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Man decapitated while fleeing police w/link to photos
Atlanta Journal and Constitution
Posted on 03/03/2003 10:36:48 AM PST by conservativefromGa
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To: conservativefromGa
What's that in the road? A head?
To: Calcetines
Pingie-wingie!
Heading your way!
To: conservativefromGa
wowzers! Those pics are pretty gruesome!
To: Mr_Magoo
I know I'm bad (into puns ;-). Somehow I can't help myself. (grin) Did I ever tell you about the time that my college choir group delivered a singing valentine to a lab on the 3rd floor of the Biology building? We arrived to the anticipated room which was the Anatomy morgue, and announced that we had a valentine for "Larry". Turns out "Larry" was the headless cadaver, and that the students of the class had hired us as a joke played on their teacher/graduate asst. This is a true story (happened on Feb. 14, 1981. I'll never forget it! ;-)
To: Mr_Magoo
I neglected to mention that, of all the songs in our repertoire list, the people who had hired us for that singing valentine chose "Going Out of My Head" ;-). Very apropos, wouldn't you say?!
To: Kevin Curry
Used to be your job huh? Somehow, I don't find that very surprising.
Yeah, getting shot tends to make people consider other other career choices, mouth-breather.
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posted on
03/04/2003 8:46:30 AM PST
by
Pahuanui
(When a foolish man hears about the Tao, he laughs out loud.)
To: conservativefromGa
The photos look extremely legit to me.
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posted on
03/04/2003 8:50:10 AM PST
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobin Mugatu, Zoolander)
To: Godebert
Did you bother to check the link provided in post number 62? The amount of blood in the photo with the body certainly seems to be what one would expect.Yes, I did. I would expect there to be a lot more blood and in a dissimilar pattern. More spray between the body and the head, not just coming from the body after it had landed. I can't clearly see if there is such from the photos, but it doesn't appear so.
No drip patterns? What do you call the substance seen dripping from the rail directly below the head in this photo:
Drip pattern, not drips. Look at the little drip points you see on the cross-member directly below the head. Notice how you don't see any trails on it that would indicate that they came out of the head and then hit the member and slid downwards. In this case, they appear to, somehow, have just appeared.
The height of the man's head is about the same as the height of the post above the top rail. If you look carefully you can see where the post has pushed up near one of the dreadlocks.
I did look carefully, and don't think the photo proves anything, one way or the other, thus begging the question as to why, given the distance of the fall and the weight of the body, wouldn't it be more noticable. I wasn't physically there, but my best guess is that it would be much moreso than it is depicted as.
You neglected to factor the body bouncing and or rolling after impacting with the ground from a height of nearly forty feet. I would guess that he flipped on the way down so he was almost stretched out horizontilly facing upwards when he struck the fence. The fence post penetrated at the base of the skull and the weight of the falling body pulled the face forward before separating.
I wouldn't guess that, esp. given that he didn't really far fall enough to account for serious bounce. The angles seem too convenient to me.
What line of work was it you were in?
I was a LEO in Southern California in a major metropolitan area.
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posted on
03/04/2003 9:09:31 AM PST
by
Pahuanui
(When a foolish man hears about the Tao, he laughs out loud.)
To: Pahuanui
My theory is this happened pretty much as the newspaper reported and that the photos are real. What is your theory, detective Columbo? Are you saying that the LEOs put the man's head on the fence and then carefully applied droplets of blood under the fence rail? Or are you saying that this is some sort of schoolboy prank using a halloween mask and cool-aid? Inquiring minds would like to know.
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:35:49 PM PST
by
Godebert
To: Godebert
What is your theory, detective Columbo?Nah, I never looked good in those baggy coats. The rumpled look didn't work for me.
Are you saying that the LEOs put the man's head on the fence and then carefully applied droplets of blood under the fence rail? Or are you saying that this is some sort of schoolboy prank using a halloween mask and cool-aid? Inquiring minds would like to know.
I'm saying most likely this is an Internet hoax/prank accomplished with clever use of either photoshop, decent props and/or both.
From the appearance, and especially since I've only found mention of it on the Internet, I think it's bogus. Maybe it's not; I don't think one can be completely sure based on the evidence supplied.
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:44:20 PM PST
by
Pahuanui
(When a foolish man hears about the Tao, he laughs out loud.)
To: Pahuanui
I also think it's a hoax ---maybe partly because there doesn't seem to be any kind of crowd gathered around ---which you would expect in a urban area ----I think there'd be all kinds of curious people they'd be having to push out of the way.
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:45:59 PM PST
by
FITZ
To: Semper911
I think that you've pretty well guessed the mechanics involved. The wide shot shows the fence bowed from the force of the impact.
Yuck. :p
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posted on
03/04/2003 4:57:15 PM PST
by
Redcloak
(All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
To: Pahuanui
"Drip pattern, not drips. Look at the little drip points you see on the cross-member directly below the head. Notice how you don't see any trails on it that would indicate that they came out of the head and then hit the member and slid downwards. In this case, they appear to, somehow, have just appeared."OK....at least you admit to seeing blood under the head now. Initially you stated:
"Not only is there not a 'tremendous amount' of blood below the head on the fence, there is none. No drip patterns, nothing."
Are you saying the story in the Atlanta Constitution Journal of February 16th is a hoax? Why would someone take the time to fabricate photos of an event that actually happened? I'm starting to think you just don't want to admit you were wrong.
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posted on
03/05/2003 11:15:03 AM PST
by
Godebert
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