U.S. looks increasingly to India as it explores new allies

US-INDIA FRIENDSHIP.NET ^ | February 28, 2003 | John E. Carbaugh, Jr.

[Movemout]

I think a billion people on our side might be counted as a blessing. I have found Indians to be a hard working, industrious people.

[ditchman345]

The United States and India will be great freinds in the future. Pakistan is a terrorist nation that must be stopped.They support terrorist in India and attack americans and burn our American flags.They should be stopped

[BRUCE_GERSTEN]

Oh no, you are back. The Chinese Communist net spy who loves to eat "bacon sandwiches." You Chi-coms will do anything to denigrate India, your arch-foe.

India is going to clean your Commie clock.

[SupplySider]

Which religion is more evil?

In my opinion most people in most religions are good, but it is hard to ignore that Muslims attempt to conquer by violence on all of their borders. Hindus, except for the few fanatical idiots you will find in any religion, do not do that. One of their fundamental tenents is Ahimsa, or non-violence.

Just my view, but I would not write off a billion souls as evil because they do not share my religion.

[edwin hubble]

"India has a ...large Muslim minority"

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"...Are you kidding?
Why in the world would you think anything good could possibly come from a nation filled with Muslims? "

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OK.. my point is that we are looking forward very soon to helping to establish a new government in Iraq.

We would like it to be a civil, grown-up, well-behaved government. Iraq has three major, quite different ethnic groups.

India is that model. (except that it is a real democracy, and has dozens of religions and hundreds of languages).

[keri]

Pingaling:-)

[MeekMom]

I would, on the other hand.
Man-made religions with man-made salvation is a bit over the top don't you think?

[MeekMom]

Yes, until they decide they don't want the Christians in their midst to live anymore unless they are converted.

[MeekMom]

re: post #23

requesting English translation...

[SupplySider]

I would, on the other hand. Man-made religions with man-made salvation is a bit over the top don't you think?

Well, Hindus do not believe their religion to be man-made any more than Christians do.

[lavrenti]

I don't know about that. I have very conservative Hindu friends, the kind who are ultranationalists and don't like Christian missionaries but remain tolerant of Christianity just as long as it isn't thrown in their face, or have their belief systems trashed, which is what a lot of these nuts do in the course of their so-called "witnessing".

India, through all its faults has done a much better job at promoting "tolerance" than anyone else. It comes with their religion, which has suffered greatly from Muslim invasions over the centuries.

[MeekMom]

LOL
...pretty irrelevant.

[MeekMom]

I beg you to tell me you're not serious, and that you don't take Hindu's seriously...

tidbit:

The origins of Kundalini Yoga (sometimes called Raja or roya Yoga) come from the form of Hinduism known as Kashmir Shavism. This form of yoga comes from the Kashmir region of India and the god these Hindus worship is Shiva. Shiva was the Hindu god represented in the movie "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom." Hindu depiction Of A Chakra: Wheel of spinning Energy Kundalini Yoga "the serpent power." Sanskrit kund, "to burn"; kunda, "to coil or to spiral": a concentrated field of intelligent, cosmic invisible energy absolutely vital to life; beginning in the base of the spine as a man or woman begins to evolve in their first incarnation; fed by the chakras along the spine and by the cosmic energy entering through the feet ...

...seriously now, can you really take these people "seriously"?

[SupplySider]

...pretty irrelevant.

Only if you just assume you are right going into the argument. You may be, but you will never convince anyone that way.

[MeekMom]

I'm not interested in convincing anyone that any religion that is man-made is over the top. I simply see them as transparently deceived.
Tell me, do you personally take Hindus seriously?


tidbit:


The 33 "gods of the Vedas":

They are not very popular. Although the Vedas comprise the most sacred literature of Hinduism, the divine pantheon in them is essentially ignored in daily life. Only one god important is Agni, who is both the god of fire, and the sacred fire itself. He continues to be worshipped in the daily rituals of each Hindu home. Every morning, an offering of clarified butter (ghee) and some grain cakes is shared communion-style between Agni (i.e., the fire) and the members of the household
Prajapati is the father of the gods and of the devils (asuras). Indra, the warrior god, with his band of Maruts, defeats the demons of darkness each morning so that the sun could rise. There is also the sky god Dyaus and a few goddesses, such as Aditi and Ushas.

[SupplySider]

Yes, I respect them. You, presumably as a Christian, tell me your religion comes from God and Hinduism is man-made. A Hindu will tell me his religion comes from God. Just because you are closer to me geographically and culturally, I see no reason to favor your argument. If you had been born in India you would likely be taking the other side.

Regarding the passages you quote on their beliefs, I'm sure an Indian commentator's take on some aspects of Christianity would seem equally weird to people in the East.

By the way, for all their gods, Hindus believe in one almighty God above all. They share that with Jews, Christians, and Muslims.

[katana]

You don't seem to have caught on yet so let's try again.

India is a Hindu country with both Muslim and Christian minorities. They have been fighting wars against Muslims for most of the last thousand years, under went several hundred years of a brutal Muslim occupation, are arch enemies of that part of ancient India which had a Muslim majority (it's called Pakistan), and they have no love for Islam.

Besides Pakistan, their other chief strategic enemy is China. Also, they are the largest representative democracy on Earth with a population of over 1 billion people. Poor and relatively under developed, they nonetheless are now self sufficient in food. Their colleges and universities provide much of the software development expertise used by American companies like Microsoft.

If you get the chance to speak with an Indian they might tell you that they knew all along what we are just now learning about the "religion of peace". All of this makes them natural allies of the United States.

[MeekMom]

Unbelievably silly

[MeekMom]

good grief!

[SupplySider]

Sorry, I mistakenly thought you were interested in a discussion.