Mom appeals son's expulsion from school

Greeley Tribune ^ | 3/4/03 | Jennifer Stanley

[kennyo]

Usually you have to fight to REMOVE your children from the government schools.What she really ought to do is thank the School Board profusely for saving her the trouble.Then they'd probably want to "reconsider".

[Mo1]

He was expelled for a YEAR because of a laser pointer ??

[LTCJ]

He was expelled for a YEAR because of a laser pointer ??

Relax. It was an EVIL, GUN-SHAPED laser pointer.

[wbill]

With administrators like these, I feel safer already.

[demosthenes the elder]

1. He should have had immediate detention for one week for doing something in class besides take notes or study
2. He should have been publicly spanked by the Principal for playing with a laser pointer - they are mildly dangerous in and of themselves, but for many of us older people, a little red dot showing up on our bodies explicitly means "a gun is pointed at you" - and given an additional week of detention.
3. He should have been grounded AND spanked by his parents, simply because he needs to learn that it is impolite to point anything at anyone.

However, he did not need to be suspended for a year, or be forced to go through some touchie-feelie communist indoctrination program.

[demosthenes the elder]

beer?

[Wolfie]

But it’s hard sometimes for 13-year-old boys to look ahead and think, ‘It looks like a gun and I shouldn’t play with it.’ ”

So many jokes, so little time.

[mhking]

This is the same mother that will look at the judge and say, "...he didn't mean to shoot that other child...don't send my child to jail..."

Idiot.

"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!

[The_Victor]

This is my weapon
This is my gun
This one's for shootn'
This one's for fun.

[hopespringseternal]

I can't imagine giving retards like this control of my children's education.

[kmiller1k]

I'm do not know what the rules are at this middle school, but in my local district the rules are emphatic--no laser pointers are allowed on campus and no weapons or look alikes on campus. My best guess, this young man knew the rules and about zero tolerance and still chose to bring the laser to school and then play with it in class.

Can you imagine the arrogance involved in the decision to have a gun shaped laser pointer in the current political environment? He is lucky to allowed back to his original middle school.

[Tax-chick]

But I don’t feel like school districts should be able to bully people

But what else are they for? All of compulsory schooling is bullying.

Say thank you, get the kid a library card, and sign him up for a shooting class, where he can learn some discipline. He's certainly not going to learn it in school!

[jagrmeister]

You seem to relish the idea of spanking. First, he gets spanked by the principal. Then, he gets spanked by his parents. Then, the whole neighboorhood should get to spank him assembly-line-style. Who next? The kid is 13 years old! Spanking - it's good for what ails you.

[demosthenes the elder]

Spanking (or, for children of this age, switching and belt-whipping) works wonders on the young human animal.
Humans are born with no "better angels of their natures" to which one may appeal. Humans are born with a wide ranging and multifaceted instinct for self-preservation. That instinct can be TRAINED INTO a "better angel" through careful indoctrination involving rewarding good behavior, ignoring the merely acceptable, and sternly punishing bad behavior. The twin principles of positive and negative reinforcement - surely you have heard of them at some point?
Pain, humiliation, and fear of repeated infliction of pain and humiliation are all extremely useful tools of discipline to which all intelligent mammals respond, most especially humans.
Failure to use these tools robs the adults responsible from turning the young human animal into a functional adult citizen dooms the enterprise of child-rearing to a high rate of failure.
Witness the current decline in our culture, directly linked and proportionate to the rise of the prevalence of "esteem" based child-rearing and the progressive (meant both ways) elimination of negative reinforcement disciplinary training methods.

[irishtenor]

We had a kid expelled for a year in Washington because he brought a gun to school... it was a play G.I.Joe gun about an inch long, but it was a gun!!! (At least it looked like one)

[ladylib]

I bet a lot of today's public school students won't want these people to control their children's public school education either:

http://www.educationnews.org/WHY-STUDENTS-REBEL-(26).htm

[demosthenes the elder]

gad. I think I remember hearing about this one.

[demosthenes the elder]

that's a good read.