

I thought it was a states' rights issue. What is your problem if your state legalizes hard drugs?

Lemme try to use a different example. Here in New Jersey auto insurance is regulated by the state. We also have an idiotic "no-fault" mandate. This has led to NJ having the highest auto insurance rates in the country. I certainly oppose these policies BUT find it preferable to the Federal government mandating every state's insurance laws.

[unspun]

I may or may not respond to you. I don't really advocate long tirade battles among those who are supposed to unite, especially when they are so repetitive and redundant.

Suggest these Web site, BTW:
http://www.liberty1.org
http://www.wallbuilders.com

[tpaine]

How droll. - My last post to you was a reply to your 'repetitive & redundant' #195.

[cinFLA]

Rubbish---I recall many marijuana threads being Backroomed before any mention of other illegal drugs was made

Right. We all know that these mj threads are part of the Soros "normalization" strategy.

[cinFLA]

I certainly oppose these policies BUT find it preferable to the Federal government mandating every state's insurance laws.

Then you find it preferable that even if some states enact total drug legalization the feds should keep their nose out of it. Even if it means your 'minor daughter's' boyfriend can go across the border to buy ecstasy or your 'minor daughter' could (quote to indicate no offense intended) could go across the state line for an abortion without your knowledge?

[cinFLA]

I haven't had time to look at his other posts but my impression of the libertarian position is that the government should make no laws regarding reproductive issues. How is anti-abortion a libertarian position?

[MrLeRoy]

his antics keep the thread relegated to the smokey backroom

Rubbish---I recall many marijuana threads being Backroomed before any mention of other illegal drugs was made.

Right. We all know that these mj threads are part of the Soros "normalization" strategy.

Your paranoid fantasies are irrelevant to your dubious claim that my legalize-all-drug posts are what "keep the thread relegated to the smokey backroom."

[cinFLA]

Your paranoid fantasies are irrelevant to your dubious claim that my legalize-all-drug posts are what "keep the thread relegated to the smokey backroom."

I never said such a thing. Again you are twisting and churning.

[MrLeRoy]

How is anti-abortion a libertarian position?

Visit the Libertarians For Life site: http://www.l4l.org/.

[jmc813]

Then you find it preferable that even if some states enact total drug legalization the feds should keep their nose out of it.

Yes.

Even if it means your 'minor daughter's' boyfriend can go across the border to buy ecstasy or your 'minor daughter' could (quote to indicate no offense intended) could go across the state line for an abortion without your knowledge?

The same argument could be made by a gun-grabber arguing for federal firearms laws. In fact, that is one of the main reason we have the idiotic "assault weapons" ban in effect today.

My opinion has always been that the government is no substitute for good parenting, and likewise no remedy for bad parenting. I don't have any children, but if I did, you could rest assured that the first time they were caught with drugs, they would face the wrath of God and never think about drugs again.

[jmc813]

How is anti-abortion a libertarian position?

Give me a few minutes and I will dig up a great anti-abortion article by Murray Sabrin. Sabrin ran as a Libertarian for governor here in New Jersey back in 1997, and I even voted for him, considering the alternatives were the then incumbent flaming RINO Christie Whitman, and the man who would eventually be elected years later Jim McSkeevy.

[MrLeRoy]

Your paranoid fantasies are irrelevant to your dubious claim that my legalize-all-drug posts are what "keep the thread relegated to the smokey backroom."

I never said such a thing.

Yet another of your many lies. jmc813 said, "In my idea of the ideal state, pot would be legal, harder stuff wouldn't be" and later, "Let's take MrLeroy for example. Nice guy, I enjoy reading his opinions and communicating with him"---to which you replied in post 236, "He and his kind are hurting your ability to discuss the issue as his antics keep the thread relegated to the smokey backroom."

[jmc813]

Here's the Sabrin article

[cinFLA]

From your cited site:

"The LP platform stands in favor of abortion choice even until the child is being delivered. What would you like to see done about this? I've enclosed some articles that will give you an idea of what LFL has been doing. Please make copies and circulate them as widely as possible."

Appaently Libertarians for Life hold the minority view.

[cinFLA]

You pulled up "Libertarians for Life" but you apparently have a problem when I pull up groups like:

Libertarian socialists
Libertarian communists

[jmc813]

One more quick thing about libertarianism before I leave for dinner. Many folks (myself included) are careful to distinguish themselves as "small-l libertarians". I do so becauseof major disagreements with the Libertarian Party (e.g. abortion, open borders, lack of organization to run a good campaign). So one can be a libertarian while not being a Libertarian, if you catch my drift.